Hi, I have been trying to prove that Nicholas Timmerman served in the militia during the Revolution. Someone on ancestry.com mentions his service,and he/she is not reachable by email. He is my gr.gr.gr. grandfather and I have the line established. Any help would be appreciated. Loraine Magee

Annatje Bisset marr. Peter DeVoor/ Devoe who was b. 1685. This is their family; George b. 1713 marr. Catharine Keller in 1735 Anna 1715 marr. John Dert in 1735 Michael 1717 marr. Elizabeth VanVleet 1740 Roeloff 1719 marr. Elizabeth Goeldin 1742 Margarite 1721 Jacob 1723 John 1726 marr. Maria Keller 1752. If you can connect to this line, I would like to hear from you, thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Mary Ann Lauree marr. George Devoe who was b. 1845. They lived in Glen Cove LI. NY. If you can connect to this family, I would like to hear from you, thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Maria Ling marr. William Devoe and had George b. 1787. If you can connect to this family, I would like to hear from you, thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Emeline Burgess marr. abraham Devoe who was b. 1821 Westchester, NY. The couple had; John b. 1839 and marr. Catharine Reed in 1870 NY Louisa 1842 marr. Capt. David Phillips in West Farms, NY Peter 1844 marr. Alice Billet Hester 1846 marr. George Fowler. If this family is in your line, I would like to hear from you, thank you, Duane D. -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Jane Doty marr. in 1755 to Frederick Devoe who was b. 1710 andthey had these children, John b. 1756 marr.his cousin Rebecca Devoe in 1779 Elanor 1758 marr. 1st. George Tippet in 1776 2nd. William Cook in 1782, then marr. William Alberson Frederick 1760 marr. Eunice Oakley Daniel 1762 marr. Mary Austin Hannah 1763 marr. John Anderson Abraham 1766 marr. Rebecca Husted in 1784 Mary 1768 marr. Hendrick Brown. I can use some help with this family, if you can connect I would like to hear from you, thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Caroline S. Ayres marr. in 1876 to William Henry Devoe who was born 1841. This couple had Charles H. born 1877 and Mary A. b. 1883. I would like to hear from you if you know what happened to this family. Thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Dear Clarice, The name "Baata" is a female name. I have seen it used in several Dutch colonial families in early New York and New Jersey. My own gut feeling is that it is Frisian and that there is no English equivalent. However, in the book "Voornamen" ["Given Names"] compiled by J. van der Schaar and published by Prisma in Utrecht in 2000, the woman's name "Baat" is listed as found in the Netherlands as early as 1381. The author says that "Baat", "Baatje" "and so forth" come from the name "Beatrix". Dorothy On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Clarice J. Phillips wrote: > Several of our family members researching VanVleet surnames would like to know abt the given name of Baata. > What does it mean, is it male or female? And what would the name be in the english language? > > Thank you..clarice@discover-net.net > > > ==== NYDUTCH Mailing List ==== > Questions, problems, or comments may be directed to the Listowner, Cathy Collier <cathyclerk@cfl.rr.com> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Baata.. Well I originally went for Barbara or Beatrice.. But I have an ancestor who chose Bathsheba, so you never know.

Several of our family members researching VanVleet surnames would like to know abt the given name of Baata. What does it mean, is it male or female? And what would the name be in the english language? Thank you..clarice@discover-net.net

Alley Martling marr. 1739 to Daniel Devoe b. 1720. They had these children; Rachel b. 1740 marr. Benjamin Archer in 1761 Daniel 1742 marr. Margaret Quackenbos (Quackenbush) 1760 Abraham 1744 Marr. Rebecca Archer Letty 1746 marr. Abel Buel 1771 John 1748 marr. 1st. Mary Buel 1771 then 2nd. Eunice Blake 1786 Margaret 1752 marr. Abraham Archer Hester 1754 marr. William Whare Peter 1756 marr. Sarah Ryer Lena Isaac 1761 marr. Philena Hunt 1779 If this is your line, I would like to hear from you, thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Does anyone have the Leavens or Hyde family?

----- Original Message ----- From: Donna DeVoe <devoe@le-win.net> To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:01 AM Subject: [NYDUTCH] Moore / Devoe > Jeannette Moore marr. 1838 in Delaware Co. to James Basley DeVoe who was b. 1819. They had: > Ira b. 1843 > Harriet Emily b. 1845 . Marr. Hamilton M. Keife > James Henry 1848 marr. Isabelle George > Jeannette 1851 marr. Adolph Margra. > If you can connect to this family, I would like to hear from you. Thank you, Duane Sorry, no connection, but thank you > -- > Donna & Duane DeVoe > Come Visit Lena, Illinois! > http://www.villageoflena.com > > > ==== NYDUTCH Mailing List ==== > Questions, problems, or comments may be directed to the Listowner, Cathy Collier <cathyclerk@cfl.rr.com> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

----- Original Message ----- From: Donna DeVoe <devoe@le-win.net> To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:31 PM Subject: [NYDUTCH] Outwater / Devoe > Lettie Outwater marr. Joseph DeVeaux b. 1759. These are their children: > John b. 1780 marr. Mary Thomas > Mary > Catharine > Henry > Joseph > aaron 1788 > Mary marr. Thomas Harris 1810 > If this is your family, I would like to hear from you, thank you, Duane > > -- > Donna & Duane DeVoe > Come Visit Lena, Illinois! > http://www.villageoflena.com > Sorry, don't think so but thank you for the info..Betty Liv.> > ==== NYDUTCH Mailing List ==== > Questions, problems, or comments may be directed to the Listowner, Cathy Collier <cathyclerk@cfl.rr.com> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Rachel DeWitt marr. 1830, to John Devoe b. 1805 Owasco, NY. These are their children; Benjamin b. 1837 marr. Sarah Moore in 1861 Brome Co. NY. Henry 1834 marr. Augusta Swartwout. Henry d. in East Union, OH. Julia 1831 marr. Thomas Clark 1852 in NY. If this your family line, I would like to hear from you, thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Lettie Outwater marr. Joseph DeVeaux b. 1759. These are their children: John b. 1780 marr. Mary Thomas Mary Catharine Henry Joseph aaron 1788 Mary marr. Thomas Harris 1810 If this is your family, I would like to hear from you, thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

Jeannette Moore marr. 1838 in Delaware Co. to James Basley DeVoe who was b. 1819. They had: Ira b. 1843 Harriet Emily b. 1845 . Marr. Hamilton M. Keife James Henry 1848 marr. Isabelle George Jeannette 1851 marr. Adolph Margra. If you can connect to this family, I would like to hear from you. Thank you, Duane -- Donna & Duane DeVoe Come Visit Lena, Illinois! http://www.villageoflena.com

This is probably going to sound as tough as it is a stupid question and beneath the level of expertise on the list, but I must ask for input on this. With regards to the SCHOUTEN surname of families and people in New Amsterdam and Dutch Colonies - would the early Dutch, who did not use surnames as such, possible use a variation the term "schout", to make a name for themselves. Most of what I have followed in discussion on the list is about patronymic surnames. As the schout was the sheriff (and please don't get offended by this simplistic definition, as I am well aware there are dozens of translations and definitions of Schout); if one was the actual "schout" in a place, could he have adopted this for his surname when the English began to demand that everybody identify themselves by name. Are they many instances of the early Dutch (1625-1675) in New Amsterdam and on Manhattan, adopting the name of their occupation? I have just recently received a note from someone indicating they have seen the translation of SCHOUTEN as "green peas". Thanks for helpful input. Best regards, Virginia

Can someone help me to locate or clarify something on the following supposed source. I have a SCHOUTEN/SCOWDEN researcher claiming that she has seen Andres Scouten listed in DAR records; he was listed from Essex NJ. He was with the "Jerseymen." and that I can find records on www.gencircle.com and from www.hollandsociety.com. Well maybe GenCircles has somebody's database tree, but I have not found any source records yet. She is pulling stuff from recollection and admits that she never wrote down the specifics. She saw this info in passing. I don't see any for the early colonial militia for NJ that is transcribed at the Holland Society web page either or anything which included something close to the name of Andres Scouten. I would appreciate if anyone would have a clue as to what body of colonial military records might exist to look for this to confirm and verify this matter of the ones called "Jerseymen", when they were organized and how I might find the muster rolls, if they exist. Thanks, Virginia Jones

RE: Dirck SchoutenI think Virginia meant for this to be posted to the list. Cathy ----- Original Message ----- From: Virginia Jones To: Cathyclerk@cfl.rr.com Sent: Friday, 07 February, 2003 1:48 PM Subject: RE: Dirck Schouten HISTORY OF SARATOGA COUNTY, NEW YORK. by NATHANIEL BARTLETT SYLVESTER 1878 -------------------- HISTORY OF THE VILLAGES AND TOWNS OF SARATOGA COUNTY. VILLAGE OF SARATOGA SPRINGS (Part 1). General Washington returned by way of the trail which led to the springs at Ballston Spa. At the springs of Ballston Spa, when General Washington was there in 1783, there was no human habitation, although Ballston township had been settled thirteen years before, a mile or two away. It was not till the year 1787 that Benajah Douglas, the pioneer of Ballston Spa, built the first rude log tavern there, and opened it for guests, just sixteen years after Dirck Schouten built the first log cabin near the High Rock in Saratoga. Yet, by the year 1794, Douglas and Low had built their large frame hotels at Ballston Spa, six years in advance of Gideon Putnam's enterprise of founding the Grand Union, at Saratoga. Those six years the start came near costing Saratoga its now proud position as the world's greatest watering-place The first white man who built a habitation at Saratoga Springs and attempted a settlement there was Dirck Schouten. He had been living on the bank of the Hudson a little above Waterford, and his object in becoming a temporary resident at the wilderness was to open a trade with the Indians who congregated there every summer in great numbers. So in the year 1771 this pioneer settler, Dirck Schouten, came to the springs to chop his small clearing, to plant a few potatoes, and build his humble cabin on the bluff a little west of the High Rock spring. Schouten's route to the springs was from the Hudson to the east side of Saratoga lake, thence across the lake in a bark canoe to the mouth of the Kay-ad-ros-se-ra river; thence up the river two miles to an Indian trail that led to the Springs. The way to the springs is much plainer nowadays than it was a hundred and seven years ago. The only white person whose name we know who visited the High Rock spring while Schouten was there was William Bousman. Bousman was then a boy twelve years old, whose Father the same year had settled near the south end of Saratoga lake. This lad came with Schouten to help him build his cabin, to make a little clearing, and to plant a small patch of potatoes. Schouten remained there a part of the time, till the summer of 1773, when he quarreled with the Indians, and they drove him away. {See "Mineral Waters," by Reuben Sears, page 89.} In the next summer, that of 1774, John Arnold, from Rhode Island, with his young family, tried his fortunes at Saratoga Springs. {See "Steele's Analysis," 2d edition, p. 28.} He provided himself with a few articles suitable for the Indian trade, mostly spirituous liquors, and with these and a few household goods, took the route followed by Schouten three years before to High Rock spring. Upon his arrival Arnold took possession of Schouten's deserted cabin, and, making some improvements, opened a kind of rude tavern for the visitors of the springs. FIRST PERMANENT SETTLER. Arnold kept his little forest tavern for two summers, and was succeeded by Samuel Norton. Both Schouten and Arnold had remained only during the summers at the springs. Upon the approach of winter they had shut up their house and gone over to the settlement on the east side of the lake. But Samuel Norton came to stay through the year, and he therefore was the first permanent settler of Saratoga Springs. Norton, before he came, had permission in writing from Isaac Low to occupy and improve a farm in the vicinity of the "salt spring" at Saratoga. Norton took possession of the Schouten House in the fall of 1776, the same season Arnold left it, and continued to make improvements during the next season of 1777. But at the approach of Burgoyne's army from the north Arnold became alarmed for the safety of his family, and he removed them to a place of less danger from the aggressions of the contending parties, and for six years the springs were left without a single white inhabitant. In the fall of 1787, Gideon Morgan bought the Norton place, and the same year sold it to Alexander Bryan. Bryan became a permanent settler and remained many years. Bryan in 1787 took possession of the Schouten House, which was situate on the northwest corner of Front and Rock streets, near the site of what is now called the Empire House. On the opposite corner, on the ground now occupied by the stone house still known as the Bryan House, Bryan built another log house, which he opened for the accommodation of summer visitors. Best regards, Virginia Researching surnames: BAIR, BADER, CASSATT, DEVEREAUX, DOYLE, FIES, GALLAGHER, KENNEDY, McDONOUGH, POTTER, RYAN, SCHOUTEN, SCOUT, SHAFFER, STEPHEN, UNDERKOFFLER, WALD, WALT, WHISTLER, WHITCOMB, and ZIMMERMAN. Please visit my genealogy sites: Ø Family Tree Maker's Genealogy Site: Walt, Scout, Ryan, and McDonough Families Ø Walt Resource Center Ø Walt Family Ties