It is still not uncommon in the South for photos to be taken of a departed loved one. I lived in the Deep South (Alabama, North Carolina, Georgia) for almost 25 years and saw this done on many occasions.Seemed creepy at first then I guess I got used to it. Also, it is not unusual for families when they have family pictures done to have someone holding photos of their deceased loved ones. Keeping the loved one with them I guess. Michelle

Hi again, I think this should be a lesson to all to make sure that photos are identified. My wife inherited a house in Franklin and there were boxes of great old photos that had no names, dates etc. This included cabinet cards, photos of children, houses etc. They should be going to some family members but we have no clues so they'll end up in some strangers collection I guess. On 1/21/07, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: > > Really. Wow. > > I think what is really sad is the fact that these pictures meant something > to someone and now they are going to who ever, we can only hope that they > end up in a descendents home some where down the line. > > Rene' > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Tom Buffington > Date: 1/21/2007 11:12:54 AM > To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead > > Actually, if you look on EBay, these types of photos are big sellers, I've > seen them go for big money. Go figure. > > > On 1/21/07, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: > I've heard a couple of different explanations, one that the pictures were > taken because someone wasn't there and they wanted to send the picture to > them, and another because they just didn't have any pictures of that > person, > so they did it at death. > > I have to say when I saw the picture of my great uncle as a kid, I thought > how gross and I really couldn't look at it, but now as an adult, I see the > value in it. We don't have that many pictures of family from the early > 1900 > s, so even one taken at death gives a little more insight to a family that > I > never knew. > > I'm not sure how many of you looked at the sites that I sent, but there is > one picture of a young woman whose mother couldn't bear to part with her, > the picture was taken 9 days after death, she was posed sitting in a > chair. > That is what amazes me, the lengths that people went to, to have these > pictures taken. > > Rene' > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Patty Gaddis > Date: 1/20/2007 10:36:19 PM > To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead > > There is supposedly a family photo somewhere of my grandmother's sister in > the casket. Supposedly she died in childbirth and the photo is of her and > the baby. No one seems to know what happened to it any more. This was > taken in 1939 in Springfield, IL. We always thought it was taken because > my grandmother, living in California, couldn't attend the funeral. > > Patty > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Denise, thanks for trying. I would be a very "long shot". If the John below that you name were the father of Stephen J. (whom I mentioned) born Sept. 1831, John would have been age 51. Age 51 is NOT too old for the father, but the mother would probably have to be at least 10 years younger, like age 41. But I don't know any such facts at this time. However, Denise, can you tell me where Andrew & Grace (Hart) ARCHIBALD lived when those children were being born??? With that little bit of information, I might be able to "stumble" into some more pieces (facts) that might help me to know for sure whether the two ARCHIBALD men (families?) could fit together as grandfather, son and grandson. Do you think Andrew ARCHIBALD lived in New York state, Pennsylvania state, or elsewhere? Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Denise Kurkowski To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] To Denise - ARCHIBALD - REED Kay: Not sure if any connection Andrew Archibald 1745 - 1829 m. Grace Hart Children: Margaret 1777 - 1857 m. Thomas Liddle (my line) Christie 1778 - 1868 James 1778 - 1861 John 1780 - 1848 Grace 1783 - 1858 Andrew 1785 - Unk. Denise -----Original Message----- From: nydelawa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydelawa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of N & K Chestnut Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:11 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] To Denise - ARCHIBALD - REED ARCHIBALD, John W. & wife Hannah REED (no dates at this time) Their son - Stephen J. ARCHIBALD b. 29 Sep 1831 Sharon Twp., Butler Co., (OH ?) m. 10 Apr 1853 to Elizabeth SWANK b. 12 Aug 1833 (prob. same place) d. (Stephen) 2 Jun 1916 Tangent, Linn Co., OR. (Willamette Valley) Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kurkowski, Denise & Rob To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead Suzanne: In my husband's family ancestry there were several sisters (nuns), a mother superior, and a brother(SVD).We have corresponded and visited with all of the Orders and they were extremely helpful. Historical files were available; including pictures, personal profiles, special occasions, etc. We were welcomed by elders willing to reminisce with us and it has given us a greater depth of knowledge of each of these individuals. Hope this helps.Denise Kurkowski Deleware Co. Researching: JACKSON, ARCHIBALD, LIDDLE, HASTINGS, BUCKLEY > To: rtreff@stny.rr.com; nydelawa@rootsweb.com; NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:22:11 -0500> From: csebring54@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead> > Hello List> Since we are on this subject. What about mourning jewelery. My husband has a necklace that is made out of hair with a locket. It belonged to his aunt who was a nun. It was one of the few possessions she left. There are photos in the locket and we are believing this is her father and mother. I was also told you can write to the Order she belonged to and recieve information on her. Has anyone have information about this.> Thank you.> Suzanne> Researching the Hicks Coleman Sanford in Delaware County> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: rtreff@stny.rr.com> To: NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 2:46 PM> Subject: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead> > > Hi everyone,> > There has been an interesting discussion going on another list regarding> photos of the dead. Wondering ho! w ! many of you have experienced this? In my> families personal collection we have one of my grandfather's brother. He> left home and hadn't been seen until he died which was about 10-15 years> later. They wanted a picture to remember him by. This was in the 30's or> 40's> > Here are a couple of websites for those of you who are interested.> > http://ame2.asu> edu/projects/haunted/ISA%20index/book%20of%20the%20dead/book%20of%20the%20de a> %20photos.htm> > http://billblanton.com/pm.htm> > Apparently it was very common way back when.> > Rene'> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message> ________________________________________________________________________> Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free! A! OL Mail and more.> To contact list administrator send email to nydelaw a-admin@rootsweb.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Kay: Not sure if any connection Andrew Archibald 1745 - 1829 m. Grace Hart Children: Margaret 1777 - 1857 m. Thomas Liddle (my line) Christie 1778 - 1868 James 1778 - 1861 John 1780 - 1848 Grace 1783 - 1858 Andrew 1785 - Unk. Denise -----Original Message----- From: nydelawa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydelawa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of N & K Chestnut Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:11 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] To Denise - ARCHIBALD - REED ARCHIBALD, John W. & wife Hannah REED (no dates at this time) Their son - Stephen J. ARCHIBALD b. 29 Sep 1831 Sharon Twp., Butler Co., (OH ?) m. 10 Apr 1853 to Elizabeth SWANK b. 12 Aug 1833 (prob. same place) d. (Stephen) 2 Jun 1916 Tangent, Linn Co., OR. (Willamette Valley) Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kurkowski, Denise & Rob To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead Suzanne: In my husband's family ancestry there were several sisters (nuns), a mother superior, and a brother(SVD).We have corresponded and visited with all of the Orders and they were extremely helpful. Historical files were available; including pictures, personal profiles, special occasions, etc. We were welcomed by elders willing to reminisce with us and it has given us a greater depth of knowledge of each of these individuals. Hope this helps.Denise Kurkowski Deleware Co. Researching: JACKSON, ARCHIBALD, LIDDLE, HASTINGS, BUCKLEY > To: rtreff@stny.rr.com; nydelawa@rootsweb.com; NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:22:11 -0500> From: csebring54@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead> > Hello List> Since we are on this subject. What about mourning jewelery. My husband has a necklace that is made out of hair with a locket. It belonged to his aunt who was a nun. It was one of the few possessions she left. There are photos in the locket and we are believing this is her father and mother. I was also told you can write to the Order she belonged to and recieve information on her. Has anyone have information about this.> Thank you.> Suzanne> Researching the Hicks Coleman Sanford in Delaware County> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: rtreff@stny.rr.com> To: NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 2:46 PM> Subject: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead> > > Hi everyone,> > There has been an interesting discussion going on another list regarding> photos of the dead. Wondering ho! w ! many of you have experienced this? In my> families personal collection we have one of my grandfather's brother. He> left home and hadn't been seen until he died which was about 10-15 years> later. They wanted a picture to remember him by. This was in the 30's or> 40's> > Here are a couple of websites for those of you who are interested.> > http://ame2.asu> edu/projects/haunted/ISA%20index/book%20of%20the%20dead/book%20of%20the%20de a> %20photos.htm> > http://billblanton.com/pm.htm> > Apparently it was very common way back when.> > Rene'> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message> ________________________________________________________________________> Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free! A! OL Mail and more.> To contact list administrator send email to nydelaw a-admin@rootsweb.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It was a very common practice "back in the day" as my nieces and nephews say ... to take photographs of the dead ... sometimes that was the only photograph ever taken of the person ... especially children ... there was one for sale on eBay just last week ... I have seen many photographs of the dead ... some in their caskets ... some laid out on a bed ... some with family gathered around them ... before photography they even had paintings done of the dead ... again especially childen ... the New England Historical Society had an issue of their monthly magazine dedicated to this practice about a year ago ... I'll see if I can find the issue ... I have one (not very clear) of my great-great-uncle Elbert W Barton with his second wife Cora Smith ... she is laid out on the bed like she is sleeping and he is sitting in a chair beside her holding her hand ... they lived in Windsor, Broome Co, NY just west of the Delaware County Line ... John A Aiello Los Angeles, CA -----Original Message----- From: anncamp@linkny.com To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 4:23 PM Subject: [NYDELAWA] Death photos My dad's little sister died from a burst brain tumor 2 months before I was born. She was born in 1934 and died age 8 the day before her birthday in August 1942. Dad took her photo in her coffin on her 8th birthday. I never knew her, but she was always remembered and talked about at our house. There are very few pictures of her and I treasure every one, even her day after death photo, my sweet little Aunt Marbra Myers that I've always wished could have lived so I could have palled around with her. Annette Campbell To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

My dad's little sister died from a burst brain tumor 2 months before I was born. She was born in 1934 and died age 8 the day before her birthday in August 1942. Dad took her photo in her coffin on her 8th birthday. I never knew her, but she was always remembered and talked about at our house. There are very few pictures of her and I treasure every one, even her day after death photo, my sweet little Aunt Marbra Myers that I've always wished could have lived so I could have palled around with her. Annette Campbell

You're right Gary - I did not word it as well as I should have. Rene' NYDelaware List Administrator -------Original Message------- From: Gary Welch Date: 1/21/2007 4:41:47 PM To: 'Rene''; nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [NYDELAWA] Mailing List Rules The only item on the list that I have any comment on is the 6th. I prefer that replies keep enough of the thread, including who wrote what, so that I can follow it even if I missed earlier posts. I would urge everyone who receives the digest version to consider changing to the MIME format if you haven't already done so. With the MIME format, each message comes as a separate attachment which, when opened, is just as if you had received the non-digest version of the message. That way you can easily reply to that message and not have cut out other threads, change the subject line, etc. There is a separate attachment with each MIME version of the digest that lists the subjects of the attached messages but I usually just look at the attachment subjects in my email reader. The list administrator can change your subscription to the MIME format, although I haven't been able to contact the admin of several lists that I subscribe to. Some email systems (I believe AOL is one of them) do not support the MIME format. Before the change to the new email system, the MIME format was the default for the digest version. -----Original Message----- From: Rene' [mailto:rtreff@stny.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:32 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Mailing List Rules 6th - Please remember to delete the previous emails when replying especially if they do not pertain to anything - as this also uses a lot of space and is a nightmare for those of us who get digest mail.

Suzanne: In my husband's family ancestry there were several sisters (nuns), a mother superior, and a brother(SVD).We have corresponded and visited with all of the Orders and they were extremely helpful. Historical files were available; including pictures, personal profiles, special occasions, etc. We were welcomed by elders willing to reminisce with us and it has given us a greater depth of knowledge of each of these individuals. Hope this helps.Denise Kurkowski Deleware Co. Researching: JACKSON, ARCHIBALD, LIDDLE, HASTINGS, BUCKLEY > To: rtreff@stny.rr.com; nydelawa@rootsweb.com; NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:22:11 -0500> From: csebring54@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead> > Hello List> Since we are on this subject. What about mourning jewelery. My husband has a necklace that is made out of hair with a locket. It belonged to his aunt who was a nun. It was one of the few possessions she left. There are photos in the locket and we are believing this is her father and mother. I was also told you can write to the Order she belonged to and recieve information on her. Has anyone have information about this.> Thank you.> Suzanne> Researching the Hicks Coleman Sanford in Delaware County> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: rtreff@stny.rr.com> To: NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 2:46 PM> Subject: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead> > > Hi everyone,> > There has been an interesting discussion going on another list regarding> photos of the dead. Wondering how many of you have experienced this? In my> families personal collection we have one of my grandfather's brother. He> left home and hadn't been seen until he died which was about 10-15 years> later. They wanted a picture to remember him by. This was in the 30's or> 40's> > Here are a couple of websites for those of you who are interested.> > http://ame2.asu> edu/projects/haunted/ISA%20index/book%20of%20the%20dead/book%20of%20the%20dea> %20photos.htm> > http://billblanton.com/pm.htm> > Apparently it was very common way back when.> > Rene'> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message> ________________________________________________________________________> Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ARCHIBALD, John W. & wife Hannah REED (no dates at this time) Their son - Stephen J. ARCHIBALD b. 29 Sep 1831 Sharon Twp., Butler Co., (OH ?) m. 10 Apr 1853 to Elizabeth SWANK b. 12 Aug 1833 (prob. same place) d. (Stephen) 2 Jun 1916 Tangent, Linn Co., OR. (Willamette Valley) Kay C. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kurkowski, Denise & Rob To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 11:06 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead Suzanne: In my husband's family ancestry there were several sisters (nuns), a mother superior, and a brother(SVD).We have corresponded and visited with all of the Orders and they were extremely helpful. Historical files were available; including pictures, personal profiles, special occasions, etc. We were welcomed by elders willing to reminisce with us and it has given us a greater depth of knowledge of each of these individuals. Hope this helps.Denise Kurkowski Deleware Co. Researching: JACKSON, ARCHIBALD, LIDDLE, HASTINGS, BUCKLEY > To: rtreff@stny.rr.com; nydelawa@rootsweb.com; NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:22:11 -0500> From: csebring54@aol.com> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead> > Hello List> Since we are on this subject. What about mourning jewelery. My husband has a necklace that is made out of hair with a locket. It belonged to his aunt who was a nun. It was one of the few possessions she left. There are photos in the locket and we are believing this is her father and mother. I was also told you can write to the Order she belonged to and recieve information on her. Has anyone have information about this.> Thank you.> Suzanne> Researching the Hicks Coleman Sanford in Delaware County> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: rtreff@stny.rr.com> To: NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 2:46 PM> Subject: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead> > > Hi everyone,> > There has been an interesting discussion going on another list regarding> photos of the dead. Wondering how ! many of you have experienced this? In my> families personal collection we have one of my grandfather's brother. He> left home and hadn't been seen until he died which was about 10-15 years> later. They wanted a picture to remember him by. This was in the 30's or> 40's> > Here are a couple of websites for those of you who are interested.> > http://ame2.asu> edu/projects/haunted/ISA%20index/book%20of%20the%20dead/book%20of%20the%20dea> %20photos.htm> > http://billblanton.com/pm.htm> > Apparently it was very common way back when.> > Rene'> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message> ________________________________________________________________________> Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free A! OL Mail and more.> To contact list administrator send email to nydelaw a-admin@rootsweb.com> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The only item on the list that I have any comment on is the 6th. I prefer that replies keep enough of the thread, including who wrote what, so that I can follow it even if I missed earlier posts. I would urge everyone who receives the digest version to consider changing to the MIME format if you haven't already done so. With the MIME format, each message comes as a separate attachment which, when opened, is just as if you had received the non-digest version of the message. That way you can easily reply to that message and not have cut out other threads, change the subject line, etc. There is a separate attachment with each MIME version of the digest that lists the subjects of the attached messages but I usually just look at the attachment subjects in my email reader. The list administrator can change your subscription to the MIME format, although I haven't been able to contact the admin of several lists that I subscribe to. Some email systems (I believe AOL is one of them) do not support the MIME format. Before the change to the new email system, the MIME format was the default for the digest version. -----Original Message----- From: Rene' [mailto:rtreff@stny.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:32 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Mailing List Rules 6th - Please remember to delete the previous emails when replying especially if they do not pertain to anything - as this also uses a lot of space and is a nightmare for those of us who get digest mail.

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Hello List Since we are on this subject. What about mourning jewelery. My husband has a necklace that is made out of hair with a locket. It belonged to his aunt who was a nun. It was one of the few possessions she left. There are photos in the locket and we are believing this is her father and mother. I was also told you can write to the Order she belonged to and recieve information on her. Has anyone have information about this. Thank you. Suzanne Researching the Hicks Coleman Sanford in Delaware County -----Original Message----- From: rtreff@stny.rr.com To: NYDELAWA-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 20 Jan 2007 2:46 PM Subject: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead Hi everyone, There has been an interesting discussion going on another list regarding photos of the dead. Wondering how many of you have experienced this? In my families personal collection we have one of my grandfather's brother. He left home and hadn't been seen until he died which was about 10-15 years later. They wanted a picture to remember him by. This was in the 30's or 40's Here are a couple of websites for those of you who are interested. http://ame2.asu edu/projects/haunted/ISA%20index/book%20of%20the%20dead/book%20of%20the%20dea %20photos.htm http://billblanton.com/pm.htm Apparently it was very common way back when. Rene' ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Really. Wow. I think what is really sad is the fact that these pictures meant something to someone and now they are going to who ever, we can only hope that they end up in a descendents home some where down the line. Rene' -------Original Message------- From: Tom Buffington Date: 1/21/2007 11:12:54 AM To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead Actually, if you look on EBay, these types of photos are big sellers, I've seen them go for big money. Go figure. On 1/21/07, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: I've heard a couple of different explanations, one that the pictures were taken because someone wasn't there and they wanted to send the picture to them, and another because they just didn't have any pictures of that person, so they did it at death. I have to say when I saw the picture of my great uncle as a kid, I thought how gross and I really couldn't look at it, but now as an adult, I see the value in it. We don't have that many pictures of family from the early 1900 s, so even one taken at death gives a little more insight to a family that I never knew. I'm not sure how many of you looked at the sites that I sent, but there is one picture of a young woman whose mother couldn't bear to part with her, the picture was taken 9 days after death, she was posed sitting in a chair. That is what amazes me, the lengths that people went to, to have these pictures taken. Rene' -------Original Message------- From: Patty Gaddis Date: 1/20/2007 10:36:19 PM To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead There is supposedly a family photo somewhere of my grandmother's sister in the casket. Supposedly she died in childbirth and the photo is of her and the baby. No one seems to know what happened to it any more. This was taken in 1939 in Springfield, IL. We always thought it was taken because my grandmother, living in California, couldn't attend the funeral. Patty To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Actually, if you look on EBay, these types of photos are big sellers, I've seen them go for big money. Go figure. On 1/21/07, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: > > I've heard a couple of different explanations, one that the pictures were > taken because someone wasn't there and they wanted to send the picture to > them, and another because they just didn't have any pictures of that > person, > so they did it at death. > > I have to say when I saw the picture of my great uncle as a kid, I thought > how gross and I really couldn't look at it, but now as an adult, I see the > value in it. We don't have that many pictures of family from the early > 1900 > s, so even one taken at death gives a little more insight to a family that > I > never knew. > > I'm not sure how many of you looked at the sites that I sent, but there is > one picture of a young woman whose mother couldn't bear to part with her, > the picture was taken 9 days after death, she was posed sitting in a > chair. > That is what amazes me, the lengths that people went to, to have these > pictures taken. > > Rene' > > -------Original Message------- > > From: Patty Gaddis > Date: 1/20/2007 10:36:19 PM > To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead > > There is supposedly a family photo somewhere of my grandmother's sister in > the casket. Supposedly she died in childbirth and the photo is of her and > the baby. No one seems to know what happened to it any more. This was > taken in 1939 in Springfield, IL. We always thought it was taken because > my grandmother, living in California, couldn't attend the funeral. > > Patty > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't really know and it's now almost 21 years after the fact. I don't think I knew then why I did it. ----- Original Message ----- From: Rene' To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 8:59 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead Yes, I'm curious as to why you did that. Actually on the other list, there were quite a few people who said they have done it for various reasons. Rene' -------Original Message------- From: Harriett Schultz Date: 1/20/2007 7:11:33 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead I have one taken of my Aunt's Mother - hard to discern face. AND NOW you're all going to think I'm weird - I took one of my Father - not Mother or anyone else. I wonder what that means. To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes, I'm curious as to why you did that. Actually on the other list, there were quite a few people who said they have done it for various reasons. Rene' -------Original Message------- From: Harriett Schultz Date: 1/20/2007 7:11:33 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead I have one taken of my Aunt's Mother - hard to discern face. AND NOW you're all going to think I'm weird - I took one of my Father - not Mother or anyone else. I wonder what that means.

I've heard a couple of different explanations, one that the pictures were taken because someone wasn't there and they wanted to send the picture to them, and another because they just didn't have any pictures of that person, so they did it at death. I have to say when I saw the picture of my great uncle as a kid, I thought how gross and I really couldn't look at it, but now as an adult, I see the value in it. We don't have that many pictures of family from the early 1900 s, so even one taken at death gives a little more insight to a family that I never knew. I'm not sure how many of you looked at the sites that I sent, but there is one picture of a young woman whose mother couldn't bear to part with her, the picture was taken 9 days after death, she was posed sitting in a chair. That is what amazes me, the lengths that people went to, to have these pictures taken. Rene' -------Original Message------- From: Patty Gaddis Date: 1/20/2007 10:36:19 PM To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead There is supposedly a family photo somewhere of my grandmother's sister in the casket. Supposedly she died in childbirth and the photo is of her and the baby. No one seems to know what happened to it any more. This was taken in 1939 in Springfield, IL. We always thought it was taken because my grandmother, living in California, couldn't attend the funeral. Patty

There is supposedly a family photo somewhere of my grandmother's sister in the casket. Supposedly she died in childbirth and the photo is of her and the baby. No one seems to know what happened to it any more. This was taken in 1939 in Springfield, IL. We always thought it was taken because my grandmother, living in California, couldn't attend the funeral. Patty At 03:46 PM 1/20/2007, you wrote: >Hi everyone, > >There has been an interesting discussion going on another list regarding >photos of the dead. Wondering how many of you have experienced this? In my >families personal collection we have one of my grandfather's brother. He >left home and hadn't been seen until he died which was about 10-15 years >later. They wanted a picture to remember him by. This was in the 30's or >40's > >Here are a couple of websites for those of you who are interested. > >http://ame2.asu >edu/projects/haunted/ISA%20index/book%20of%20the%20dead/book%20of%20the%20dea >%20photos.htm > >http://billblanton.com/pm.htm > >Apparently it was very common way back when. > >Rene'

My aunt took photos of my grandmother after she died. I did not know this and later came across them. I was 15 years old so it was quite a shock since it did not look like her. That is the only experience I have had of anyone doing that. There have been photos of the flowers and closed casket. Judy S. -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Rene'" <rtreff@stny.rr.com> > Hi everyone, > > There has been an interesting discussion going on another list regarding > photos of the dead. Wondering how many of you have experienced this? In my > families personal collection we have one of my grandfather's brother. He > left home and hadn't been seen until he died which was about 10-15 years > later. They wanted a picture to remember him by. This was in the 30's or > 40's > > Here are a couple of websites for those of you who are interested. > > http://ame2.asu > edu/projects/haunted/ISA%20index/book%20of%20the%20dead/book%20of%20the%20dea > %20photos.htm > > http://billblanton.com/pm.htm > > Apparently it was very common way back when. > > Rene' > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

Bless you Rene. I was sure that there was a mistake and ignored it. I find it difficult to believe that all those "intelligent researchers" out there were offended. Keep up the good work. Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rene'" <rtreff@stny.rr.com> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 3:31 PM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Mailing List Rules > Hello Everyone, > > First I have to say that I'm sorry that I didn't catch the emails last > night > or this morning before things went a little too far - but I think I'm > entitled to a break every once in a while. > > 2nd - I sent an email to Annette OFF LIST telling her that she sent her > note > to the list and that I was sure it was a mistake. It was. > > 3rd - I have this list set to "reply to list", this is because I feel that > anyone replying to genealogical information that is posted from someone > will > someday benefit someone else - so I want it out in the open and on the > list. > Most of us are pretty email savvy and know how to copy and paste addresses > if you want to reply just to the poster. > > 4th - This is a family friendly list. I expect all of us to treat each > other as we would want to be treated - with respect. I do not and will > not > tolerate berating of others on this list. Doing so will cause you to be > moderated and then removed from the list. Be open to what you are > reading - > realize that people make mistakes, there isn't one person among us who > doesn > t. > > 5th - If you have a problem with the list - contact me OFF LIST. Sending > your grievance to the list unsolicited just causes more problems and > wasted > space. You can use my private email extracted from above or > nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com which is preferred. > > 6th - Please remember to delete the previous emails when replying > especially > if they do not pertain to anything - as this also uses a lot of space and > is > a nightmare for those of us who get digest mail. > > 7th - Please sign your emails either with your name, or nickname. This > way > we all get to know each other and come to know who is researching > different > surnames. > > That is all - now everyone play nice! > > Rene' > NYDelaware List Administrator > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >