I know. I was just suggesting that some of the other Scots may have passed through Ireland en route to America. They certainly did not think of themselves as Irish. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Sue Lutz" <msl48335@mindspring.com> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why Delaware County? > They would have been the Scots Irish...who came from the counties of > Northern Ireland.... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann O'Hara" <yannster@ptd.net> > To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:17 AM > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why Delaware County? > > >> There were Kilpatricks in Delaware Co. by 1800 and they certainly >> considered >> themselves Scots. However, naturalization papers at the court house say >> they came from Armagh, Northern Ireland - an indication that they had >> been >> resettled in Ireland at some point before their emigration. No idea why >> they chose Delaware Co. >> >> Ann >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <SDetweiler@aol.com> >> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why Delaware County? >> >> >>> So glad that this topic came up! My ancestor, Alexander Gray, was born >>> in >>> Scotland about 1775 and was in Stamford, Delaware County, by 1811. Why >>> did >>> the earlier Scots come? Were there land agents in NYC or even in >>> Scotland? >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************** See what's free at >>> http://www.aol.com. >>> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

The suggestions in several messages as to why Scots and Irish chose to live in Delaware County are thought provoking. I had relatives from Ireland who lived in Hancock and have no idea why. Winifred

In the case of my ancestors, Wights and Littles, they came here to Delaware County starting in the early 1810's, because one of the brothers had settled here. In general Scottish seemed to have come here because their economy was poor and many were distraught at what was happening with the Church of Scotland- too much heirarchy. Also, soldiers returning from the War of 1812 reported that there was a lot of opportunity. I think much of the preferential land along the Hudson had been already settled so they came on up to Delaware County.

In my research, I've found many, many Scottish ancestors of people here in Chenango Co. who had come directly to Del. Co. from Scotland. I've wondered why they came there and not over here or Otsego Co., and there must be a reason. There are so many of them that perhaps it was arranged back in Scotland and also perhaps there were family relationships not fully explored as yet. As for coming from Ireland, I've found at least three lines of mine who came from that area of Ireland known as where the "Ulster Scots" had settled. The Kennedys and the Edmonds were from Antrim and another family of McLaughlins came from Killalea, on the eastern peninsula of northern Ireland. My hunch is that they were Scots first and Irish second. I think they were all protestant as well, from what I can gather from the descendants. I would love to hear more on this subject ... is there anything in print in Delaware Co. literature on the Scottish settlements??? Sally Chirlin

They would have been the Scots Irish...who came from the counties of Northern Ireland.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann O'Hara" <yannster@ptd.net> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why Delaware County? > There were Kilpatricks in Delaware Co. by 1800 and they certainly > considered > themselves Scots. However, naturalization papers at the court house say > they came from Armagh, Northern Ireland - an indication that they had been > resettled in Ireland at some point before their emigration. No idea why > they chose Delaware Co. > > Ann > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <SDetweiler@aol.com> > To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:43 AM > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why Delaware County? > > >> So glad that this topic came up! My ancestor, Alexander Gray, was born >> in >> Scotland about 1775 and was in Stamford, Delaware County, by 1811. Why >> did >> the earlier Scots come? Were there land agents in NYC or even in >> Scotland? >> >> >> >> ************************************** See what's free at >> http://www.aol.com. >> To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There were Kilpatricks in Delaware Co. by 1800 and they certainly considered themselves Scots. However, naturalization papers at the court house say they came from Armagh, Northern Ireland - an indication that they had been resettled in Ireland at some point before their emigration. No idea why they chose Delaware Co. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: <SDetweiler@aol.com> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2007 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why Delaware County? > So glad that this topic came up! My ancestor, Alexander Gray, was born > in > Scotland about 1775 and was in Stamford, Delaware County, by 1811. Why > did > the earlier Scots come? Were there land agents in NYC or even in > Scotland? > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

So glad that this topic came up! My ancestor, Alexander Gray, was born in Scotland about 1775 and was in Stamford, Delaware County, by 1811. Why did the earlier Scots come? Were there land agents in NYC or even in Scotland? ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I am so sorry for the damage to your library. I visited it a few years ago looking for the Ogden family and told you of the David Ogden book telling of his capture by the Indians. He was related but not my direct line. Do you have his line in print? I can send you copy of what I have if you like. Elizabeth Cromer in Ft.Wayne IN. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I've been curious about the same thing. My Scots ancestors arrived in Del Co about 1845 from Letham in Angus. I don't know why they chose Delaware Co either. I suspect they had friends or relatives from their village already there, but no proof. Would love to hear of others experiences in this research area. Thanks. Kitti Michalowicz ---- Valerie Brown <vwbrown08@yahoo.com> wrote: ============= My ancestors came to Delaware county about 1842 and 1851 from Roxburgshire, Scotland. There are about 33 hits for "Roxburg" or "Roxburghsire" on the Delaware county web-site. Can anyone tell me what the big attraction was to Delaware county, especially Bovina, over other counties in NY state that drew so many people from one county in Scotland? Thank you. ~Valerie ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My ancestors came to Delaware county about 1842 and 1851 from Roxburgshire, Scotland. There are about 33 hits for "Roxburg" or "Roxburghsire" on the Delaware county web-site. Can anyone tell me what the big attraction was to Delaware county, especially Bovina, over other counties in NY state that drew so many people from one county in Scotland? Thank you. ~Valerie ____________________________________________________________________________________ Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC

Hello Sylvia, I found Gail's obituary in the December 28, 2004 issue of The Sullivan County Democrat (published in Callicoon, NY): Gail E. Gilmore of East Branch, a certified nurse's aide and a longtime area resident, died Friday, December 24, 2004, at the Delaware Valley Hospital in Walton. She was 54 years of age. The daughter of Frederick G. and Marjorie E. Whitcher Shutts, she was born December 9, 1950, in Olean. Mrs. Gilmore was a member of the East Branch Community Church; a member of the East Branch Water Company Board; an employee of the Roscoe Community Nursing Home; and a former Boy Scout leader. In a family statement, it was said, "Gail was a devoted and loving wife, mother and grandmother. She enjoyed her work and loved the patients she attended as if they were part of her family." She is survived by her husband, William R. Gilmore Sr., at home; two sons, William R. Gilmore Jr. of Deposit and Aaron C. Gilmore of Walton; a daughter and son-in-law, Carole Ann and Jason McGlone of East Branch; her parents of Roscoe; two sisters and brothers-in-law, Donna and Donald Kunze of Maybrook and Debbie and George Kiakis of Oneonta; a brother and sister-in-law, John and Linda Shutts of Rock Tavern; three grandchildren, Jaden, Conner and Zoey; and several nieces and nephews. Funeral services will be held at 11 a.m. on Tuesday at the East Branch Community Church with the Rev. Paul Cicio officiating. Burial will be made in the East Branch Cemetery. Memorial contributions may be made to the Peace Plantation Animal Sanctuary, St. Rte. 206, Loomis Brook, Walton, N.Y. 13856 or to the East Branch Community Church, East Branch, N.Y. 13756. Funeral arrangement were made by the Harris Funeral Home in Roscoe. The flood in Colchester was just devastating. I'm so sorry about the loss of Fred and Marjorie. Sincerely, Vivian Piper Sylvia Ackerson wrote: >I'm sorry, it should be Gilmore instead of Gilbert. I apologize for >the mistake. > >Hello, > >I wonder if anyone knew Gail Shutts Gilbert? She is a distant cousin >and her parents, Fred and Marjorie were recently victims of the flood >in Colchester. Gail died on Dec 24, 2004 and I'm trying to find an >obituarty. Her last residence or where she died was East Branch, >Delaware Co, NY. > >Sylvia (Chichester) Ackerson >nyamom@atmc.net > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

I am looking for info on Jesse Sawyer and his son Harmon. The Delaware county History says, the came to Delaware County before 1800. What I need is proof of the children of Jesse and also the children of Harmon. Thanks for all and any help. Marilyn

I understand now. The ones I'm seeing for free are in the archives of the The Daily Star. Not on legacy.com The ones from April 2006 backwards to July 1998 are in the Star's archives for free. That's a bummer! I'm guessing that the fee is only $2.95 so that's not bad if you don't have a lot of them and one is really important. Sylvia At 07:46 PM 6/26/2007 -0400, Rene' wrote: >Yes, but those after April 3, 2006 are going to legacy.com. Only >those within so many months of today's date are free on legacy - >those further back there is a fee to view them. > >I'm going over them now. Take a look at Ida A. Faoro, the obit was >posted on 6/12/2006, there is a fee to view. > >Rene' > >-------Original Message------- > >From: <mailto:nyamom@atmc.net>Sylvia Ackerson >Date: 6/26/2007 7:01:59 PM >To: ><mailto:rtreff@stny.rr.com>Rene'; ><mailto:nydelawa@rootsweb.com>nydelawa@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Obits > >The archives for the Daily Star obits are free if you are talking >of the Oneonta Daily Star. I search them all the time. If you go >to their main page and click on Obituary Archives and then click on >the part that says.. >For obituaries prior to April 3, 2006 please ><http://www.thedailystar.com/news/community/obits/index2.html>click here. > That will take you to pages where you can view obits back as far > as July 1998. At the top of the page it shows April 2006, but if > you scroll all the way to the bottom you'll see 1998 - 2004 2005 > and 2006 are on that page you are on. There is no charge to view any of them! > >Sylvia > > > > >

Yes, but those after April 3, 2006 are going to legacy.com. Only those within so many months of today's date are free on legacy - those further back there is a fee to view them. I'm going over them now. Take a look at Ida A. Faoro, the obit was posted on 6/12/2006, there is a fee to view. Rene' -------Original Message------- From: Sylvia Ackerson Date: 6/26/2007 7:01:59 PM To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Obits The archives for the Daily Star obits are free if you are talking of the Oneonta Daily Star. I search them all the time. If you go to their main page and click on Obituary Archives and then click on the part that says.. For obituaries prior to April 3, 2006 please click here. That will take you to pages where you can view obits back as far as July 1998. At the top of the page it shows April 2006, but if you scroll all the way to the bottom you'll see 1998 - 2004 2005 and 2006 are on that page you are on. There is no charge to view any of them! Sylvia

The archives for the Daily Star obits are free if you are talking of the Oneonta Daily Star. I search them all the time. If you go to their main page and click on Obituary Archives and then click on the part that says.. For obituaries prior to April 3, 2006 please <http://www.thedailystar.com/news/community/obits/index2.html>click here. That will take you to pages where you can view obits back as far as July 1998. At the top of the page it shows April 2006, but if you scroll all the way to the bottom you'll see 1998 - 2004 2005 and 2006 are on that page you are on. There is no charge to view any of them! Sylvia At 06:41 PM 6/26/2007 -0400, Rene' wrote: >I've never dealt with Legacy.com before, but had noticed that our local >paper - The Daily Star is now having their obits go there instead of their >local archive. I must say I was very disappointed to see that there was a >charge for the obit. I'm glad to hear that it might only be for some and >not all, even going back to the 1990's is a huge help in some of our >research. > >Rene' > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Sylvia Ackerson >Date: 6/26/2007 5:41:17 PM >To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Gail Shutts Gilbert > >Thanks Rene'. A list member sent me the link to it. It was in the Sullivan >County Democrat. > >I haven't had to pay for an obit from Legacy.com I have had to pay if I went >through obits.com or something like that. One that is affiliated with >ancestry.com Many of the NY papers (and others around the country are >archived in legacy.com and some go back to the late 1990's! > >Sylvia > >

I've never dealt with Legacy.com before, but had noticed that our local paper - The Daily Star is now having their obits go there instead of their local archive. I must say I was very disappointed to see that there was a charge for the obit. I'm glad to hear that it might only be for some and not all, even going back to the 1990's is a huge help in some of our research. Rene' -------Original Message------- From: Sylvia Ackerson Date: 6/26/2007 5:41:17 PM To: Rene'; nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Gail Shutts Gilbert Thanks Rene'. A list member sent me the link to it. It was in the Sullivan County Democrat. I haven't had to pay for an obit from Legacy.com I have had to pay if I went through obits.com or something like that. One that is affiliated with ancestry.com Many of the NY papers (and others around the country are archived in legacy.com and some go back to the late 1990's! Sylvia

Thanks Rene'. A list member sent me the link to it. It was in the Sullivan County Democrat. I haven't had to pay for an obit from Legacy.com I have had to pay if I went through obits.com or something like that. One that is affiliated with ancestry.com Many of the NY papers (and others around the country are archived in legacy.com and some go back to the late 1990's! Sylvia At 04:19 PM 6/26/2007 -0400, you wrote: >Hi Sylvia, > >I went to ancestry.com to try to find her obit. Unfortunately, newspapers >are now using legacy.com for all archived obits. You can go there and get >the obit yourself for 2.95 if you wish or maybe someone can or has the obit >in one of the libraries etc. > >I wish I was of more help, >Rene' >List administrator > >-------Original Message------- > >From: Sylvia Ackerson >Date: 6/26/2007 2:17:28 PM >To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NYDELAWA] Gail Shutts Gilbert > >Hello, > >I wonder if anyone knew Gail Shutts Gilbert? She is a distant cousin >and her parents, Fred and Marjorie were recently victims of the flood >in Colchester. Gail died on Dec 24, 2004 and I'm trying to find an >obituarty. Her last residence or where she died was East Branch, >Delaware Co, NY. > >Sylvia (Chichester) Ackerson >nyamom@atmc.net > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Her obituary was in the Middletown paper. You might want to try Orange County.

Hi Sylvia, I went to ancestry.com to try to find her obit. Unfortunately, newspapers are now using legacy.com for all archived obits. You can go there and get the obit yourself for 2.95 if you wish or maybe someone can or has the obit in one of the libraries etc. I wish I was of more help, Rene' List administrator -------Original Message------- From: Sylvia Ackerson Date: 6/26/2007 2:17:28 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYDELAWA] Gail Shutts Gilbert Hello, I wonder if anyone knew Gail Shutts Gilbert? She is a distant cousin and her parents, Fred and Marjorie were recently victims of the flood in Colchester. Gail died on Dec 24, 2004 and I'm trying to find an obituarty. Her last residence or where she died was East Branch, Delaware Co, NY. Sylvia (Chichester) Ackerson nyamom@atmc.net To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm sorry, it should be Gilmore instead of Gilbert. I apologize for the mistake. Hello, I wonder if anyone knew Gail Shutts Gilbert? She is a distant cousin and her parents, Fred and Marjorie were recently victims of the flood in Colchester. Gail died on Dec 24, 2004 and I'm trying to find an obituarty. Her last residence or where she died was East Branch, Delaware Co, NY. Sylvia (Chichester) Ackerson nyamom@atmc.net