Thanks Anne. That must drive people crazy! And me, being such a stickler for detail, I'm always looking to "fill in the blank." I always have this urge, when receiving a town reference, to fill in the county/parish, state/province fields in my database and I guess, from what you are saying, this may not be possible in all instances. Cathy Listowner: PAPKE-L, KUTSCHKE-L, BRASSER-L and NYDUTCH-L @Rootsweb.com Papke & Collier Genealogy Home Page http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/l/Cathleen-M-Collier/index.html#lin ks Pommernkontakte (managed by Gunthard Stuebs) http://pommernkontakte.de/index.html?sessid=902c28d2590217e7f984864cd40a4281 &mode=page&db=rc&page=welcome Grandparents are similar to a piece of string handy to have around and easily wrapped around the fingers of grandchildren. ----- Original Message ----- From: "De Zunne" <zunne@zeelandnet.nl> To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, 26 May, 2002 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCH] Maps > Dear Cathy, > > The Kingdom of The Netherlands was not formed in one gettogether, but was > shaped over the last 1000 years. In that time there were a lot of (strange) > heirarchical structures. But the structure is best compared with that of the > USA. Some provinces (Zeeland and Holland) formed a (business-)alliance > (VOC), and other provinces (which were just states on their own) joined. The > politics were very simple, just let everybody do what they like, as long it > brings profit. So for the people the formation of The Netherlands was just > that all the diffent kinds of money were thrown away and replaced by the > Dutch Guilder (like the proces of the Euro last year). > > In a province every town, city or even a settlement of five people had it's > own authority. So the mayor of Westkapelle answered directly to the > province. Later on the town got less authority and the provinces more, but > now even the provinces have almost no authority. All what can be placed > central is placed central, so the penalty of stealing an apple is the same > here as it is in Groningen. > > The most confusion comes from the names of parts of the country. Walcheren, > just a name for the former island. As Zuid Beveland is just a name for an > area, there are no exact boundaries and there is no government. On most > maps, these names are not given. > > I just got my encyclopedia of my shelf: > > "Zeeland, province of The Netherlands, 2700 square km (1055 square mile) of > which 1709 square km land (668 square mile). The province is made up of > islands. In the Roman times, Zeeland was the point of which the Romans > crossed the North Sea to the UK. > > The area south of the river Oosterschelde (runs throw Zeeland) was property > of the count of Vlaanderen who lend it to the count of Holland in 1165. In > 1296 Floris V defeated the nobles of Zeeland en Vlaanderen and Zeeland was > joined with Holland. But in 1428 Philips van Bourgondie obtained Zeeland and > it developed to a independant province. In 1577 Zeeland recognized Willem > van Oranje as viceroy. In 1814 the province Zeeland was formed as it is > today." > > The local authority is even more complicated... > > Greetings, > > Anne J. C. Simonse > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cathy Collier" <Cathyclerk@cfl.rr.com> > To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 10:34 PM > Subject: Re: [NYDUTCH] Maps > > > > Anne, thank for sending this in. I have a great degree of problem > > ascertaining what is where in Zeeland. I haven't looked this site over > fully > > yet, but I hope that it will tell us not onlythe name of the towns, but > the > > areas that they were/are in. > > > > Does this site or can you give us the heirarchical geo-political > structures > > for the Netherlands? (i.e. City/Town, Parish, County, State/Province as > > applies) Is there a website that addresses this totally? > > > > Thanks!! > > > > Cathy > > > > Listowner: PAPKE-L, KUTSCHKE-L, BRASSER-L and NYDUTCH-L @Rootsweb.com > > Papke & Collier Genealogy Home Page > > > http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/o/l/Cathleen-M-Collier/index.html#lin > > ks > > Pommernkontakte (managed by Gunthard Stuebs) > > > http://pommernkontakte.de/index.html?sessid=902c28d2590217e7f984864cd40a4281 > > &mode=page&db=rc&page=welcome > > > > Grandparents are similar to a piece of string handy to have around and > > easily wrapped around the fingers of grandchildren. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "De Zunne" <zunne@zeelandnet.nl> > > To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, 19 May, 2002 9:44 AM > > Subject: [NYDUTCH] Maps > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > For old maps on the internet the link > > http://www.kb.nl/kb/galerie/indexatlas.html will take you to the > Koninklijke > > Bibliotheek. They have scanned the atlas Van der Hagen and the atlas > > Beudeker. These maps are just viewable, but also downloadeble and with an > > MrSid application downloaded, you can zoom in (very high resolution!). > > > > > > Only problem is that the site is in Dutch, so: > > > > > > Bron = Source > > > Jaar = Year > > > Naam = Name > > > Gebied = Area > > > Trefwoord = Reference > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Anne J. C. Simonse > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, > > go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== NYDUTCH Mailing List ==== > > NYDUTCH-L is directed primarily toward those Dutch who emigrated > post-1800. 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