No, my Telfords are a different line. Louise

I remember going to visit them at the MainSt. in Downsville, my Aunt Eva Signor-Hartman lived in Downsville.I spent many summers with her. Didnt Laura have a son? She married a Terry. Would love to hear more about Maude & Laura, I am still trying to find he connection. I think the Terrys , Signors & Mc Donalds had a connection. Can you help me? Thanks Doris Harriett Schultz <hschultz1@stny.rr.com> wrote: In later years these two ladies lived on Main St in Downsville. Maud/Maude was my Grandmother's niece. My Grandmother's sister, Elizabeth Rockefeller married Jacob Mc/MacDonald. From what I find in the census (tn Colchester), Laura is listed as Jake's niece. Am in the process of putting this info in my Brothers Keeper program - just nicely started I didn't know it at the time, but I am related to half the kids I went to school with at Downsville NY Harriett ----- Original Message ----- From: Doris Simpson To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] McDonald, Rose, Thompson, Forman, Flint, Houghtaling,Clark, Gay I used to know a Laura McDonald & Maude Mc Donald , they lived in Telford Hollow Downsville, Del. Co. N.Y. Any conection? Pat Watts wrote: Welcome, Renee', I'll add my families to the roll call - I am researching Mc/MacDonald's of Delaware County - my own family and any others. I am very interested in the migration pattern I've been finding from Scotland to the Catskill area for a few years during the Rev war (Clavarack, Lithlingo, and other towns in that area) and finally to either Delaware County or Canada. I'm also very interested in the ships that brought our ancestors to Delaware County - first through NY, then up the Hudson on a sloop to the Catskill area, and then to Delaware County. The early families would be McDonald, Rose, Thompson, Forman, Flint, Houghtaling, Clark, and Gay. Unrelated families with parallel migration patterns who also married into these families would be Cummings, Grants, Humes, Kedzie's. Have quite a bit on some of the families, but I'm trying to find details to pull it together. Some families have me stumped. Would like to contact others researching these families. My computer crashed, so I lost many old contacts and some information. Pat Watts ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message simpsond55@sbcglobal.net Doris E. Simpson ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message simpsond55@sbcglobal.net Doris E. Simpson

Hi Everyone, It has come to my attention that several subscribers with AOL email addresses are being unsubscribed from mailing lists. Please if this has happened to you, contact me. I am currently waiting for more details in order to help you. I too had noticed several members unsubscribing, but thought that this was due to the amount of emails that have been generated within the last week - some have stated that they don't like it. : ( Anyway, please know that I have not unsubscribed anyone without their consent, you would've had to contact me directly for me to do it. Thanks for your patience and understanding in this matter. Rene' NYDelaware List Administrator

Patty, Alexander Gray and his wife Ann were born in Scotland between 1770 and 1780. Family tradition says they were from Paisley but I haven't been able to verify that. I have searched Scottish parish records for Alexander Grays born in that time frame - there are more than 100! Also have searched marriages but have found nothing conclusive. Of course, they may have been married in New York. In fact, they may have come to NY as children. That would make a relationship to Jenny Gray, m. 1780, Dutchess Co., possible but a longshot. Alexander and Ann's eldest child married Hiram Taylor (estate papers, AG 1835). Her name may have been Phebe. The Taylors (Ichabod, Luther, et al) had land adjacent to AG. Another child, Catherine, married Duncan Petrie. After Alexander's death, Ann lived in Marbletown, Ulster Co., first with the the Petries and then with James McCool. Alexander's son, George Alexander Gray (my gggrandfather) pops up in Will Co., Illinois where he married Mary Monteith in 1845. There was a Daniel Gray who came to NY in 1775 from Bredalbin, Scotland, with 3 children. Later, there was a Daniel Gray in Delaware Co. Do you have anything on Daniel? This has been a wonderful series of e-mails. Thanks for your interest! Susan

Hi Louise, my grandfather was Daniel Wesley Signor, son of David M. Signor & Elizabeth Telford. I would really like to have the information on the Telfords & would be happy to share with you.I have pictures of some of them. Doris Louise Little <Little@udel.edu> wrote: I have a considerable amount of material on Telfords, mostly from family records. John ~1760-80 and Elizabeth From Falstone; son Robert, and his son Walter m. Mary Urwin (s9ister of my grandmother) We for years had a Little Telford reunion and I have a record book from that. If you would like me to send you this geneology, I would be glad to. Louise Little ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message simpsond55@sbcglobal.net Doris E. Simpson

Fellow genealogists: As a library volunteer here in Red Feather Lakes I know how important libraries are to communities. In the past I've had wonderful genealogy feedback and help from Annie Sulger at the Ogden Free Library in Walton and plan to make a donation to help restore the library. I urge all who can to make a donation to help with this endeavor. Sandra Merritt Red Feather Lakes, Colorado

I am researching the Dingee and Tremper families from Delaware county. Tracy

Hello All . . . In addition to using the Table of Contents page of the Delaware County Website, I want to remind everyone that the Delaware County Website has a very useful search engine. There are multiple choices and combinations of choices to narrow ones search. Will recap here: Search our Site (entire website) Search Books Search Military Search Cemetery Section Search Vitals, obits, old news Search Queries ( a great way to pick up peripheral family names) Search Census Records Search Davenport, Fact and Fancy then you can choose Find ANY word Find ALL words Find EXACT phrase Information about using search engine can be found by clicking on the highlighted 'site search by pico search'. I suggest when starting to find something, start with putting in exact phrase. If that doesn't bring anything up, then go to one of the other methods. And, a final note - I do not guarantee 100% that I have all the pages coded correctly so that they turn up in one of the above categories. If anyone should find a cemetery for instance that does not come up in a search limited to 'Cemetery Section', please let me know and I will correct the situation. Thanks! J. Joyce Riedinger - joyce@dcnyhistory.org Delaware County NY Genealogy and History Site http://www.dcnyhistory.org > > >> The URL for the page the Colvin Cemetery is on is: >> >> http://www.dcnyhistory.org/a-dcem.html >> >> it is under the cemetery listings for the CETA project. That is why I >> couldn't find it, was looking under cemetery indexes.

Lori, Thanks for the reply. I had been several years since I looked at the information I had on Harry. What I have cane from his sister in law. She had said she thought he or his family came from NY. The 1920 was not available when I got the information. I looked him up tonight and found he was born in NJ but his father Wilbur P Demilt was born in NY with his parents born MI and NY and his mother Ethel D Wahl Demilt was born in NJ with her parents born NJ and NY. I don't know where in NY as I could not find them in 1900 or 1910 as Demilt, Demelt or Demett. I also tried Demill and others but no luck. Marty Bacon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lori ODea" <lori@odeafamily.com> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Roll Call Demilt > Yes, The name as been found as DeMilt, DeMelt, and DeMett. I don't know about NJ though. Mine have all been in NY so far. And I am back to 1810. They might have started in NJ but not sure about that. As for Harry, I have not run across him anywhere. > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "mbacon3" <mbacon3@cfl.rr.com> > Reply-To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com > Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 10:15:27 -0400 > > >Could Demilt be a variant spelling for Demelt? I have a Harry Demilt married > >to Loretta McMahon in NJ. He died in 1955 and I don't have much more on him > >other than they married in 1941 in NJ. > >Marty Bacon > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <joanduffy@netzero.net> > >To: <NYDELAWA@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:46 AM > >Subject: [NYDELAWA] Roll Call > > > > > >> Seeking info on Wallace and Abbie Robinson Demelt. Failed to locate them > >in the 1930 census and would like to know what happen to their sons, Stephen > >and Howard. I would appreciate any data on this marriage, if they were > >separated or pending divorce in 1920, when they were located in different > >counties and where hey were buried. Thank you for your assistance. Alan > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > >in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> From: Patty Gaddis <geneamom@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Roll Call: NORTON / FRISBIE(FRISBEE) / EDWARDS > / YEOMANS / WOOD / SECORD / LANG > From "Some Connecticut Nutmeggers Who MIgrated" by Grace Louise Knox and > Barbara B Ferris > > Phineas NORTON - bc1803 in CT, d. prob.. in Sidney, Delaware Co, > NY. Phineas m Martha __, bc 1808 in Greene Co, NY, d prlb. in Sidney, > Delaware Co, NY. In the 1850 census he was 52 and she 47 years old. (1855 > Census Delaware Co, NY) > > Maybe he was a son of Truman NORTON. At least it might be a place to start > looking. Patty, I have all of Truman's children. Chester, Grandison L., Marilla and Mary. The only Phineas I have record of is about 2 generations earlier than the one you named. I have Norton relatives in Sidney but I'm pretty sure Phineas' relationship to me is pretty tenuous. > > There are Frisbee's in the book, but you didn't give a time period. There > is no William specifically married to a Marilla NORTON. Marilla was born in 1803. Two offspring that I'm sure of, Grandison L. and David Kelly, were born in 1831 and 1828 respectively. Three other children (no dates) were Angeline, Sarah, and William. Bob

Welcome Rene! My Delaware Co. names include: Siblings - Elizabeth HOUSTON (1832 Perth, Scotland - 1892 Hamden, NY) m. Peter MCLAREN (1822, Scotland - xxxx Hamden, NY) daughter Margaret MCLAREN b. 1879 Janette/Jeanette HOUSTON - widow of a Monteith (1829 Perth, Scotland - xxxx Hamden, NY) m. Peter MCLAREN Eliz. and Janette were sisters - Eliz. died first Peter HOUSTON (1839 Perth, Scotland - xxxx Hamden, NY) m. 1862 Ellen/Helen BOAG (1837 Scotland - xxxx Hamden, NY) children: John and Emma Isabella HOUSTON (1840 Perth, Scotland - 1924 Walton or Hamden, NY) m.1869 John MCAUSLAN (? -?) (brothers Robert J. went to Nevada City, California, John stayed in Belford, England and had 9 children) ______ Cecilia HOUSTON (1856 Belford, England - 1940 Scotia, NY) m. 1878 Robert TERNENT (1850 Belford, England - 1936 Walton, NY) Cecilia was a neice of the above HOUSTONS one adopted daughter - related - Ida TERNENT (1886-1921 Walton, NY) m. 1910 Harlan J. WOOD (1886 Walton? - 1967 Walton, NY) Emma Sarah HOUSTON (1901 Alnwick, England - 1958 Hamden, NY) m. 1922 Sheldon WAKEMAN (1900 Walton, NY - 1990 Walton, NY) Emma was neice or cousin of above HOUSTONS Thank you to a great list and the fabulous Delaware Co. website. Mary L. Lamb Syracuse, NY

I have a considerable amount of material on Telfords, mostly from family records. John ~1760-80 and Elizabeth From Falstone; son Robert, and his son Walter m. Mary Urwin (s9ister of my grandmother) We for years had a Little Telford reunion and I have a record book from that. If you would like me to send you this geneology, I would be glad to. Louise Little

Well, I will let you know if I learn anything new ... I'm flying to Deposit on Friday for 10 days ...

From "Some Connecticut Nutmeggers Who MIgrated" by Grace Louise Knox and Barbara B Ferris Phineas NORTON - bc1803 in CT, d. prob.. in Sidney, Delaware Co, NY. Phineas m Martha __, bc 1808 in Greene Co, NY, d prlb. in Sidney, Delaware Co, NY. In the 1850 census he was 52 and she 47 years old. (1855 Census Delaware Co, NY) Maybe he was a son of Truman NORTON. At least it might be a place to start looking. There are Frisbee's in the book, but you didn't give a time period. There is no William specifically married to a Marilla NORTON. Patty At 02:18 PM 10/17/2006, you wrote: >Anything on descendants of Truman Norton (~1774 - ~ 1836) and his unknown >wife. they migrated >from Bristol, CT first to Meridith around 1810 and then to Roxbury. > >Anything on William Frisbie, born in CT, who married Marilla Norton, >daughter of Truman. There >are probably Schoharie county connections here. > >Any relations of Melvin Squire Edwards (1852-1913) who married Frances >Caroline Norton (East >Branch area) > >Descendants of Palmer Yeomans. > >Relations of Benjamin Wood who married Lucy Norton before 1854 (this was >probably in Sullivan >county). > >Any descendants of Thomas A. Secord (1813-1851) and (Sarah) Cordelia >Ketchum/Ketcham (1816-1900). > >Any relations of Leonard John (Johann) Lang (1873-1957). Probably in the >Hancock area and NE PA.

Dee, Do you know anything more of this Prudence E CARLEY? I have a Prudence in my file, b. 1800. I'm not sure we have her parents entered correctly as I'm showing them as Joel CARLEY and Mercy BOUTON. Joel was supposedly from CT. Prudence supposedly had a brother by the name of Brookins Miller CARLEY. We also have two different Joel's born in the same year making it hard to distinguish between them. Thanks, Patty At 01:15 PM 10/17/2006, you wrote: >Looking for Milton Bushnell ABT. 1826, Middletown Del. Co. NY married a >Prudence E. Carley, they had two children Joshene,Charles. Looking for >Smith Green 1797 married a Mary Polly Holford they had eleven >children.Charles More (Moore) married a Bridget Uknown from Ireland they >had a son Patrick that married a Bridget Scully, Alfred Whitney birth >place Dutchess Co. NY. married a Phoebe Hammond , death place Halcott >Center ,children born in Roxbury, Del. Co. NY. >Dee

You're very welcome. I hope it leads to something for you. Curious here. I just finished responding to Judy Schreiber's e-mail to me asking where Alexander Gray was. Is the Alexander Gray mentioned here the same???? Patty At 11:06 AM 10/17/2006, you wrote: >Great suggestions, Patty. I'll have another look at the indexes - >especially the mortgagor indexes. Clarence Putman has done some work >for me in the >past. I'll ask him to look into the "genealogy" of lot 235 in Stamford. >Here's what I have on Lot 235: > > >PROPERTY: north of the northeast part of the Town Brook Valley, _[1]_ >(aoldb://mail/write/template.htm#_ftn1) Town of Stamford, Delaware Co., >New York >(part of the old Hardenburgh Patent, Catskill Mountains, East Branch of the >Delaware River) by May 25, 1811 when he took out a mortgage on >his fifty-acre >farm in the northern part of lot 235._[2]_ >(aoldb://mail/write/template.htm#_ftn2) Although the mortgage is >not recorded, the southern portion of lot 235 >was sold the same day to James Brown by Peter R. Livingston (through >attorney Joseph Beers)._[3]_ >(aoldb://mail/write/template.htm#_ftn3) Alexander >Gray sold that farm in 1826. He was counted in Stamford at an unknown >location in the Federal census of 1830. In 1831 he acquired a small place >from his >neighbors Novatus and Mary Blish for whom he may have worked. In 1835 >he sold >the small place and moved to the Town of Roxbury in Delaware County. > > >____________________________________ > > (aoldb://mail/write/template.htm#_ftnref1) [1]Griffin, p. 168, states the >location of Lot no. 235. > > (aoldb://mail/write/template.htm#_ftnref2) [2]The mortgage was not > recorded >in 1811, but is mentioned in the 1826 transaction. Morgagee Index, >Delaware Co., FHC 418736. But the person taking out the mortgage is the >mortgagor. > This index is on 0831869. THE PAGE THAT WOULD COVER 1811 WAS TOO FAINT TO >READ. ASK CLARENCE PUTMAN TO LOOK AT P. 55 IN THE ORIGINAL INDEX. NOT >GABRIEL GRAY BUT ALL OTHERS. > >_[3]_ (aoldb://mail/write/template.htm#_ftnref3) Deedbook D, p. 200. >Clarence checked all Peter R. Livingston transactions in Stamford >and Roxbury. >Several but no others for lot 235. > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, we did correspond and I have about same info that you do. I was curious where Edgar's other names, children went. He was an evasive "fella". Edgar and Francis (aka Fannie) were in the same household in 1910. Fannie's mother was Edgar's housekeeper. Three of Fannie and Ed's children were adopted out. Thought maybe there was a picture of him floating about somewhere. Thanks for answering. Linda

Hi Judy, Yes, we have been conversing about the two Joel Carley's and more. Looks like we have more names in common now. The only thing I have on Jenny Gray is what you've previously sent me. In searching my database of Gray's, I did notice I have a few different Gray lines in my tree. I have an Andrew GRAY married to Ellen NN with daughter, Sarah N (Nellie) GRAY, b. 1840 in Castine, ME. She married John PAGE of MA. Per another researcher, her death certificate states she was born in Castine, but Gray's of Castine do not recognize the names. John PAGE and Sarah GRAY had a daughter, Amy, b. 1867 in Boston, MA. Amy married Nicolas RODEMS in 1888 in Springfield, IL. That is where most of my lines are in IL. But, my husband's lines (Delaware Co included) were in Morgan Co. I also have a Lucie Mae GRAY who married Charles Raymond RODEMS, a first cousin once removed of Nicolas above. They were also in Springfield. For the CARLEY's in IL, my Elnora Marinda CARLEY, b. 1847 in NY and found in Tompkins Co census, was married to Lucas GADDIS in Knox Co, IL in 1867. I believe I have a copy of their wedding photo. They later lived in Bureau Co, IL through 1880. Although, she is buried in Knox Co in 1882. Her father, James Van Rensaleer CARLEY migrated to IL in 1850 with the family. Now for the MERWIN/MERVIN's. I have a Margaret MERWIN, b. 1803 in Ireland. She married Patrick SALMON in IL in 1853 and dies in Springfield, IL in 1892. I thought I had some other MERWIN's, but they aren't coming up in my search. Maybe I haven't entered them yet. I don't know anything about here except this. Who is Alexander GRAY? Patty At 08:42 AM 10/17/2006, you wrote: >Patty - > >We were in touch a couple of years ago about the Gaddis line and I just >caught your note in the Digest about Merwins in IL - > >We had a Jenny Gray who married Johnathan Carley in Dutchess Co in >1780. They had moved their family into Sidney, Delaware Co in 1796 -- >Their eldest son Adrian had a daughter Harriet who married Jonathan Barlow >Merwin and Jonathan filed to probate Adrian's Will when he died in Caton, >Steuben, NY in 1847 as Adrian's wife was said to be insane and Adrian's >son David had gone to IL and was thus unavailable to do the Probate. > >Many other of the Carleys were also in IL by that time, or soon after and >we have never been able to decipher the roots of Jenny Gray -- > >I guess what I'm asking you is - where were your people in IL? and do you >know if Alexander Gray was ever living in Dutchess County? > >Judy

Linda ... Have we communicated before? I was chatting with someone several months ago about this line ... Ada died in the County Paupers House in Delhi and is buried in the cemetery there ... I have a list of eleven children ... but can not find the family in 1880 which would have been thee years after she and Edward Charles ... aka Charles Edward ... Edgar Charles ... and Charles Edgar ... I do find in the 1880 Census some children with the same names and ages with the family of Ezra Burrows in Deposit ... but they are listed as sons and daughters ... and no mention of adoption ... I do find Edward with Fannie his second wife in 1910 and 1930 ... but in 1920 they are living separately ... he in Walton and she in Norwich ... he with son Thomas and she with daughter Pearl and son Nelson ... but no sign of Pearl's twin sister Pauline ... I have more ... John A Aiello Los Angeles, CA

Lori, thank you for your reply and yest this is the family I am seeking info on. My contact is from the Signor side, as Abbie was named after her mother, Abigail Signor Robinson in Mar. 1855 and her mother died in that year, bef. June when the NYS census was taken. Two of my g-g-aunts married into the Signor genealogy, as Martha Ann Rundle m. Albert, the s/o John Jacob and Lucy Hotchkiss Signor while later, Elvira Rundle m. Daniel Wesley, the s/o David Miller Signor. Have been tracing the Signor line for over 15 years and hence the connection to the Demelt family. Never locate them in the 1930 census and wonder what happen to the family. Contact me at joanduffy@netzero.com and will exchange info. Alan