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    1. [NYDELAWA] Delaware UPDATE
    2. Joyce Riedinger
    3. Quick note to give update of yesterday: Thanks to Louise Little, there is history, birth and deaths from the DeLancey United Presbyterian Church, Town of Hamden. Reach those pdf files at: http://www.dcnyhistory.org/hamdenindex.html Am trying to get the site re-indexed by PICO, but at the moment they must be having a problem at their server level. Will post notice when that has been completed. J. Joyce Riedinger - joyce@dcnyhistory.org Delaware County NY Genealogy and History Site http://www.dcnyhistory.org

    07/06/2007 04:38:46
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY
    2. Lester E Gregory
    3. Dick, Was Jack Salton from Walton a descendant of the George Salton you are speaking of? I think he married Russ McCalls sister. Les G----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Dodge" <rbdodge@sbcglobal.net> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY >I am curious to know if we are talking about the same Salton Farm. > Unfortunately I've misplaced my file and map, so I have to go by memory. > We > live in Texas and I visited the farm about 3 or 4 years ago and met the > current owner, an elderly gentleman and his wife. He told me that his > father > had bought the farm about 1912, perhaps you are related somehow. He told > me > that there was an owner between the Salton's and his father. This would > fit > as my great-grandfather, George Salton sold the farm before 1907 and moved > his family to the "Pines" area of Walton. > > I don't remember the farm being at the end of a road. My best recollection > is that we were on Maggie Hoag Road and there was a long driveway down to > the farm house which had a stone fence in front of it. I have pictures of > the farm and the gentleman and his wife. > > Dick Dodge > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Harriett Schultz" <hschultz1@stny.rr.com> > To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 11:18 AM > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY > > > The farm in Terry Clove referred to here is in my family history. A > Salton > owned it prior to my grandfather buying it in 1912. It is situate at the > end of > TAIT HILL RD. I'm not sure but I think the farm at the foot of the hill > was > also owned by Saltons at one time. > > Harriett Schultz > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dick Dodge > To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY > > > I descend from the Salton (Saltoun) family from Peebles, Scotland. At a > Salton reunion held at J Marshal Shaw's, August 19, 1920, Delancey, New > York, "The Salton History" was read by Mrs. Agnes Salton Scott. She was > also > the author. It gives some insight to one family's journey from Scotland to > a > farm in Terry Clove. > > "The Salton History" > > Today I'm going to turn back the wheels of time, and I wish you to go with > me to Scotland, the land of song and story, of beauty and romance. The > name > of Salton was not always spelled as it is today; instead it was Saltoun, > pronounced Saltoon. Our ancestors fought in the days of Wallace and Bruce, > the "Scottish chiefs." > > In the Southwestern part of Scotland, situated near the Tweed river is a > town called Peebles. In the year of 1782 in a cozy cottage on one of its > pleasant streets was born a baby boy. They named him John Salton. Three > years later, or in 1785, in the same town, a winsome little lass was born. > Her name was Jane Murray. > > Years speed by, and life is but a span, "From child to boy, from boy to > man." In those years the town of Peebles has also been growing. There are > many new houses added, one of which the door is open. Let us look within. > There stands a man in the very prime of manhood. Have we not seen a > resemblance to that face before? Why, yes, it is John Salton, who has more > than fulfilled the promise of his boyhood. There is that stately form, > noble > brow, and dark blue eyes. > > He has been true to his boyhood's love, for there sits his little > playmate, > Jane Murray, now his beloved wife and the mother of his eight children, > namely: Agnes, David, Jane, Alexander, Christina, Joanna, John, and > William. David and Jane were twins. > > The scene changes. In the year of 1830, on the shores of Scotland is a > group > of people consisting of John Salton, his wife, their eight children and a > step-grandfather, Noble by name. They have put their trust in God. The > farewells have been said. We see them going step by step down the gang > plank > to embark on that great ship bound for America, in order that their > children > might have free soil to tread upon. No doubt there were tears shed as the > hills of Scotland receded from view, for well they knew that in all > probability they would never tread her shores again, or see the loved ones > left behind. But, had they known of the unseen danger that lurked upon the > ocean voyage, I doubt very much if we had been here today, for in > mid-ocean > the cry of fire was sounded, and you can well imagine what consternation > was > on that ship when it was learned that there was only a thin, pine > partition > between the fire and all the ammunition on board. > > When the alarm of the fire was given, my father being a boy of only eight > years of age, was sitting on the floor eating his porridge and milk. That > scene was always impressed upon his memory. He said some on board cursed > and > swore, others were wringing their hands and crying and others were > praying. > The captain ordered all the old men, women and children down in the cabin, > and the younger men were stationed on deck. They tried to subdue the fire > by > carrying buckets of water across the deck to the place of fire, but the > sea > was so rough that they could only go a short distance and the water would > be > spilled over the deck, and it became so slippery that the men could not > walk. They tried it again and again, but without avail. Meantime the fire > was gaining headway, and it looked very much as if all on board would > sleep > beneath the waves. But God was on the ocean just the same as on the land, > and the means or instrument that He used to put out the fire was our > grandfather John Salton. He being a sailor in former years, suggested > attaching a rope from the fore to the aft of the vessel, and each man take > hold of the rope with the left hand and pass the bucket of water with his > right hand to his neighbor. They did so, and by this means the fire was > extinguished. After a few weeks, with all safe on board, that gallant ship > sailed proudly into New York harbor. > > The Saltons at first went to Albany. From there to Delhi, Delaware County. > I > do not know by what means of transportation they arrived at Delhi, > possibly > by stage. I do know it was not by auto or airship. They lived a short time > in Chandler house on Scotch Mountain, Town of Delhi, then came to Hamden. > They had means enough to have bought what is know as "the Bagley property" > in Delancey, but as they wished to engage in sheep raising as well as > farming they traveled over the hill to Terry Clove and bought a large > tract > of land (from a Mr. Sherwood, I believe) upon which stood a log house. > There > was hardship as well as pleasure at the Salton home, for at the time the > major part of the farm was nearly all primeval forest with the exception > of > a small clearing around the house, but by hard work they cleared the > forest > and made a pleasant and permanent home, known in after years as "the old > Salton homestead. > > The new and more modern buildings built by the Saltons have replaced the > old > log house, and today not a vestige of it is left, neither are there any > who > bear the name of Salton left in Terry Clove, most of whom have passed to > the > Great Beyond. > > Shortly after coming here the Saltons united with a Presbyterian Church. > in > politics they were Republicans. Jane (Murray) Salton was always small, but > like her husband, was full of ambition and energy, and all who came within > their doors received a hearty welcome. There are a number of souvenirs in > the possession of different branches of the old Salton family, some of > which > you may look at now. Here is a booklet showing some views of Peebles. I > have > been told that Peebles was a very pretty place. This view shows the old > Tweed bridge which spans the river Tweed, in whose silvery waters the > Salton > boys (your fathers and mine) caught the salmon trout. Here is a linen > stand > cloth, woven by hands long since turned to dust. My initials, A. S., are > on > the same, wrought by whose hand I know not. And here is a silver coin, on > the face of which is the portrait of King George III, also the date 1816. > This coin belonged to my father. Into Gertrude Salton's had I place it > today. And on my finger today I wear my Grandmother Salton's wedding ring. > A > slender, gold band with a beautiful amethyst stone setting, and, in the > years to come whoever wears this ring, may they as well as all the Salton > race honor the name of Salton, and revere the memory of the pure and > beautiful romance of John Salton and Jane Murray, which began in far away > Scotland and lasted till death. > > John Salton Sr., lived only about ten years after coming to America, and > died November 23, 1839, aged 57 years and 8 months. Jane Murray, wife of > John Salton, died October 18, 1858, aged 73 years, 2 months and 13 days. > They are sleeping side by side in the old Flats Cemetery near Delhi > village, > and their descendants are scattered throughout the length and breadth of > the > land-New York, Connecticut, Virginia, West Virginia, Iowa, Nebraska, New > Mexico, and California's sunny clime. > > I never saw either of my grandparents, they being dead before I was born, > and the only portrait I have of them is a dim old story that hangs on > memory's wall, told to me by my father. > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/885 - Release Date: 7/3/2007 > 10:02 AM >

    07/06/2007 04:28:09
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY
    2. Dick Dodge
    3. Yes, Jack Salton married Genevieve McCall. Jack was the son of Howard David Salton and Hazel Holley. Howard David Salton was the brother of my grandmother, Edith Salton Churchill. They all descended from the John Salton written about in my posting. Jack's parents, Howard and Hazel, had a farm down in what is known as the "Pines". I'm aware of three children of Jack Salton; Sharon, David, and Brain. Dick Dodge

    07/06/2007 04:24:12
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY
    2. Harriett Schultz
    3. Since the farm you refer to is on Maggie Hoag Road which is off the Andes-DeLancey Rd (Bagley Brooke), no we are not talking about the same place. I would be interested to see photos of the farm & people you refer to. (can you email them to me at: hschultz1@stny.rr.com ?) You should be able to pull up a map of Delaware Co at www.maps.com It will show all these roads. www.dcnyhist.org has much info re cemeteries in Del Co - many Saltons buried in the Terry Clove Cem. I would be willing to bet that all these Saltons were related. Shalom Harriett ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Dodge To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY I am curious to know if we are talking about the same Salton Farm. Unfortunately I've misplaced my file and map, so I have to go by memory. We live in Texas and I visited the farm about 3 or 4 years ago and met the current owner, an elderly gentleman and his wife. He told me that his father had bought the farm about 1912, perhaps you are related somehow. He told me that there was an owner between the Salton's and his father. This would fit as my great-grandfather, George Salton sold the farm before 1907 and moved his family to the "Pines" area of Walton. I don't remember the farm being at the end of a road. My best recollection is that we were on Maggie Hoag Road and there was a long driveway down to the farm house which had a stone fence in front of it. I have pictures of the farm and the gentleman and his wife. Dick Dodge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriett Schultz" <hschultz1@stny.rr.com> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY The farm in Terry Clove referred to here is in my family history. A Salton owned it prior to my grandfather buying it in 1912. It is situate at the end of TAIT HILL RD. I'm not sure but I think the farm at the foot of the hill was also owned by Saltons at one time. Harriett Schultz ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Dodge To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY I descend from the Salton (Saltoun) family from Peebles, Scotland. At a Salton reunion held at J Marshal Shaw's, August 19, 1920, Delancey, New York, "The Salton History" was read by Mrs. Agnes Salton Scott. She was also the author. It gives some insight to one family's journey from Scotland to a farm in Terry Clove. "The Salton History" Today I'm going to turn back the wheels of time, and I wish you to go with me to Scotland, the land of song and story, of beauty and romance. The name of Salton was not always spelled as it is today; instead it was Saltoun, pronounced Saltoon. Our ancestors fought in the days of Wallace and Bruce, the "Scottish chiefs." In the Southwestern part of Scotland, situated near the Tweed river is a town called Peebles. In the year of 1782 in a cozy cottage on one of its pleasant streets was born a baby boy. They named him John Salton. Three years later, or in 1785, in the same town, a winsome little lass was born. Her name was Jane Murray. Years speed by, and life is but a span, "From child to boy, from boy to man." In those years the town of Peebles has also been growing. There are many new houses added, one of which the door is open. Let us look within. There stands a man in the very prime of manhood. Have we not seen a resemblance to that face before? Why, yes, it is John Salton, who has more than fulfilled the promise of his boyhood. There is that stately form, noble brow, and dark blue eyes. He has been true to his boyhood's love, for there sits his little playmate, Jane Murray, now his beloved wife and the mother of his eight children, namely: Agnes, David, Jane, Alexander, Christina, Joanna, John, and William. David and Jane were twins. The scene changes. In the year of 1830, on the shores of Scotland is a group of people consisting of John Salton, his wife, their eight children and a step-grandfather, Noble by name. They have put their trust in God. The farewells have been said. We see them going step by step down the gang plank to embark on that great ship bound for America, in order that their children might have free soil to tread upon. No doubt there were tears shed as the hills of Scotland receded from view, for well they knew that in all probability they would never tread her shores again, or see the loved ones left behind. But, had they known of the unseen danger that lurked upon the ocean voyage, I doubt very much if we had been here today, for in mid-ocean the cry of fire was sounded, and you can well imagine what consternation was on that ship when it was learned that there was only a thin, pine partition between the fire and all the ammunition on board. When the alarm of the fire was given, my father being a boy of only eight years of age, was sitting on the floor eating his porridge and milk. That scene was always impressed upon his memory. He said some on board cursed and swore, others were wringing their hands and crying and others were praying. The captain ordered all the old men, women and children down in the cabin, and the younger men were stationed on deck. They tried to subdue the fire by carrying buckets of water across the deck to the place of fire, but the sea was so rough that they could only go a short distance and the water would be spilled over the deck, and it became so slippery that the men could not walk. They tried it again and again, but without avail. Meantime the fire was gaining headway, and it looked very much as if all on board would sleep beneath the waves. But God was on the ocean just the same as on the land, and the means or instrument that He used to put out the fire was our grandfather John Salton. He being a sailor in former years, suggested attaching a rope from the fore to the aft of the vessel, and each man take hold of the rope with the left hand and pass the bucket of water with his right hand to his neighbor. They did so, and by this means the fire was extinguished. After a few weeks, with all safe on board, that gallant ship sailed proudly into New York harbor. The Saltons at first went to Albany. From there to Delhi, Delaware County. I do not know by what means of transportation they arrived at Delhi, possibly by stage. I do know it was not by auto or airship. They lived a short time in Chandler house on Scotch Mountain, Town of Delhi, then came to Hamden. They had means enough to have bought what is know as "the Bagley property" in Delancey, but as they wished to engage in sheep raising as well as farming they traveled over the hill to Terry Clove and bought a large tract of land (from a Mr. Sherwood, I believe) upon which stood a log house. There was hardship as well as pleasure at the Salton home, for at the time the major part of the farm was nearly all primeval forest with the exception of a small clearing around the house, but by hard work they cleared the forest and made a pleasant and permanent home, known in after years as "the old Salton homestead. The new and more modern buildings built by the Saltons have replaced the old log house, and today not a vestige of it is left, neither are there any who bear the name of Salton left in Terry Clove, most of whom have passed to the Great Beyond. Shortly after coming here the Saltons united with a Presbyterian Church. in politics they were Republicans. Jane (Murray) Salton was always small, but like her husband, was full of ambition and energy, and all who came within their doors received a hearty welcome. There are a number of souvenirs in the possession of different branches of the old Salton family, some of which you may look at now. Here is a booklet showing some views of Peebles. I have been told that Peebles was a very pretty place. This view shows the old Tweed bridge which spans the river Tweed, in whose silvery waters the Salton boys (your fathers and mine) caught the salmon trout. Here is a linen stand cloth, woven by hands long since turned to dust. My initials, A. S., are on the same, wrought by whose hand I know not. And here is a silver coin, on the face of which is the portrait of King George III, also the date 1816. This coin belonged to my father. Into Gertrude Salton's had I place it today. And on my finger today I wear my Grandmother Salton's wedding ring. A slender, gold band with a beautiful amethyst stone setting, and, in the years to come whoever wears this ring, may they as well as all the Salton race honor the name of Salton, and revere the memory of the pure and beautiful romance of John Salton and Jane Murray, which began in far away Scotland and lasted till death. John Salton Sr., lived only about ten years after coming to America, and died November 23, 1839, aged 57 years and 8 months. Jane Murray, wife of John Salton, died October 18, 1858, aged 73 years, 2 months and 13 days. They are sleeping side by side in the old Flats Cemetery near Delhi village, and their descendants are scattered throughout the length and breadth of the land-New York, Connecticut, Virginia, West Virginia, Iowa, Nebraska, New Mexico, and California's sunny clime. I never saw either of my grandparents, they being dead before I was born, and the only portrait I have of them is a dim old story that hangs on memory's wall, told to me by my father. 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    07/05/2007 07:33:31
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY
    2. Dick Dodge
    3. I am curious to know if we are talking about the same Salton Farm. Unfortunately I've misplaced my file and map, so I have to go by memory. We live in Texas and I visited the farm about 3 or 4 years ago and met the current owner, an elderly gentleman and his wife. He told me that his father had bought the farm about 1912, perhaps you are related somehow. He told me that there was an owner between the Salton's and his father. This would fit as my great-grandfather, George Salton sold the farm before 1907 and moved his family to the "Pines" area of Walton. I don't remember the farm being at the end of a road. My best recollection is that we were on Maggie Hoag Road and there was a long driveway down to the farm house which had a stone fence in front of it. I have pictures of the farm and the gentleman and his wife. Dick Dodge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriett Schultz" <hschultz1@stny.rr.com> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY The farm in Terry Clove referred to here is in my family history. A Salton owned it prior to my grandfather buying it in 1912. It is situate at the end of TAIT HILL RD. I'm not sure but I think the farm at the foot of the hill was also owned by Saltons at one time. Harriett Schultz ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Dodge To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY I descend from the Salton (Saltoun) family from Peebles, Scotland. At a Salton reunion held at J Marshal Shaw's, August 19, 1920, Delancey, New York, "The Salton History" was read by Mrs. Agnes Salton Scott. She was also the author. It gives some insight to one family's journey from Scotland to a farm in Terry Clove. "The Salton History" Today I'm going to turn back the wheels of time, and I wish you to go with me to Scotland, the land of song and story, of beauty and romance. The name of Salton was not always spelled as it is today; instead it was Saltoun, pronounced Saltoon. Our ancestors fought in the days of Wallace and Bruce, the "Scottish chiefs." In the Southwestern part of Scotland, situated near the Tweed river is a town called Peebles. In the year of 1782 in a cozy cottage on one of its pleasant streets was born a baby boy. They named him John Salton. Three years later, or in 1785, in the same town, a winsome little lass was born. Her name was Jane Murray. Years speed by, and life is but a span, "From child to boy, from boy to man." In those years the town of Peebles has also been growing. There are many new houses added, one of which the door is open. Let us look within. There stands a man in the very prime of manhood. Have we not seen a resemblance to that face before? Why, yes, it is John Salton, who has more than fulfilled the promise of his boyhood. There is that stately form, noble brow, and dark blue eyes. He has been true to his boyhood's love, for there sits his little playmate, Jane Murray, now his beloved wife and the mother of his eight children, namely: Agnes, David, Jane, Alexander, Christina, Joanna, John, and William. David and Jane were twins. The scene changes. In the year of 1830, on the shores of Scotland is a group of people consisting of John Salton, his wife, their eight children and a step-grandfather, Noble by name. They have put their trust in God. The farewells have been said. We see them going step by step down the gang plank to embark on that great ship bound for America, in order that their children might have free soil to tread upon. No doubt there were tears shed as the hills of Scotland receded from view, for well they knew that in all probability they would never tread her shores again, or see the loved ones left behind. But, had they known of the unseen danger that lurked upon the ocean voyage, I doubt very much if we had been here today, for in mid-ocean the cry of fire was sounded, and you can well imagine what consternation was on that ship when it was learned that there was only a thin, pine partition between the fire and all the ammunition on board. When the alarm of the fire was given, my father being a boy of only eight years of age, was sitting on the floor eating his porridge and milk. That scene was always impressed upon his memory. He said some on board cursed and swore, others were wringing their hands and crying and others were praying. The captain ordered all the old men, women and children down in the cabin, and the younger men were stationed on deck. They tried to subdue the fire by carrying buckets of water across the deck to the place of fire, but the sea was so rough that they could only go a short distance and the water would be spilled over the deck, and it became so slippery that the men could not walk. They tried it again and again, but without avail. Meantime the fire was gaining headway, and it looked very much as if all on board would sleep beneath the waves. But God was on the ocean just the same as on the land, and the means or instrument that He used to put out the fire was our grandfather John Salton. He being a sailor in former years, suggested attaching a rope from the fore to the aft of the vessel, and each man take hold of the rope with the left hand and pass the bucket of water with his right hand to his neighbor. They did so, and by this means the fire was extinguished. After a few weeks, with all safe on board, that gallant ship sailed proudly into New York harbor. The Saltons at first went to Albany. From there to Delhi, Delaware County. I do not know by what means of transportation they arrived at Delhi, possibly by stage. I do know it was not by auto or airship. They lived a short time in Chandler house on Scotch Mountain, Town of Delhi, then came to Hamden. They had means enough to have bought what is know as "the Bagley property" in Delancey, but as they wished to engage in sheep raising as well as farming they traveled over the hill to Terry Clove and bought a large tract of land (from a Mr. Sherwood, I believe) upon which stood a log house. There was hardship as well as pleasure at the Salton home, for at the time the major part of the farm was nearly all primeval forest with the exception of a small clearing around the house, but by hard work they cleared the forest and made a pleasant and permanent home, known in after years as "the old Salton homestead. The new and more modern buildings built by the Saltons have replaced the old log house, and today not a vestige of it is left, neither are there any who bear the name of Salton left in Terry Clove, most of whom have passed to the Great Beyond. Shortly after coming here the Saltons united with a Presbyterian Church. in politics they were Republicans. Jane (Murray) Salton was always small, but like her husband, was full of ambition and energy, and all who came within their doors received a hearty welcome. There are a number of souvenirs in the possession of different branches of the old Salton family, some of which you may look at now. Here is a booklet showing some views of Peebles. I have been told that Peebles was a very pretty place. This view shows the old Tweed bridge which spans the river Tweed, in whose silvery waters the Salton boys (your fathers and mine) caught the salmon trout. Here is a linen stand cloth, woven by hands long since turned to dust. My initials, A. S., are on the same, wrought by whose hand I know not. And here is a silver coin, on the face of which is the portrait of King George III, also the date 1816. This coin belonged to my father. Into Gertrude Salton's had I place it today. And on my finger today I wear my Grandmother Salton's wedding ring. A slender, gold band with a beautiful amethyst stone setting, and, in the years to come whoever wears this ring, may they as well as all the Salton race honor the name of Salton, and revere the memory of the pure and beautiful romance of John Salton and Jane Murray, which began in far away Scotland and lasted till death. John Salton Sr., lived only about ten years after coming to America, and died November 23, 1839, aged 57 years and 8 months. Jane Murray, wife of John Salton, died October 18, 1858, aged 73 years, 2 months and 13 days. They are sleeping side by side in the old Flats Cemetery near Delhi village, and their descendants are scattered throughout the length and breadth of the land-New York, Connecticut, Virginia, West Virginia, Iowa, Nebraska, New Mexico, and California's sunny clime. I never saw either of my grandparents, they being dead before I was born, and the only portrait I have of them is a dim old story that hangs on memory's wall, told to me by my father. 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    07/05/2007 05:12:52
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Castle Garden, NY passenger lists
    2. Valerie Brown
    3. You're welcome! And, I am no closer to completely understanding the attraction to Bovina other than it was development over time, from countyman to countyman, that influemced generation by generation to settle there (and the rest of Delaware county). Many of us have relations in one generation or in successive arriving generations from Roxburgshire. The time frames tell that they had to know one another. Aren't list-serves wonderful?!! On another list, I learned that a possible ship that could have brought my ancestor to Canada (as he is not found at Castle Garden port) is found in the Montreal Transcript of July 8, 1841 in the shipping section. The bad news is, Canada does not have archived passenger lists for this period [1841], I was told. Still searching... ~Valerie --- "Alan J. Downie" <adownie@hughesarchitects.com> wrote: > I owe a note of thanks to all for the > Scottish-Delaware County question and comments. > Through this I became aware for the first time of > the Castle Garden Port in NYC. I had wondered why I > couldn't find a record of my ancestors at the Ellis > Island website. I found them listed by using the > search engine at castlegarden.org. From 1830 to > 1892, immigrants to New York City came through a > port called Castle Garden, where Castle Clinton > National Monument is located today at The Battery on > Manhattan. Ellis Island opened in 1892. This gave > me the name of their ship "The City of New York", > and with that I found http://immigrantships.net. At > this site I found a complete passenger list > http://immigrantships.net/v7/1800v7/newyorkco18580630.html > which was actually more accurate than the one at > castlegarden.org that contained mistakes in my > ancestor's ages and country of origin. The list > wasn't transcribed until 2005, so if you haven't > searched for a passenger list since then, I re! > commend this site. > > Oh, interestingly enough they listed their > destination as Ohio, not Bovina. I think they went > to Bovina to settle with relatives, but then they > did end up moving to Ohio for the land rush and > later back to Virginia, but that's another story. > > Thanks so much! This was a major break-through for > my research!!! What a great Independence Day gift! > All the more meaningful as we welcome our new > daughter and American citizen Sofia home from > Guatemala. Woohoo! > > Alan Downie > > To contact list administrator send email to > nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/

    07/04/2007 10:14:18
    1. [NYDELAWA] Castle Garden, NY passenger lists
    2. Alan J. Downie
    3. I owe a note of thanks to all for the Scottish-Delaware County question and comments. Through this I became aware for the first time of the Castle Garden Port in NYC. I had wondered why I couldn't find a record of my ancestors at the Ellis Island website. I found them listed by using the search engine at castlegarden.org. From 1830 to 1892, immigrants to New York City came through a port called Castle Garden, where Castle Clinton National Monument is located today at The Battery on Manhattan. Ellis Island opened in 1892. This gave me the name of their ship "The City of New York", and with that I found http://immigrantships.net. At this site I found a complete passenger list http://immigrantships.net/v7/1800v7/newyorkco18580630.html which was actually more accurate than the one at castlegarden.org that contained mistakes in my ancestor's ages and country of origin. The list wasn't transcribed until 2005, so if you haven't searched for a passenger list since then, I re! commend this site. Oh, interestingly enough they listed their destination as Ohio, not Bovina. I think they went to Bovina to settle with relatives, but then they did end up moving to Ohio for the land rush and later back to Virginia, but that's another story. Thanks so much! This was a major break-through for my research!!! What a great Independence Day gift! All the more meaningful as we welcome our new daughter and American citizen Sofia home from Guatemala. Woohoo! Alan Downie

    07/04/2007 09:48:49
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY
    2. Harriett Schultz
    3. The farm in Terry Clove referred to here is in my family history. A Salton owned it prior to my grandfather buying it in 1912. It is situate at the end of TAIT HILL RD. I'm not sure but I think the farm at the foot of the hill was also owned by Saltons at one time. Harriett Schultz ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Dodge To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY I descend from the Salton (Saltoun) family from Peebles, Scotland. At a Salton reunion held at J Marshal Shaw's, August 19, 1920, Delancey, New York, "The Salton History" was read by Mrs. Agnes Salton Scott. She was also the author. It gives some insight to one family's journey from Scotland to a farm in Terry Clove. "The Salton History" Today I'm going to turn back the wheels of time, and I wish you to go with me to Scotland, the land of song and story, of beauty and romance. The name of Salton was not always spelled as it is today; instead it was Saltoun, pronounced Saltoon. Our ancestors fought in the days of Wallace and Bruce, the "Scottish chiefs." In the Southwestern part of Scotland, situated near the Tweed river is a town called Peebles. In the year of 1782 in a cozy cottage on one of its pleasant streets was born a baby boy. They named him John Salton. Three years later, or in 1785, in the same town, a winsome little lass was born. Her name was Jane Murray. Years speed by, and life is but a span, "From child to boy, from boy to man." In those years the town of Peebles has also been growing. There are many new houses added, one of which the door is open. Let us look within. There stands a man in the very prime of manhood. Have we not seen a resemblance to that face before? Why, yes, it is John Salton, who has more than fulfilled the promise of his boyhood. There is that stately form, noble brow, and dark blue eyes. He has been true to his boyhood's love, for there sits his little playmate, Jane Murray, now his beloved wife and the mother of his eight children, namely: Agnes, David, Jane, Alexander, Christina, Joanna, John, and William. David and Jane were twins. The scene changes. In the year of 1830, on the shores of Scotland is a group of people consisting of John Salton, his wife, their eight children and a step-grandfather, Noble by name. They have put their trust in God. The farewells have been said. We see them going step by step down the gang plank to embark on that great ship bound for America, in order that their children might have free soil to tread upon. No doubt there were tears shed as the hills of Scotland receded from view, for well they knew that in all probability they would never tread her shores again, or see the loved ones left behind. But, had they known of the unseen danger that lurked upon the ocean voyage, I doubt very much if we had been here today, for in mid-ocean the cry of fire was sounded, and you can well imagine what consternation was on that ship when it was learned that there was only a thin, pine partition between the fire and all the ammunition on board. When the alarm of the fire was given, my father being a boy of only eight years of age, was sitting on the floor eating his porridge and milk. That scene was always impressed upon his memory. He said some on board cursed and swore, others were wringing their hands and crying and others were praying. The captain ordered all the old men, women and children down in the cabin, and the younger men were stationed on deck. They tried to subdue the fire by carrying buckets of water across the deck to the place of fire, but the sea was so rough that they could only go a short distance and the water would be spilled over the deck, and it became so slippery that the men could not walk. They tried it again and again, but without avail. Meantime the fire was gaining headway, and it looked very much as if all on board would sleep beneath the waves. But God was on the ocean just the same as on the land, and the means or instrument that He used to put out the fire was our grandfather John Salton. He being a sailor in former years, suggested attaching a rope from the fore to the aft of the vessel, and each man take hold of the rope with the left hand and pass the bucket of water with his right hand to his neighbor. They did so, and by this means the fire was extinguished. After a few weeks, with all safe on board, that gallant ship sailed proudly into New York harbor. The Saltons at first went to Albany. From there to Delhi, Delaware County. I do not know by what means of transportation they arrived at Delhi, possibly by stage. I do know it was not by auto or airship. They lived a short time in Chandler house on Scotch Mountain, Town of Delhi, then came to Hamden. They had means enough to have bought what is know as "the Bagley property" in Delancey, but as they wished to engage in sheep raising as well as farming they traveled over the hill to Terry Clove and bought a large tract of land (from a Mr. Sherwood, I believe) upon which stood a log house. There was hardship as well as pleasure at the Salton home, for at the time the major part of the farm was nearly all primeval forest with the exception of a small clearing around the house, but by hard work they cleared the forest and made a pleasant and permanent home, known in after years as "the old Salton homestead. The new and more modern buildings built by the Saltons have replaced the old log house, and today not a vestige of it is left, neither are there any who bear the name of Salton left in Terry Clove, most of whom have passed to the Great Beyond. Shortly after coming here the Saltons united with a Presbyterian Church. in politics they were Republicans. Jane (Murray) Salton was always small, but like her husband, was full of ambition and energy, and all who came within their doors received a hearty welcome. There are a number of souvenirs in the possession of different branches of the old Salton family, some of which you may look at now. Here is a booklet showing some views of Peebles. I have been told that Peebles was a very pretty place. This view shows the old Tweed bridge which spans the river Tweed, in whose silvery waters the Salton boys (your fathers and mine) caught the salmon trout. Here is a linen stand cloth, woven by hands long since turned to dust. My initials, A. S., are on the same, wrought by whose hand I know not. And here is a silver coin, on the face of which is the portrait of King George III, also the date 1816. This coin belonged to my father. Into Gertrude Salton's had I place it today. And on my finger today I wear my Grandmother Salton's wedding ring. A slender, gold band with a beautiful amethyst stone setting, and, in the years to come whoever wears this ring, may they as well as all the Salton race honor the name of Salton, and revere the memory of the pure and beautiful romance of John Salton and Jane Murray, which began in far away Scotland and lasted till death. John Salton Sr., lived only about ten years after coming to America, and died November 23, 1839, aged 57 years and 8 months. Jane Murray, wife of John Salton, died October 18, 1858, aged 73 years, 2 months and 13 days. They are sleeping side by side in the old Flats Cemetery near Delhi village, and their descendants are scattered throughout the length and breadth of the land-New York, Connecticut, Virginia, West Virginia, Iowa, Nebraska, New Mexico, and California's sunny clime. I never saw either of my grandparents, they being dead before I was born, and the only portrait I have of them is a dim old story that hangs on memory's wall, told to me by my father. To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/04/2007 06:18:35
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY
    2. Dick Dodge
    3. I descend from the Salton (Saltoun) family from Peebles, Scotland. At a Salton reunion held at J Marshal Shaw's, August 19, 1920, Delancey, New York, "The Salton History" was read by Mrs. Agnes Salton Scott. She was also the author. It gives some insight to one family's journey from Scotland to a farm in Terry Clove. "The Salton History" Today I'm going to turn back the wheels of time, and I wish you to go with me to Scotland, the land of song and story, of beauty and romance. The name of Salton was not always spelled as it is today; instead it was Saltoun, pronounced Saltoon. Our ancestors fought in the days of Wallace and Bruce, the "Scottish chiefs." In the Southwestern part of Scotland, situated near the Tweed river is a town called Peebles. In the year of 1782 in a cozy cottage on one of its pleasant streets was born a baby boy. They named him John Salton. Three years later, or in 1785, in the same town, a winsome little lass was born. Her name was Jane Murray. Years speed by, and life is but a span, "From child to boy, from boy to man." In those years the town of Peebles has also been growing. There are many new houses added, one of which the door is open. Let us look within. There stands a man in the very prime of manhood. Have we not seen a resemblance to that face before? Why, yes, it is John Salton, who has more than fulfilled the promise of his boyhood. There is that stately form, noble brow, and dark blue eyes. He has been true to his boyhood's love, for there sits his little playmate, Jane Murray, now his beloved wife and the mother of his eight children, namely: Agnes, David, Jane, Alexander, Christina, Joanna, John, and William. David and Jane were twins. The scene changes. In the year of 1830, on the shores of Scotland is a group of people consisting of John Salton, his wife, their eight children and a step-grandfather, Noble by name. They have put their trust in God. The farewells have been said. We see them going step by step down the gang plank to embark on that great ship bound for America, in order that their children might have free soil to tread upon. No doubt there were tears shed as the hills of Scotland receded from view, for well they knew that in all probability they would never tread her shores again, or see the loved ones left behind. But, had they known of the unseen danger that lurked upon the ocean voyage, I doubt very much if we had been here today, for in mid-ocean the cry of fire was sounded, and you can well imagine what consternation was on that ship when it was learned that there was only a thin, pine partition between the fire and all the ammunition on board. When the alarm of the fire was given, my father being a boy of only eight years of age, was sitting on the floor eating his porridge and milk. That scene was always impressed upon his memory. He said some on board cursed and swore, others were wringing their hands and crying and others were praying. The captain ordered all the old men, women and children down in the cabin, and the younger men were stationed on deck. They tried to subdue the fire by carrying buckets of water across the deck to the place of fire, but the sea was so rough that they could only go a short distance and the water would be spilled over the deck, and it became so slippery that the men could not walk. They tried it again and again, but without avail. Meantime the fire was gaining headway, and it looked very much as if all on board would sleep beneath the waves. But God was on the ocean just the same as on the land, and the means or instrument that He used to put out the fire was our grandfather John Salton. He being a sailor in former years, suggested attaching a rope from the fore to the aft of the vessel, and each man take hold of the rope with the left hand and pass the bucket of water with his right hand to his neighbor. They did so, and by this means the fire was extinguished. After a few weeks, with all safe on board, that gallant ship sailed proudly into New York harbor. The Saltons at first went to Albany. From there to Delhi, Delaware County. I do not know by what means of transportation they arrived at Delhi, possibly by stage. I do know it was not by auto or airship. They lived a short time in Chandler house on Scotch Mountain, Town of Delhi, then came to Hamden. They had means enough to have bought what is know as "the Bagley property" in Delancey, but as they wished to engage in sheep raising as well as farming they traveled over the hill to Terry Clove and bought a large tract of land (from a Mr. Sherwood, I believe) upon which stood a log house. There was hardship as well as pleasure at the Salton home, for at the time the major part of the farm was nearly all primeval forest with the exception of a small clearing around the house, but by hard work they cleared the forest and made a pleasant and permanent home, known in after years as "the old Salton homestead. The new and more modern buildings built by the Saltons have replaced the old log house, and today not a vestige of it is left, neither are there any who bear the name of Salton left in Terry Clove, most of whom have passed to the Great Beyond. Shortly after coming here the Saltons united with a Presbyterian Church. in politics they were Republicans. Jane (Murray) Salton was always small, but like her husband, was full of ambition and energy, and all who came within their doors received a hearty welcome. There are a number of souvenirs in the possession of different branches of the old Salton family, some of which you may look at now. Here is a booklet showing some views of Peebles. I have been told that Peebles was a very pretty place. This view shows the old Tweed bridge which spans the river Tweed, in whose silvery waters the Salton boys (your fathers and mine) caught the salmon trout. Here is a linen stand cloth, woven by hands long since turned to dust. My initials, A. S., are on the same, wrought by whose hand I know not. And here is a silver coin, on the face of which is the portrait of King George III, also the date 1816. This coin belonged to my father. Into Gertrude Salton's had I place it today. And on my finger today I wear my Grandmother Salton's wedding ring. A slender, gold band with a beautiful amethyst stone setting, and, in the years to come whoever wears this ring, may they as well as all the Salton race honor the name of Salton, and revere the memory of the pure and beautiful romance of John Salton and Jane Murray, which began in far away Scotland and lasted till death. John Salton Sr., lived only about ten years after coming to America, and died November 23, 1839, aged 57 years and 8 months. Jane Murray, wife of John Salton, died October 18, 1858, aged 73 years, 2 months and 13 days. They are sleeping side by side in the old Flats Cemetery near Delhi village, and their descendants are scattered throughout the length and breadth of the land-New York, Connecticut, Virginia, West Virginia, Iowa, Nebraska, New Mexico, and California's sunny clime. I never saw either of my grandparents, they being dead before I was born, and the only portrait I have of them is a dim old story that hangs on memory's wall, told to me by my father.

    07/04/2007 03:41:02
    1. [NYDELAWA] Happy 4th!
    2. Jim Groat
    3. Our best wishes to all of you and yours for a Happy Independence Day! http://www.theshufelts.net/welcome4th.htm Follow the clicks! Have a GREAT DAY!! Jim Groat

    07/03/2007 04:29:04
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] information on ship's passengers lists
    2. Valerie Brown
    3. To all: Try this Web-site for searching ship's passenger lists: http://www.theshipslist.com/ and don't forget Cindi's List: http://www.cyndislist.com/ships.htm ~Valerie --- Valerie Brown <vwbrown08@yahoo.com> wrote: > Just like censues, requirements change over time. > Not > every passenger list has been transcribed; not all > were perfect, i.e. formated of requirements. Off > line > I receive this for a possible place to seach in > Canada: > "http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/canada/ > Just scroll down the page and look for "Finding > Ancestors > on Canadian Passenger Lists" > There's a list with links for ship arrivals BEFORE > 1865 and > ship arrivals AFTER 1865. I hope this helps!" > ~Valerie > > > --- JEANNIE FLYE <jflye@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Valerie Brown" <vwbrown08@yahoo.com> > > To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:11 PM > > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why > Delaware > > County? > > > > > For my relations to give "Bovina" as their > > destination > > > on the 1851 ship's passenger list implies > > intention. > > > > My ancestors came in the early 1800s and I > have > > not found any ship's > > lists that includes them. Were there records then > > that have been found and > > transcribed? Is it always the case that a > person's > > exact destination would > > be recorded? > > > > I also have ancestors who arrived in the late > > 1800s/early 1900s and on > > those passenger lists they were required to give > > their last known address, > > where they were going, who was "sponsoring" them > and > > how much money they > > had. Was this also required back in the > mid-1800s? > > > > Jeanne (Raitt Flye) > > > > > > To contact list administrator send email to > > nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready > for the edge of your seat? > Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/

    07/03/2007 06:44:28
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] information on ship's passengers lists
    2. Valerie Brown
    3. Jeannie, On a different list I received this reply to another person that relates to your question below. "I don't want to sound too negative but it is very challenging to find a ships passenger list to Canada in the time period you need. Passesnger lists did not have to be kept until 1865 so few survive. Hiring a professional IMO would be a huge waste of your money. There simply are very few surviving lists for this time period and those that have survived are obscure . One example of an alternate for later years 1847-1871 is the JJ Cooke Shipping Records which are now online. But that is too late for you However the good news is that there are MANY projects online that have ships lists and/or alternate lists, such as Sue Swiggum's lists of passages once an immigrant reached Lower Canada (Quebec). One good set Sue is working on is St. Lawrence Steamboat Co. Passenger Records 1819- 1836 (links available at the URL below) You can read what is available online and use the links provided to get to these free resources. There are very few others available, offline or on. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/canada/ then scroll DOWN to "Filling in the Gaps in Ships Passenger Lists to Canada Before 1865" I beleive the reply came from a person affiliated with the Olive Tree Genealogy site. ~Valerie --- JEANNIE FLYE <jflye@verizon.net> wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Valerie Brown" <vwbrown08@yahoo.com> > To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 3:11 PM > Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why Delaware > County? > > > For my relations to give "Bovina" as their > destination > > on the 1851 ship's passenger list implies > intention. > > My ancestors came in the early 1800s and I have > not found any ship's > lists that includes them. Were there records then > that have been found and > transcribed? Is it always the case that a person's > exact destination would > be recorded? > > I also have ancestors who arrived in the late > 1800s/early 1900s and on > those passenger lists they were required to give > their last known address, > where they were going, who was "sponsoring" them and > how much money they > had. Was this also required back in the mid-1800s? > > Jeanne (Raitt Flye) > > > To contact list administrator send email to > nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121

    07/03/2007 06:14:57
    1. [NYDELAWA] Scots in Delaware County
    2. The Poupel/Morddel family
    3. Has anyone doing Scots in Delaware Co. come across a Mary C. Kincaid/Kinkead/etc. who married Garret Arnold abt; 1820-1830, please? Or any other county in NY for that matter. Thank you, Anna --------------------------------- Looking for a deal? Find great prices on flights and hotels with Yahoo! FareChase.

    07/03/2007 03:41:21
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots & Dutch marriages
    2. Sally Chirlin
    3. Thanks, My Peter has never made any of the genealogies I've found to date!!! Sally On Jul 2, 2007, at 6:06 PM, SUE Tait wrote: > Sally, > > The follwing link contains information on the Schermerhorn name. > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/historical/southernnewyork/ > s_ny_25.htm#schermerhorn > > Sue > > >> From: Sally Chirlin <chirlin@roadrunner.com> >> Reply-To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com >> To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [NYDELAWA] Scots & Dutch marriages >> Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:40:03 -0400 >> >> I find this possibility intriguing. My Peter Schermerhorn, b. >> Dutchess >> co. 1790 whose parents are unknown to me as yet, married Rachel >> Edmonds, of Edmonds and Kennedy lines. Both these lines came during >> the mid 1700s to CT, I think, from northern Ireland but originally, >> again I think, from Scotland. I don't know whether the two >> Scots-Irish >> families came into Dutchess Co. and just married Dutch spouses because >> of opportunity or what. It's a very interesting and new idea to me!!! >> >> Sally Chirlin >> >> To contact list administrator send email to >> nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > http://newlivehotmail.com > > To contact list administrator send email to > nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/02/2007 12:57:27
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots & Dutch marriages
    2. SUE Tait
    3. Sally, The follwing link contains information on the Schermerhorn name. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/topic/historical/southernnewyork/s_ny_25.htm#schermerhorn Sue >From: Sally Chirlin <chirlin@roadrunner.com> >Reply-To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com >To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com >Subject: [NYDELAWA] Scots & Dutch marriages >Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 18:40:03 -0400 > >I find this possibility intriguing. My Peter Schermerhorn, b. Dutchess >co. 1790 whose parents are unknown to me as yet, married Rachel >Edmonds, of Edmonds and Kennedy lines. Both these lines came during >the mid 1700s to CT, I think, from northern Ireland but originally, >again I think, from Scotland. I don't know whether the two Scots-Irish >families came into Dutchess Co. and just married Dutch spouses because >of opportunity or what. It's a very interesting and new idea to me!!! > >Sally Chirlin > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ http://newlivehotmail.com

    07/02/2007 12:06:48
    1. [NYDELAWA] Blake
    2. SUE Tait
    3. Hi Everyone, I am looking for information on descendants of the Blake family in Delaware County. This family also has/had descenants in Massachusetts and New hampshire as well as other states. Thank you for your help. Sue _________________________________________________________________ http://liveearth.msn.com

    07/02/2007 10:05:38
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why Delaware County?...Patterson, McKee
    2. Salisbury,Ronald L
    3. I have been reading your queries with some interest. I just finished a book entitled "The Mark of Honor" by Hazel C. Mathews, 1965, University of Toronto Press. Much of it has to do with Scottish loyalists. There is a special chapter entitled " A Journey to Kortright in 1804" about Scottish loyalists who returned from their Canadian refuge to Delaware County. There is also a list of Loyalists (not complete) who settled around Kortright, New Stamford and the head of the Delaware River and later were forced to resettle in Canada. One was John McKee from Harpersfield. He apparently resettled in Osnabruck Twp in Canada. The sources from which this list was assembled was given in the book. Ron Salisbury -----Original Message----- From: nydelawa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydelawa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Catherine Havemeier Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 4:24 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why Delaware County?...Patterson,McKee To Florence Kemp, Are you related to the Kemps who settled in Meridale? Thanks, Catherine Gibson Havemeier >From: Florence <hkemp@insight.rr.com> >Reply-To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com >To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why Delaware >County?...Patterson,McKee >Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 05:59:35 -0400 > >I haven't found any of my direct line of McKee's still in Delaware >County. The last ones I know of would be my gggrandfather and mother >James McKee and Ann McClaughry McKee, buried in Gilchrist Memorial >Church cemetery in Kortright around 1880. Gilchrist church and >cemetery are beautifully documented on this site. There is a posting >in the archives from 1999 from a Mr. Claude, who says that there are >two distinct lines of McKee's, the Kortright ones, and the Delhi and >area ones, which are his line. He offers to share information on his >line in that posting. so you might try contacting him. Flo Kemp, Ohio. >_______________________________________________________________________ _ >___________ > >On Jun 29, 2007, at 6:55 AM, Laughlinjean@aol.com wrote: > > > Do you still have Mckee's in Delaware > > county? I have that surname in my grandmothers paternal side in > > Delhi. > > > > Bonnie > > NY > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at http:// > > www.aol.com. > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa- > > admin@rootsweb.com > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/02/2007 05:22:10
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] For the Scots, why Delaware County?...Patterson, McKee
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    07/02/2007 05:08:44
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] list messages archived?
    2. Rene'
    3. Yes, the list messages are archived. You can find them here: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=nydelawa Rene' list administrator -------Original Message------- From: Ann and Bob Frederking Date: 6/29/2007 10:27:28 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] list messages archived?

    07/02/2007 02:57:30
    1. Re: [NYDELAWA] NYDELAWA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 91
    2. Many thanks to 'thegrove131' for the link to newenglandancestors.org. What a wonderful resource! Although it doesn't include all NY counties, it's provided me with a long-sought key piece of information. -- Joyce ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

    07/01/2007 03:31:20