No, Libby, according to NY Dutch topic- listing. which I read when I subscribed....this list "NY Dutch" is only for those Dutch who arrived in US after the 1800's and NOT for topic of the Dutch Colonies. But thanks I have found what I needed...thanks to those who responded. Jeannette

You found it. Don't move an inch. Libby ----- Original Message ----- From: "rjknauf" <rjknauf@earthlink.net> To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:29 PM Subject: [NYDUTCH] Dutch Colony-L > Interestested in subscribing to Dutch Colony-L mailing list, but didn't find them on the RW index of lists. > > Anyone know where i can find them? > > JK > > > ==== NYDUTCH Mailing List ==== > NYDUTCH-L is directed primarily toward those Dutch who emigrated post-1800. Those wishing to also research the earlier period, 1600-1700, may join the DUTCH-COLONIES-L message list at Rootsweb. > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Interestested in subscribing to Dutch Colony-L mailing list, but didn't find them on the RW index of lists. Anyone know where i can find them? JK

Richard, I also have this John Oliver who was the 1st spouse of Tryntje Pieterse Borsboom but I haven't been able to attach him to any other Oliver family. Do you know of any other children for this couple other than their dau Margrietje b. 1706 who m. Pieter Martens Van Benthuysen? Cynthia In a message dated 01/24/2004 7:38:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, RAHayes@chartermi.net writes: << Hi Lisa, I do not have much on Olivers or Ketchums, but I would like to know more about both families. I have a John Oliver, born ca 1680, who married Tryntje Boorsboom. She was the d/o Pieter Jacobse Borsboom. I also have a Phebe Ketchum who married Nanning Visscher about 1830. She was born 7 Sep 1807 in Saratoga County, NY. Richard From the Shores of Grand Traverse Bay >>

Hi Lisa, I do not have much on Olivers or Ketchums, but I would like to know more about both families. I have a John Oliver, born ca 1680, who married Tryntje Boorsboom. She was the d/o Pieter Jacobse Borsboom. I also have a Phebe Ketchum who married Nanning Visscher about 1830. She was born 7 Sep 1807 in Saratoga County, NY. Richard From the Shores of Grand Traverse Bay

Lisa, Welcome to the NY Dutch List. For starters, I'm very curious as to how you know that 1680 is the birth year and Jun 1719 is the death date for Charles Oliver? Do you have documents with this information? Charles' will that was proven June 12, 1719 does not have a *written* date. Therefore, we cannot assume that he died in that Jun or even in that year. I haven't been able to find out much at all on this Charles, or his family. In his will, the only children mentioned are Elizabeth, Robert, George and Jane. Yet, there is a Richard Oliver who married Martha Bennews/Bennoit in the Albany RDC on 29 Oct 1734 as "Ritsert Olfert and Martha Benewe". But I can't find any connection between this Richard and Charles Oliver. This Richard and Martha had a son John bp. Albany RDC 6 Oct 1738. Is this *your* John Oliver? Regards, Cynthia In a message dated 01/23/2004 11:55:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, hattiesue33@hotmail.com writes: << Hello, I am new to the list, so thought I would post my interests. I am currently working on my connection to Charles Oliver born 1680 and died June 1719 in New York. He married Margaret Schuyler in Albany County New York. I believe my line is through John Oliver son of Richard Oliver. Later my Olivers moved to Ontario, where my Grandmother was born. Just starting to work on the New York/Dutch side, and it is a bit confusing at the moment. Samuel Oliver, son of John(Johannes)Oliver, was my GreatGreatGreat Grandfather. He married Elizabeth Ketchum, and their son Adam Henry Oliver was my Great Great Grandfather, he married Theresa Duvall. Theresa's line of the Youmans also tie into this Oliver line. Any help is appreciated, thanks... Lisa Hoskins >>

Hello, I am new to the list, so thought I would post my interests. I am currently working on my connection to Charles Oliver born 1680 and died June 1719 in New York. He married Margaret Schuyler in Albany County New York. I believe my line is through John Oliver son of Richard Oliver. Later my Olivers moved to Ontario, where my Grandmother was born. Just starting to work on the New York/Dutch side, and it is a bit confusing at the moment. Samuel Oliver, son of John(Johannes)Oliver, was my GreatGreatGreat Grandfather. He married Elizabeth Ketchum, and their son Adam Henry Oliver was my Great Great Grandfather, he married Theresa Duvall. Theresa's line of the Youmans also tie into this Oliver line. Any help is appreciated, thanks... Lisa Hoskins Oliver & Remillard Genealogy http://hattiesue33.tripod.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get a FREE online virus check for your PC here, from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

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Hi - I am a new member and would like to tell you about my NY Dutch ancestors. I hope one of you will be able to give me hints on where to search for information. My ancestor, Johann Wilhelm Hülskämper, was born in Mimmelage (a small village near Badbergen), Hannover, Germany on 5 May 1797. He moved to Monnickendam, North Holland before 1822 when he was a witness at a marriage. He married in Monnickendam on 25 May 1823 to Juliana Hoppe. She was born in Monnickendam in September 1793, the daughter of Jochem Andries Hoppe and Grietje Jacobs Wülk. I have found 2 children of Willem (as he was known in Holland) and Juliana born in Monnickendam: Jan Arend b. 6 November 1823 and Grietje b. 25 March 1825. There may have been other children born elsewhere. Both Willem's uncle, Dirk Hulskemper, and his brother, Harmen Hulskemper, were also residents of Monnickendam. Willem and his family arrived in NYC on 7 August 1845 on board the ship Angelique from Amsterdam. They were listed on the manifest as: Willem Hulskemper, 47, "Taylor", Hannover Juliana Hulskemper, his wife, 50, Netherlands Johan Arend Hulskemper, 21, "Taylor", Netherlands Dirk Hulskemper, 18, Netherlands William Hulskemper, grocer, on Grand was listed in the NYC Directories from 1849 to 1851. He was listed in the1865 Elizabeth, NJ directory as a grocer at E. First. He apparently had died after the directory had been published, because his death certificate gave his death date as 26 December 1864, Elizabeth, NJ. William's son, my ancestor, Johan Arend (aka John A.) Hulskemper, was married on 23 September 1849 to Mary Helen Brickwede. Mary Helen was born 2 December 1829 in Grönloh (a small village near Badbergen), Hannover, Germany. John A.was naturalized on 12 November 1859 in NYC and was listed in the 1860 NYC census, 17th ward, as follows: John Heulskimber, 36, tailor, Holland Mary " , 37, Germany Julia " , 9, NY, in school William " , 6, NY, in school He was in the 1863/4 NYC Directory as a cutter on First, but by 1866 he had also moved to Elizabeth, NJ. John A. and Mary Helen weren't married in Holland, but were they married in NYC or did he go back to his father's home town in Germany? They had 3 children born in NYC...where were they baptised? Does anyone know which church a Dutch immigrant living in the 17th ward would have belonged to? Karen Wolzanski

Dear Carl, Take a look at www.ons-boeregoed.nl/engli.htm It's a site about the costumes in the province Zeeland. Met Vriendelijke Groet, Anne J. C. Simonse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carl or Marie Veenstra" <cnmveenstra@cox.net> To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 4:05 AM Subject: [NYDUTCH] Dutch Women's Headdress > Hi, Listers; > I wonder if anyone has information, or knows where to get it, on the significance of the headress, or bonnets that Dutch women wore in the 18th century. > Were they indicative of Province, or marital status, or age, etc? > Thank you, > Carl W. Veenstra > > > ==== NYDUTCH Mailing List ==== > Questions, problems, or comments may be directed to the Listowner, Cathy Collier <cathyclerk@cfl.rr.com> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Hi, Listers; I wonder if anyone has information, or knows where to get it, on the significance of the headress, or bonnets that Dutch women wore in the 18th century. Were they indicative of Province, or marital status, or age, etc? Thank you, Carl W. Veenstra

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I am not sure how to introduce myself. I am new to this list. E.R. IRWIN and C. VANDECAR were the parents of Robert IRWIN, born 1858 in New York. Oral history has it that a woman in our family gave birth soon after getting off a ship. Oral history also says that we have a Dutch background. Any suggestions on how to check ship arrivals around this time? The 1860 New York census lists an Edward IRWIN and a George IRWIN living in Chautauqua, Chautauqua, New York. These may or may not be related to "my" IRWINs. George M. IRWIN (a minister, denomination unknown) performed the marriage of Robert IRWIN, born 1858, NY, and Catherine LANE, born 1856, KY. The marriage took place 14 JAN 1879 in McLean County, Illinois. I'd be most grateful for information about my IRWIN and Vandecar ancestors. Betty in Illinois --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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Hi, Jennifer. Thanks for responding to my mail. No, the name Westphal or Westphaal is not the correct one. So far I have found relatives with the following name spelling; Westplate, Wesplate, Westplaate, Westplaete, Westplat. Kind regards. Thijs Westplate ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Inskeep" <jinskee@erols.com> To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCH] Westplate > Thijs, By any chance do you mean Westphaal? Jenny > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thijs Westplate" <MM.Westplate@HCCNET.NL> > To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:22 PM > Subject: [NYDUTCH] Westplate > > > > My name is Thijs Westplate, 64 years, living in The Netherlands, since > 1960 working on our Dutch family tree. > > Have some questions about an Adrian Westplate, serving as Union soldier > during the "Civil War" > > Also some questions about a William Westplate, born on 20 October 1859, > Manhattan, New York, New York. > > Before I present all the known details, I like to find out if some one can > help me with those questions. > > Thanks in advance. > > Thijs Westplate > > > > > > > > ==== NYDUTCH Mailing List ==== > > NYDUTCH-L is directed primarily toward those Dutch who emigrated > post-1800. Those wishing to also research the earlier period, 1600-1700, may > join the DUTCH-COLONIES-L message list at Rootsweb. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== NYDUTCH Mailing List ==== > Questions, problems, or comments may be directed to the Listowner, Cathy Collier <cathyclerk@cfl.rr.com> > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Chris. Thanks very much for your answer. Yes, I like to see if your information is a addition to the info already in my file. But,.... this is the first time I am working with this mailing list, so I like to find out how to answer your mail correctly. Do you want me to mail directly to your e-mail address or via this mailing list? Pleas tell what you prefer. Thijs. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Gina Schermerhorn" <cgscher@borg.com> To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 10:19 PM Subject: Re: [NYDUTCH] Westplate > Thijs, > > I have info on his Civil War service if you are interested. > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thijs Westplate" <MM.Westplate@HCCNET.NL> > To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:22 PM > Subject: [NYDUTCH] Westplate > > > > My name is Thijs Westplate, 64 years, living in The Netherlands, since > 1960 working on our Dutch family tree. > > Have some questions about an Adrian Westplate, serving as Union soldier > during the "Civil War" > > Also some questions about a William Westplate, born on 20 October 1859, > Manhattan, New York, New York. > > Before I present all the known details, I like to find out if some one can > help me with those questions. > > Thanks in advance. > > Thijs Westplate > > > > > > > > ==== NYDUTCH Mailing List ==== > > NYDUTCH-L is directed primarily toward those Dutch who emigrated > post-1800. Those wishing to also research the earlier period, 1600-1700, may > join the DUTCH-COLONIES-L message list at Rootsweb. > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > > > ==== NYDUTCH Mailing List ==== > NYDUTCH-L is directed primarily toward those Dutch who emigrated post-1800. Those wishing to also research the earlier period, 1600-1700, may join the DUTCH-COLONIES-L message list at Rootsweb. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

My name is Thijs Westplate, 64 years, living in The Netherlands, since 1960 working on our Dutch family tree. Have some questions about an Adrian Westplate, serving as Union soldier during the "Civil War" Also some questions about a William Westplate, born on 20 October 1859, Manhattan, New York, New York. Before I present all the known details, I like to find out if some one can help me with those questions. Thanks in advance. Thijs Westplate

Thijs, I have info on his Civil War service if you are interested. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thijs Westplate" <MM.Westplate@HCCNET.NL> To: <NYDUTCH-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2003 1:22 PM Subject: [NYDUTCH] Westplate > My name is Thijs Westplate, 64 years, living in The Netherlands, since 1960 working on our Dutch family tree. > Have some questions about an Adrian Westplate, serving as Union soldier during the "Civil War" > Also some questions about a William Westplate, born on 20 October 1859, Manhattan, New York, New York. > Before I present all the known details, I like to find out if some one can help me with those questions. > Thanks in advance. > Thijs Westplate > > > > ==== NYDUTCH Mailing List ==== > NYDUTCH-L is directed primarily toward those Dutch who emigrated post-1800. Those wishing to also research the earlier period, 1600-1700, may join the DUTCH-COLONIES-L message list at Rootsweb. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > >