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    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Photos in old house
    2. Tom Buffington
    3. Hi Gabrielle, yes, I see sopmeone has moved into the Turner Tavern but had no idea who it was. I'm pretty new to these parts, came here from NYC maybe 7 years ago when I married Jen, but I do love the history of Franklin. I believe there are old ledger books in an old floor safe in the back room, we have the combination, just need to try and actually get it open. I will add you to my mailing list and believe me I will be in touch with questions! Thanks for writing! On 1/23/07, Gabrielle Pierce <gbpierce@frontiernet.net> wrote: > > Tom, you can bend my ear about your house any day (email me privately!) I > am > just down the road from you in the next town in the Amos Bristol Tavern. I > believe Tom & Donna Briggs just bought the Turner Tavern? I've alerted > them > that as soon as possible, I want to be let loose in that place and compare > it to mine. > > ~~Gabrielle Pierce > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tom Buffington" <mhr6068@gmail.com> > To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:15 PM > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Photos in old house > > > > The Bible would never be sold, that is a part of the house. I have read > some > > of the papers but not spent a great deal of time on them. As for the > pics, > I > > will try to get some scanned and if anyone can identify a family member, > > they can have it for the cost of postage. Maybe I can also scan some of > the > > papers in the Bible and post them as time permits. I've always been > > interested in local history so reuniting a long lost family member with > > their family, even if it's only through a photo, would give me great > > pleasure. Thank you for the info on the detail of the house, it's Greek > > Revival but a Victorian porch was added and mabye the sunburst was added > > then. As for the tunnel, who knows? It is an interesting old place, lots > of > > changes and additions over the years. with large steel hooks on rings in > the > > woodwork by doorways, an antique pool table upstairs with the old style > ball > > and cues, all sorts of stuff. Sorry for tying up the pages like this, I > > enjoy talking about the place though. Tom > > On 1/22/07, John H. Beach <John_H_Beach@compuserve.com> wrote: > > > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > > > Seems like you have a gold mine for someone that would be attached to > that > > > old house. They should be archive/scanned, including the Bible family > > > pages. It might be proper to turn it over to the Franklin Library for > the > > > time being, until someone claims it. > > > > > > Many people are out there that just buy up these things for profit on > > > resales with no real connection to photos, Bibles, etc. > > > > > > These sunburst crescents are very common in old homes that are of > English > > > colonial background and also Federal architectural. They were over > front > > > doors and on sides of the house at the peeks. I am connected to the > > > Daniel > > > Beach lines who ran a tavern/inn in Franklin in the early > 1830's. This > > > old > > > inn, now a house, still stands on Rte. 357 in Bartlett Hollow. If I > am > > > correct, it also has or had sunbursts. > > > > > > The tunnel story is interesting. Maybe the Franklin Library historian > or > > > town old building's historian would know more. > > > > > > Kind regards, > > > > > > John H. Beach > > > > > > Yonkers, NY > > > > > > john_h_beach@compuserve.com > > > > > > Note: The "_" character is the underscore character, NOT a space or > dash. > > > January 22, 2007 > > > 9:47 pm > > > > > > To contact list administrator send email to > nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/23/2007 06:16:46
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Houses in Franklin
    2. Tom Buffington
    3. Hello John, yes old houses can be treasures, but when you inherit one in poor shape you sometimes have to make compromises just to get it in decent shape. This place has had several additions put on over the years, and they weren't done very well. Windows were turned into doorways and vice versa, we have one wall upstairs that doesn't even meet the wall it was supposed to, it's about half an inch shy, so they just put wallpaper up over the gap, they put a hole in the foundation downstairs to add an outside entrance to the cellar but didn't do a good job so part of the foundation is now in bad shape etc. I have a lot of respect for the families who were here before us and plan to do something with the data I have, I just need some free time. We even have a diploma from the Delaware Literary Institute, a very large affair, 24 by 30 inches roughly, framed very nicely. I will go through the basket of old photos and post them as time permits. My work schdule can be erratic. Take care and thanks again for the info. On 1/23/07, John H. Beach <John_H_Beach@compuserve.com> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > Old houses are wonderful treasurers, but too often others wish to fix them > up to best serve them to their desires and not keep them the same as they > were when they were built. Cost is a big reason and the lack of purpose. > Many New England towns dictate what can and can not be done to old houses. > > I am still trying to locate the house, if it still exists, of Richard > Beach, William Beach and Benjamin Beach. They were the brothers to Daniel > Beach. The census puts them very close to each other, but it is hard to > figure the exact street location today, but believe it was more toward > Bartlett Hollow then in the village where most of the old homes stand. > > Greek designs have a wonderful taste and the often used a full sun burst > instead of a half one. These wooden icons were placed on different > locations of the homes. Unadilla is another great place to see many types > of old house designs. One of the oldest there is the first house next to > Wattles Park on the river side of the road. It goes back to the late > 1700's > and was owned by Abijah Beach, who was reflated to the Beaches in > Franklin. > Actually this house, #314 Main St., which was once called #1 Main St. is > up for sale now. > > What ever you do with the papers and photos, at least inventory them and > give a list to the Library's historian for their cross index files so > those > researching the names held in them are noted for those looking for that > family. > > Kind regards, > > John H. Beach > > Yonkers, NY > > john_h_beach@compuserve.com > > Note: The "_" character is the underscore character, NOT a space or dash. > January 23, 2007 > 7:58 am > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/23/2007 06:13:46
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Photos in Old House
    2. Tom Buffington
    3. Thank you, the name was familiar to me also, but I didn't get a chance to check into it. Now, Jim Bradley did tell my wife there was some connection to the Underground Railroad, but who knows, half the old houses in NY probably claim to have that connection. It's interesting though, as he also claimed there was the tunnel to the old tavern diagonally across the way and the family bought the house in 1888, early enough to have people around who would have known about that sort of thing. On 1/23/07, Florence <hkemp@insight.rr.com> wrote: > > Thank you for sharing your interesting finds. The name Horace Mann > rang a bell with me, so I checked a little. He was a famous educator > and attorney, also an anti-slavery member of the U.S. House of > Representative. He was from Massachusetts and not connected to New > York in any way I could see right away. Your Horace Mann could be a > descendant, however. > > Florence from Ohio > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Tom Buffington <mhr6068@gmail.com> > > Date: January 23, 2007 12:35:12 AM EST > > To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Pictures > > Reply-To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com > > > > Hi Catherine, yes this is an interesting place. We have one of > > those very > > shallow closets in what I'm guessing was the office when the > > attorney lived > > here. (Just looked at the paperwork again, the attorneys name was > > Horace > > Mann). I never knew what it was for until I read about someone else > > having > > one and discovering it was for the old style hats, stove pipes and > > such. I'm > > still finding things here, just found some very old license plates > > that were > > used to cover holes in the floor, lots of interesting stuff about! > > > > On 1/22/07, Catherine Havemeier <catgh@msn.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Hi Tom, > >> What an interesting history! My grandmother's sister was Marion > >> Kemp. Her > >> husband, Rob, farmed in Meridale on what is now Kemp Road. She > >> had two > >> children who never married: Russel and Nell, who was a > >> teacher.Their house > >> was a beautiful Victorian on the main street of Franklin. Nell was > >> there > >> till she died in the 1940s. > >> Thanks for the reply. > >> Catherine > >> > >> > >> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa- > >> admin@rootsweb.com > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa- > > admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/23/2007 06:05:00
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Houses in Franklin
    2. DHoy
    3. I would be interested in any photos or material from the Class of 1888 at the Delaware Literary Institute. This was the graduating class of Davy Hoy of Bovina Center. David F. Hoy III Tom Buffington wrote: >Hello John, > yes old houses can be treasures, but when you inherit one in poor shape you >sometimes have to make compromises just to get it in decent shape. This >place has had several additions put on over the years, and they weren't done >very well. Windows were turned into doorways and vice versa, we have one >wall upstairs that doesn't even meet the wall it was supposed to, it's about >half an inch shy, so they just put wallpaper up over the gap, they put a >hole in the foundation downstairs to add an outside entrance to the cellar >but didn't do a good job so part of the foundation is now in bad shape etc. > I have a lot of respect for the families who were here before us and plan >to do something with the data I have, I just need some free time. We even >have a diploma from the Delaware Literary Institute, a very large affair, 24 >by 30 inches roughly, framed very nicely. I will go through the basket of >old photos and post them as time permits. My work schdule can be erratic. >Take care and thanks again for the info. > > >On 1/23/07, John H. Beach <John_H_Beach@compuserve.com> wrote: > > >>Hi Tom, >> >>Old houses are wonderful treasurers, but too often others wish to fix them >>up to best serve them to their desires and not keep them the same as they >>were when they were built. Cost is a big reason and the lack of purpose. >>Many New England towns dictate what can and can not be done to old houses. >> >>I am still trying to locate the house, if it still exists, of Richard >>Beach, William Beach and Benjamin Beach. They were the brothers to Daniel >>Beach. The census puts them very close to each other, but it is hard to >>figure the exact street location today, but believe it was more toward >>Bartlett Hollow then in the village where most of the old homes stand. >> >>Greek designs have a wonderful taste and the often used a full sun burst >>instead of a half one. These wooden icons were placed on different >>locations of the homes. Unadilla is another great place to see many types >>of old house designs. One of the oldest there is the first house next to >>Wattles Park on the river side of the road. It goes back to the late >>1700's >>and was owned by Abijah Beach, who was reflated to the Beaches in >>Franklin. >>Actually this house, #314 Main St., which was once called #1 Main St. is >>up for sale now. >> >>What ever you do with the papers and photos, at least inventory them and >>give a list to the Library's historian for their cross index files so >>those >>researching the names held in them are noted for those looking for that >>family. >> >>Kind regards, >> >>John H. Beach >> >>Yonkers, NY >> >>john_h_beach@compuserve.com >> >>Note: The "_" character is the underscore character, NOT a space or dash. >>January 23, 2007 >>7:58 am >> >>To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

    01/23/2007 04:37:57
    1. [NYDELAWA] Photos in Old House
    2. Florence
    3. Thank you for sharing your interesting finds. The name Horace Mann rang a bell with me, so I checked a little. He was a famous educator and attorney, also an anti-slavery member of the U.S. House of Representative. He was from Massachusetts and not connected to New York in any way I could see right away. Your Horace Mann could be a descendant, however. Florence from Ohio Begin forwarded message: > From: Tom Buffington <mhr6068@gmail.com> > Date: January 23, 2007 12:35:12 AM EST > To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Pictures > Reply-To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com > > Hi Catherine, yes this is an interesting place. We have one of > those very > shallow closets in what I'm guessing was the office when the > attorney lived > here. (Just looked at the paperwork again, the attorneys name was > Horace > Mann). I never knew what it was for until I read about someone else > having > one and discovering it was for the old style hats, stove pipes and > such. I'm > still finding things here, just found some very old license plates > that were > used to cover holes in the floor, lots of interesting stuff about! > > On 1/22/07, Catherine Havemeier <catgh@msn.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Tom, >> What an interesting history! My grandmother's sister was Marion >> Kemp. Her >> husband, Rob, farmed in Meridale on what is now Kemp Road. She >> had two >> children who never married: Russel and Nell, who was a >> teacher.Their house >> was a beautiful Victorian on the main street of Franklin. Nell was >> there >> till she died in the 1940s. >> Thanks for the reply. >> Catherine >> >> >> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa- >> admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa- > admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

    01/23/2007 03:15:33
    1. [NYDELAWA] Houses in Franklin
    2. John H. Beach
    3. Hi Tom, Old houses are wonderful treasurers, but too often others wish to fix them up to best serve them to their desires and not keep them the same as they were when they were built. Cost is a big reason and the lack of purpose. Many New England towns dictate what can and can not be done to old houses. I am still trying to locate the house, if it still exists, of Richard Beach, William Beach and Benjamin Beach. They were the brothers to Daniel Beach. The census puts them very close to each other, but it is hard to figure the exact street location today, but believe it was more toward Bartlett Hollow then in the village where most of the old homes stand. Greek designs have a wonderful taste and the often used a full sun burst instead of a half one. These wooden icons were placed on different locations of the homes. Unadilla is another great place to see many types of old house designs. One of the oldest there is the first house next to Wattles Park on the river side of the road. It goes back to the late 1700's and was owned by Abijah Beach, who was reflated to the Beaches in Franklin. Actually this house, #314 Main St., which was once called #1 Main St. is up for sale now. What ever you do with the papers and photos, at least inventory them and give a list to the Library's historian for their cross index files so those researching the names held in them are noted for those looking for that family. Kind regards, John H. Beach Yonkers, NY john_h_beach@compuserve.com Note: The "_" character is the underscore character, NOT a space or dash. January 23, 2007 7:58 am

    01/23/2007 01:15:38
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Photos in old house
    2. Gabrielle Pierce
    3. Tom, you can bend my ear about your house any day (email me privately!) I am just down the road from you in the next town in the Amos Bristol Tavern. I believe Tom & Donna Briggs just bought the Turner Tavern? I've alerted them that as soon as possible, I want to be let loose in that place and compare it to mine. ~~Gabrielle Pierce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Buffington" <mhr6068@gmail.com> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:15 PM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Photos in old house > The Bible would never be sold, that is a part of the house. I have read some > of the papers but not spent a great deal of time on them. As for the pics, I > will try to get some scanned and if anyone can identify a family member, > they can have it for the cost of postage. Maybe I can also scan some of the > papers in the Bible and post them as time permits. I've always been > interested in local history so reuniting a long lost family member with > their family, even if it's only through a photo, would give me great > pleasure. Thank you for the info on the detail of the house, it's Greek > Revival but a Victorian porch was added and mabye the sunburst was added > then. As for the tunnel, who knows? It is an interesting old place, lots of > changes and additions over the years. with large steel hooks on rings in the > woodwork by doorways, an antique pool table upstairs with the old style ball > and cues, all sorts of stuff. Sorry for tying up the pages like this, I > enjoy talking about the place though. Tom > On 1/22/07, John H. Beach <John_H_Beach@compuserve.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > Seems like you have a gold mine for someone that would be attached to that > > old house. They should be archive/scanned, including the Bible family > > pages. It might be proper to turn it over to the Franklin Library for the > > time being, until someone claims it. > > > > Many people are out there that just buy up these things for profit on > > resales with no real connection to photos, Bibles, etc. > > > > These sunburst crescents are very common in old homes that are of English > > colonial background and also Federal architectural. They were over front > > doors and on sides of the house at the peeks. I am connected to the > > Daniel > > Beach lines who ran a tavern/inn in Franklin in the early 1830's. This > > old > > inn, now a house, still stands on Rte. 357 in Bartlett Hollow. If I am > > correct, it also has or had sunbursts. > > > > The tunnel story is interesting. Maybe the Franklin Library historian or > > town old building's historian would know more. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > John H. Beach > > > > Yonkers, NY > > > > john_h_beach@compuserve.com > > > > Note: The "_" character is the underscore character, NOT a space or dash. > > January 22, 2007 > > 9:47 pm > > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    01/23/2007 12:33:48
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Pictures
    2. Tom Buffington
    3. Hi Catherine, yes this is an interesting place. We have one of those very shallow closets in what I'm guessing was the office when the attorney lived here. (Just looked at the paperwork again, the attorneys name was Horace Mann). I never knew what it was for until I read about someone else having one and discovering it was for the old style hats, stove pipes and such. I'm still finding things here, just found some very old license plates that were used to cover holes in the floor, lots of interesting stuff about! On 1/22/07, Catherine Havemeier <catgh@msn.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Tom, > What an interesting history! My grandmother's sister was Marion Kemp. Her > husband, Rob, farmed in Meridale on what is now Kemp Road. She had two > children who never married: Russel and Nell, who was a teacher.Their house > was a beautiful Victorian on the main street of Franklin. Nell was there > till she died in the 1940s. > Thanks for the reply. > Catherine > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/22/2007 05:35:12
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Photos in old house
    2. Tom Buffington
    3. The Bible would never be sold, that is a part of the house. I have read some of the papers but not spent a great deal of time on them. As for the pics, I will try to get some scanned and if anyone can identify a family member, they can have it for the cost of postage. Maybe I can also scan some of the papers in the Bible and post them as time permits. I've always been interested in local history so reuniting a long lost family member with their family, even if it's only through a photo, would give me great pleasure. Thank you for the info on the detail of the house, it's Greek Revival but a Victorian porch was added and mabye the sunburst was added then. As for the tunnel, who knows? It is an interesting old place, lots of changes and additions over the years. with large steel hooks on rings in the woodwork by doorways, an antique pool table upstairs with the old style ball and cues, all sorts of stuff. Sorry for tying up the pages like this, I enjoy talking about the place though. Tom On 1/22/07, John H. Beach <John_H_Beach@compuserve.com> wrote: > > Hi Tom, > > Seems like you have a gold mine for someone that would be attached to that > old house. They should be archive/scanned, including the Bible family > pages. It might be proper to turn it over to the Franklin Library for the > time being, until someone claims it. > > Many people are out there that just buy up these things for profit on > resales with no real connection to photos, Bibles, etc. > > These sunburst crescents are very common in old homes that are of English > colonial background and also Federal architectural. They were over front > doors and on sides of the house at the peeks. I am connected to the > Daniel > Beach lines who ran a tavern/inn in Franklin in the early 1830's. This > old > inn, now a house, still stands on Rte. 357 in Bartlett Hollow. If I am > correct, it also has or had sunbursts. > > The tunnel story is interesting. Maybe the Franklin Library historian or > town old building's historian would know more. > > Kind regards, > > John H. Beach > > Yonkers, NY > > john_h_beach@compuserve.com > > Note: The "_" character is the underscore character, NOT a space or dash. > January 22, 2007 > 9:47 pm > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/22/2007 04:15:38
    1. [NYDELAWA] Photos in old house
    2. John H. Beach
    3. Hi Tom, Seems like you have a gold mine for someone that would be attached to that old house. They should be archive/scanned, including the Bible family pages. It might be proper to turn it over to the Franklin Library for the time being, until someone claims it. Many people are out there that just buy up these things for profit on resales with no real connection to photos, Bibles, etc. These sunburst crescents are very common in old homes that are of English colonial background and also Federal architectural. They were over front doors and on sides of the house at the peeks. I am connected to the Daniel Beach lines who ran a tavern/inn in Franklin in the early 1830's. This old inn, now a house, still stands on Rte. 357 in Bartlett Hollow. If I am correct, it also has or had sunbursts. The tunnel story is interesting. Maybe the Franklin Library historian or town old building's historian would know more. Kind regards, John H. Beach Yonkers, NY john_h_beach@compuserve.com Note: The "_" character is the underscore character, NOT a space or dash. January 22, 2007 9:47 pm

    01/22/2007 03:35:27
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Pictures
    2. Rene'
    3. I suggest going through the bible first to see if you can get any names out of it - most likely you will be able to connect to some family even if it is distant. Another suggestion is transcribing or scanning any of the newspaper articles for the website - when you have the time of course. Now I have to add, and someone may have to correct me, but I thought that it was once talked about the underground railroad going through Franklin, but I may be 100% mistaken. I know that it went through Oneonta. Is there an historical society or historian for Franklin? They might be able to answer your question regarding the gable. Rene' -------Original Message------- From: Tom Buffington Date: 1/22/2007 2:13:07 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Pictures The house belonged to the Bradley family from around after the turn of the century. If you look in the old Franklin books you'll see listings for Bradley as a dealer in farm implements and later as a car dealer. There is an old family Bible here with geneological info in it that I would be glad to check for you as soon as time permits. I know one of the brothers, Russell Bradley, was married but I don't have any info on the wife off the top of my head. I do think she may have come from PA originally, there are/were Cab cards from Athens PA in the box. They had no children by the way. before that, I believe before that the house was owned by a family called Mann, he was an attorney. I have been meaning to do some research on the house, as Jim Bradley, who was born in the house and left it to my wife, told her that it was at one time connected to a house across the road via a tunnel, the old Turner Tavern, which was owned at one time by a relation of his. There is what looks like a sealed up opening in the basement wall on that side of the house, but it could have been anything. Also, there is an unusual feature to the house, what I describe as a sunburst or star on the front of the house, the gable end I think it's called. I've always wondered if this had any significance or was it just decorative, I've not seen one like it anyplace else. Tom

    01/22/2007 10:20:04
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Pictures
    2. Catherine Havemeier
    3. Hi Tom, What an interesting history! My grandmother's sister was Marion Kemp. Her husband, Rob, farmed in Meridale on what is now Kemp Road. She had two children who never married: Russel and Nell, who was a teacher.Their house was a beautiful Victorian on the main street of Franklin. Nell was there till she died in the 1940s. Thanks for the reply. Catherine

    01/22/2007 09:15:43
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Pictures
    2. Tom Buffington
    3. Just glanced in the old family Bible, but it's a mess, loose papers, newspaper clippings about the family etc. There is a handwritten family history I'll try to read later, have to go get the oil changed on the truck now. I'll be in touch ASAP. On 1/22/07, Linda Ogborn <landk@capital.net> wrote: > > In the pictures about the Bradley's in Franklin, if you run across a > Stephen > Bradley (b-1819) and wife Emmeline Green Bradley (b-1822) would you keep > me > in mind? > Thanks > Linda Ogborn > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/22/2007 07:34:02
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Pictures
    2. Linda Ogborn
    3. In the pictures about the Bradley's in Franklin, if you run across a Stephen Bradley (b-1819) and wife Emmeline Green Bradley (b-1822) would you keep me in mind? Thanks Linda Ogborn

    01/22/2007 07:26:25
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead
    2. Tom Buffington
    3. There are literally dozens of photos, I'd be glad to scan them a bit at a time. My main problem is time, I work for the state and end up doing a lot of mandatory OT, so free time is at a premium just now. I'll go through the one basket I have handy though and try to scan some of the better clearer ones shortly. I'm guessing I can just attach them as a file to an email. On 1/22/07, Lori ODea <lori@odeafamily.com> wrote: > > Tom, > > Do you have a scanner? If so, what about scanning the pictures and posting > them on the Delaware County website? That way everybody could see them and > maybe recognize the people. > > Also, might be able to date when the pictures might have been taken. I > know I would love to see them. I had family in Franklin about 1800's. > > Please share these with everyone. > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Tom Buffington" <mhr6068@gmail.com> > Reply-To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:03:41 -0500 > > >Hi again, I think this should be a lesson to all to make sure that photos > >are identified. My wife inherited a house in Franklin and there were > boxes > >of great old photos that had no names, dates etc. This included cabinet > >cards, photos of children, houses etc. They should be going to some > family > >members but we have no clues so they'll end up in some strangers > collection > >I guess. > > > >On 1/21/07, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: > >> > >> Really. Wow. > >> > >> I think what is really sad is the fact that these pictures meant > something > >> to someone and now they are going to who ever, we can only hope that > they > >> end up in a descendents home some where down the line. > >> > >> Rene' > >> > >> -------Original Message------- > >> > >> From: Tom Buffington > >> Date: 1/21/2007 11:12:54 AM > >> To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead > >> > >> Actually, if you look on EBay, these types of photos are big sellers, > I've > >> seen them go for big money. Go figure. > >> > >> > >> On 1/21/07, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: > >> I've heard a couple of different explanations, one that the pictures > were > >> taken because someone wasn't there and they wanted to send the picture > to > >> them, and another because they just didn't have any pictures of that > >> person, > >> so they did it at death. > >> > >> I have to say when I saw the picture of my great uncle as a kid, I > thought > >> how gross and I really couldn't look at it, but now as an adult, I see > the > >> value in it. We don't have that many pictures of family from the early > >> 1900 > >> s, so even one taken at death gives a little more insight to a family > that > >> I > >> never knew. > >> > >> I'm not sure how many of you looked at the sites that I sent, but there > is > >> one picture of a young woman whose mother couldn't bear to part with > her, > >> the picture was taken 9 days after death, she was posed sitting in a > >> chair. > >> That is what amazes me, the lengths that people went to, to have these > >> pictures taken. > >> > >> Rene' > >> > >> -------Original Message------- > >> > >> From: Patty Gaddis > >> Date: 1/20/2007 10:36:19 PM > >> To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com > >> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead > >> > >> There is supposedly a family photo somewhere of my grandmother's sister > in > >> the casket. Supposedly she died in childbirth and the photo is of her > and > >> the baby. No one seems to know what happened to it any more. This was > >> taken in 1939 in Springfield, IL. We always thought it was taken > because > >> my grandmother, living in California, couldn't attend the funeral. > >> > >> Patty > >> > >> > >> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes > >> in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/22/2007 07:12:38
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Pictures
    2. Tom Buffington
    3. The house belonged to the Bradley family from around after the turn of the century. If you look in the old Franklin books you'll see listings for Bradley as a dealer in farm implements and later as a car dealer. There is an old family Bible here with geneological info in it that I would be glad to check for you as soon as time permits. I know one of the brothers, Russell Bradley, was married but I don't have any info on the wife off the top of my head. I do think she may have come from PA originally, there are/were Cab cards from Athens PA in the box. They had no children by the way. before that, I believe before that the house was owned by a family called Mann, he was an attorney. I have been meaning to do some research on the house, as Jim Bradley, who was born in the house and left it to my wife, told her that it was at one time connected to a house across the road via a tunnel, the old Turner Tavern, which was owned at one time by a relation of his. There is what looks like a sealed up opening in the basement wall on that side of the house, but it could have been anything. Also, there is an unusual feature to the house, what I describe as a sunburst or star on the front of the house, the gable end I think it's called. I've always wondered if this had any significance or was it just decorative, I've not seen one like it anyplace else. Tom On 1/22/07, Catherine Havemeier <catgh@msn.com> wrote: > > Tom, > Do you know who the house belonged to originally? My grandmother's sister > lived in Franklin and left no living descendants. > Catherine Gibson Havemeier > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/22/2007 07:08:09
    1. [NYDELAWA] Pictures
    2. Catherine Havemeier
    3. Tom, Do you know who the house belonged to originally? My grandmother's sister lived in Franklin and left no living descendants. Catherine Gibson Havemeier

    01/22/2007 06:06:21
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead
    2. Whenever I see ID'd photos on ebay ... I try to purchase them and then tack down the descendents and reunite the picture with family ... I just recently succeeded with one just before Christmas with a photo and family in Windsor, NY ... the picture, a cabinet card, was from Deposit, NY of a small child ... turned out to be the great grandfather ... -----Original Message----- From: lori@odeafamily.com To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 2:31 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead Tom, Do you have a scanner? If so, what about scanning the pictures and posting them on the Delaware County website? That way everybody could see them and maybe recognize the people. Also, might be able to date when the pictures might have been taken. I know I would love to see them. I had family in Franklin about 1800's. Please share these with everyone. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Tom Buffington" <mhr6068@gmail.com> Reply-To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:03:41 -0500 >Hi again, I think this should be a lesson to all to make sure that photos >are identified. My wife inherited a house in Franklin and there were boxes >of great old photos that had no names, dates etc. This included cabinet >cards, photos of children, houses etc. They should be going to some family >members but we have no clues so they'll end up in some strangers collection >I guess. > >On 1/21/07, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: >> >> Really. Wow. >> >> I think what is really sad is the fact that these pictures meant something >> to someone and now they are going to who ever, we can only hope that they >> end up in a descendents home some where down the line. >> >> Rene' >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Tom Buffington >> Date: 1/21/2007 11:12:54 AM >> To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead >> >> Actually, if you look on EBay, these types of photos are big sellers, I've >> seen them go for big money. Go figure. >> >> >> On 1/21/07, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: >> I've heard a couple of different explanations, one that the pictures were >> taken because someone wasn't there and they wanted to send the picture to >> them, and another because they just didn't have any pictures of that >> person, >> so they did it at death. >> >> I have to say when I saw the picture of my great uncle as a kid, I thought >> how gross and I really couldn't look at it, but now as an adult, I see the >> value in it. We don't have that many pictures of family from the early >> 1900 >> s, so even one taken at death gives a little more insight to a family that >> I >> never knew. >> >> I'm not sure how many of you looked at the sites that I sent, but there is >> one picture of a young woman whose mother couldn't bear to part with her, >> the picture was taken 9 days after death, she was posed sitting in a >> chair. >> That is what amazes me, the lengths that people went to, to have these >> pictures taken. >> >> Rene' >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Patty Gaddis >> Date: 1/20/2007 10:36:19 PM >> To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead >> >> There is supposedly a family photo somewhere of my grandmother's sister in >> the casket. Supposedly she died in childbirth and the photo is of her and >> the baby. No one seems to know what happened to it any more. This was >> taken in 1939 in Springfield, IL. We always thought it was taken because >> my grandmother, living in California, couldn't attend the funeral. >> >> Patty >> >> >> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. 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    01/22/2007 04:15:00
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] death photos
    2. Joyce Riedinger
    3. Have noticed all the recent messages regarding death photos. We do have one posted on the Delaware website at: http://www.dcnyhistory.org/phgraygeorge.html Joyce Riedinger - joyce@dcnyhistory.org Delaware County NY Genealogy and History Site http://www.dcnyhistory.org

    01/21/2007 11:48:18
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead
    2. Lori ODea
    3. Tom, Do you have a scanner? If so, what about scanning the pictures and posting them on the Delaware County website? That way everybody could see them and maybe recognize the people. Also, might be able to date when the pictures might have been taken. I know I would love to see them. I had family in Franklin about 1800's. Please share these with everyone. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Tom Buffington" <mhr6068@gmail.com> Reply-To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:03:41 -0500 >Hi again, I think this should be a lesson to all to make sure that photos >are identified. My wife inherited a house in Franklin and there were boxes >of great old photos that had no names, dates etc. This included cabinet >cards, photos of children, houses etc. They should be going to some family >members but we have no clues so they'll end up in some strangers collection >I guess. > >On 1/21/07, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: >> >> Really. Wow. >> >> I think what is really sad is the fact that these pictures meant something >> to someone and now they are going to who ever, we can only hope that they >> end up in a descendents home some where down the line. >> >> Rene' >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Tom Buffington >> Date: 1/21/2007 11:12:54 AM >> To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead >> >> Actually, if you look on EBay, these types of photos are big sellers, I've >> seen them go for big money. Go figure. >> >> >> On 1/21/07, Rene' <rtreff@stny.rr.com> wrote: >> I've heard a couple of different explanations, one that the pictures were >> taken because someone wasn't there and they wanted to send the picture to >> them, and another because they just didn't have any pictures of that >> person, >> so they did it at death. >> >> I have to say when I saw the picture of my great uncle as a kid, I thought >> how gross and I really couldn't look at it, but now as an adult, I see the >> value in it. We don't have that many pictures of family from the early >> 1900 >> s, so even one taken at death gives a little more insight to a family that >> I >> never knew. >> >> I'm not sure how many of you looked at the sites that I sent, but there is >> one picture of a young woman whose mother couldn't bear to part with her, >> the picture was taken 9 days after death, she was posed sitting in a >> chair. >> That is what amazes me, the lengths that people went to, to have these >> pictures taken. >> >> Rene' >> >> -------Original Message------- >> >> From: Patty Gaddis >> Date: 1/20/2007 10:36:19 PM >> To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] photos of the dead >> >> There is supposedly a family photo somewhere of my grandmother's sister in >> the casket. Supposedly she died in childbirth and the photo is of her and >> the baby. No one seems to know what happened to it any more. This was >> taken in 1939 in Springfield, IL. We always thought it was taken because >> my grandmother, living in California, couldn't attend the funeral. >> >> Patty >> >> >> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/21/2007 10:31:28