This is probably going to sound as tough as it is a stupid question and beneath the level of expertise on the list, but I must ask for input on this. With regards to the SCHOUTEN surname of families and people in New Amsterdam and Dutch Colonies - would the early Dutch, who did not use surnames as such, possible use a variation the term "schout", to make a name for themselves. Most of what I have followed in discussion on the list is about patronymic surnames. As the schout was the sheriff (and please don't get offended by this simplistic definition, as I am well aware there are dozens of translations and definitions of Schout); if one was the actual "schout" in a place, could he have adopted this for his surname when the English began to demand that everybody identify themselves by name. Are they many instances of the early Dutch (1625-1675) in New Amsterdam and on Manhattan, adopting the name of their occupation? I have just recently received a note from someone indicating they have seen the translation of SCHOUTEN as "green peas". Thanks for helpful input. Best regards, Virginia