hi darlene, i don't have much . but my line goes ... joann vk. , robert thomas, james carpenter vk, james vk. (attorney in midland city ,mi.) , robert, simeon vk. jr. , lt. simeon peter ( founder of vankleek hill) ,peter barents,col. barent, baltus, barent baltes. any info would be great. laurence vk in uk. has given me that much info, but is busy at the moment. thanks, april