To Whom It May Concern: The name of this mailing list is misleading to NEW subscribers in that 99% of email queries are concerning those Dutch families whose ancestors arrived in NN/NY in 1600s. Apparently, the new susbcribers are not aware of the existence of DUTCH-COLONIES-L. So: I recommend the name change of the mailing list (the sooner the better): NYDUTCH-AFTER-1800. Dutch-Colonies-L (DC-L) members value knowledgeableness, accuracy, reliability, honesty, logical thinking of some members who are experts and scholars and authors of genealogy and history -- different from those who distriubute undocumented information at www.ancestry.com, www.familysearch.com, and the like. For the new subscribers who are descendants of Dutch-Colonial Families: here is how to join DC-L: 1.Click Dutch-Colonies-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com 2. Then type "SUBSCRIBE" on the body of message. Within minutes, they will confirm your membership. Then you may submit your query to Dutch-Colonies-L@rootsweb.com. If you have some problem about the subscription to DC-L, you may consult its listowner Holly Timm at mailto:htimm@cox.net Regards, Jean Boutcher "Genealogy *without* documentation is like mythology."