Susanne, I'm doriswaggoner@juno.com The discrepancy in dates does look like a birth date and baptismal date. The place sounds right as well, since one of her sons was born in Montgomery Co. I have two separate lists of her children. Hers has four more children on it than her husband's does--that's a real mystery. I have descendant information for two of her children. Anyway, if you'll give me your email address I'll send you both lists, and would be glad to get more info on her and her family. Thanks for your help cracking open the Schermerhorns for me--they've been a brick wall for years. That's one advantage of lists like this--that someone more versed in Dutch customs would recognize an equivalence in first names. Doris ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.