Hi-- Can't tell you for certain, but Jacob GRAY, brother to Nehemiah, and mentioned in the estate settlement, had 7 children that I can determine. I've accounted for 2 of the males and 2 of the females. The third male falls in the 1800/1810 age group. Has your Jacob ever been referred to as "Junior"? -----Original Message----- From: nydelawa-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nydelawa-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Laughlinjean@aol.com Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:41 AM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Nehemiah GRAY of Fairfield Co., CT Does anybody know if one of these Gray's is the father of Jacob Gray born in 1804, same area of Conn. Later removed to Hamden? ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anybody know if one of these Gray's is the father of Jacob Gray born in 1804, same area of Conn. Later removed to Hamden? ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Thank you Jeff. I didn't have a clue as to who possibly was Nehemiah's father.. This may answer some questions now. Thanks Rhonda ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Hello Listers: ??????????????? Sorry for the previous message concerning Nehemiah GRAY.?? ????? I'm having some techical difficulties with AOL working with this site.? But I think it is solved. ????? Please disregard all of the question marks (????) and exclamation points (!!!!).? They are definitely not part of the text. ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Jeff ????????? ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

Hello listers: ?????????? Long time reader?of the list,?but just now joining.?? ?????????? I've been researching the GRAY families of Fairfield Co., CT for a number of years and on occasion will check to see if anything new has surfaced here in Delaware County.? The other day?I may have come across?the link to join the GRAYs of both counties together.? The following is from "The Public Records of the State of Connecticut", compiled by Leonard Woods Labaree.? Published in 1948.? This is Volume VII, for the time period May 1789-Oct 1792, pages 339 and 340.? Spellings have not been altered.? And yes, in the first paragraph an heir's name is "David Gray", and in the second paragraph the heir's name is "Daniel Gray". ????????? This is dated May 1791.? "Upon the Petition of Hezekiah Bradley, shewing to this Assembly that he recovered a Judgement before the County Court at Fairfield in and for Fairfield County on the third Tuesday of?April 1787 against Seth Gray, as he is Administrator on the Estate of Jacob Gray Deceased, for the sum of 7.11.0 <pounds> Debt the Proper Debt of said Deceased, And for the Sum of 3.14.2 L <pounds> Money Costs of Suit, and that thereon he took out an Execution in due form of Law to recover the said Sums out of the Goods Chattels or Lands of?said Deceased &c, And that he Caused said Execution to be Levied on One Acre of Land and a Dwelling House thereon standing as the Estate of said Deceased, And the same Land and House was duely Appraised by Freeholders &c as the Estate of said Deceased for the satisfying said Execution and said Land and dwelling House was duely described and said Levy duely endorsed on said Execution, and said Execution was duely returned to! the Office of the Clerk of the Town of Fairfield and recorded in said?Office at full length with said Indorsement, and hath been duely returned?and Recorded at full length in the Office of the Clerk of the County Court in said County &c And that said Seth Gray and Nehemiah Gray, David Gray, Jacob Gray?& Naomi Smith Wife of Ebenezer Smith are Children and Heirs of said Deceased?and Seized in fee of said Land and dwelling House, And that said Petitioner hath not by force of said Levy acquired a good Title to said Dwelling House and Land to himself?his Heirs and Assigns, And that said Administrator and his Surety in the?Administration Bond are Poor and Insolvent Praying this Assembly to Order and Decree that the said Levy of the said Execution and the Records thereof be good and effectual in Law to make a good Title to him?the Petitioner and to his Heirs and Assigns forever against each and every of said Children and Heirs of said Deceased Claiming and holding said House and ! Lands as they are Heirs of said Deceased and to divest all said Heirs of all Right Title or Claim thereto as Heirs to said Deceased as per Petition on file ? Resolved by this Assembly that said Levy of?said Execution and the Records thereof be good and effectual in Law to make a good Title to said Hezekiah Bradley And to his Heirs and Assigns forever against said Seth Gray, Nehemiah Gray, Daniel Gray, Jacob Gray and Naomi Smith Wife of?Ebenezer Smith and each and every of them as Children and Heirs to said Deceased Claiming and holding said Dwelling House and Land as Heirs to said Deceased, And this Assembly do Order and Decree that said Heirs and each of them be divested and they and each of them are hereby divested of all Right Title or Claim thereto as Heirs to said Deceased." ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Jeff Gray ________________________________________________________________________ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

At http://www.dcnyhistory.org/searchengines.html enter "David Harrower" and select "Find EXACT phrase". You'll get ten hits. Enter "Harrower" and you'll get 25. vb --- K Powell <grannytoad@yahoo.com> wrote: > Out of curiosity, any references to Reverend David > Harrower Jr? I have tried to > sort out the Harrowers, from David Sr born bef 1745 > Scotland - 1814 or aft > Delaware Co, his son Jr 1767 Scotland - 1853. Two > other Scot born sons appear > to be Dugal 1776 - 1842 Hamden, and likely Benjamin > born about 1763 who like > David Jr moved to Steuben Co. > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready > for the edge of your seat? > Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. > http://tv.yahoo.com/ > To contact list administrator send email to > nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222

Out of curiosity, any references to Reverend David Harrower Jr? I have tried to sort out the Harrowers, from David Sr born bef 1745 Scotland - 1814 or aft Delaware Co, his son Jr 1767 Scotland - 1853. Two other Scot born sons appear to be Dugal 1776 - 1842 Hamden, and likely Benjamin born about 1763 who like David Jr moved to Steuben Co. ____________________________________________________________________________________Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/

Hi All, I have been monitoring the Scots in Delaware Co. and remembered that the Presbyterian Church in Delhi went back to 1805 and it was established mainly by Scots. I also know they have a library - archives there and so I asked them about the Scots coming there and this is their answer: From: "Clara" <cstewart004@stny.rr.com> To: <john_h_beach@compuserve.com> Subject: scottish ancestors Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 09:05:26 -0400 Dear Mr. Beach, I will try to answer your question concerning the Scots who came to this area. At this time, early to middle 1800s, life in Scotland was very difficult. Most of the Scots could not own land as it was owned by English well-to-do gentlemen. The Scots working on the land had to pay rent. It was a time of religious problems. The industrial revolution was beginning and machines were taking the place of workers in the woolen mills. Of course, this new Country was developing, had lots of land and needed to increase the population. Unfortunately, some of the immigrants came here only to find they still had to pay rent. A good book to read is; "A Free Soil-A Free People: The Anti-Rent War in Delaware County, New York" by Dorothy Kubik. The First Presbyterian Church recently celebrated 200 years of services. The first Church was built where the College Golf Course is at present, then to the Village in 1882. We now have an archives at the Church with maps and books designating who and where people came from in Scotland. I would be happy to show you our history when you are in Delhi. Clara Stewart Delhi, NY Don't forget that there many turnpikes, railroads and canals being built and this helped some of the Scots find jobs in several area of many years. Many Scots came here through Nova Scotia once the word went out about job openings. Small Scot settlements grew over time in several area throughout NY. Once they were established, they became a magnet for others to come. As these places increased in population other needs became evident, thus more trades were worked by the Scots. This would be true of any immigrant background. Hope some will be able to find more in Delhi. Kind regards, John H. Beach Yonkers, NY john_h_beach@compuserve.com Note: The "_" character is the underscore character, NOT a space or dash. July 12, 2007 9:29 am

I don't know if this is helpful or not, but I put this on the NYOtsego County website yesterday. When I saw the name this morning I knew I had seen it recently. Hope it helps, Rene' NYDelaware List Administrator Royal Bennett, of Springfield centre, was born August 19,1809, in the town of Springfield, and is the son of Jedediah and Lucy Bennett, the former of whom was born in Rensselaer County, removed to the town of Springfield at an early day, settled on a new farm and there died. A fuller mention of both Jedediah Bennett and his father is made in the biography of Marvin Bennett, elsewhere in this volume. Royal Bennett remained at home until his marriage, November 17, 1836, to Angeline Smith, who was born in the town of Springfield, May 22, 1813. She is the daughter of Abijah Smith and his wife, who reared a family of ten children, six of whom are now living. Mr. Smith was a farmer by occupation. He and his wife were members of the Baptist Church. He was a Whig in politics. Royal Bennett first lived on his father's farm four years after his marriage but in 1840 removed to the farm where he now lives, which at first he and his brother bough in partnership, but which our subject now owns. It contains 100 acres. Mr. and Mrs. Bennett have one child living, Sylvania, who was born May 4, 1838, and is the wife of Era B. Ten Eyck. Mr. Ten Eyck was born March 26, 1831, in the town of Warren, and is the son of William and Sally Ten Eyck, both of whom were natives of this State. William Ten Eyck died at the age of eighty-four. He was a Democrat. They were both members of the Methodist Episcopal Church. Sylvania Bennett and Ezra B. Ten Eyck were married December 1, 1868, and now reside on the home farm with her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Bennett. They have one son, Morris, born Jan 31, 1875. Mr. Ten Eyck is a Republican in politics. He is an excellent man of good character and correct principles and conduct, and is a successful farmer. He and his wife are members of the Baptist Church. Mr. and Mrs. Bennett are among the oldest people living in the town of Springfield. he is a very active man for his age, and can remember well many of the incidents of his boyhood. He as a beautiful farm and excellent buildings, all the improvements being first class. he and his wife are members of the Baptist Church. In politics he is a Republican. -------Original Message------- From: Valerie Brown Date: 7/11/2007 7:45:50 AM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Unique Revolutionary War Vet in Delaware in 1840 Have you tried searching under the common surmane "Ten Eyck"? ~Valerie

Patty--Thank you so much for citing this resource. It looks terrific! Sally in North Carolina On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:34:43 -0400 Patty Gaddis <geneamom@comcast.net> writes: > Marc, > > The deedbooks microfilmed by SLC go back to > 1792. > http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp? display=titledetails&titleno=124485&disp=Deedbooks%2C+1792%2D1907%20%20&c olumns=*,0,0 > > Or, www.familysearch.org > Library > Family History Library Catalog > > > Place Search > Delaware (place) New York (part of) > New York, > Delaware > Land and Property > Deedbooks > > There are also mortgage books. I've copied all the Gaddis deeds and > > mortgages this way. Or, the books are in the courthouse in Delhi. > > Per "The Evolution of Delaware County New York Being a History of > its Land" > > "24 Feb 1770 - The Kortright Patent granted by King George III of > England to Lawrence Kortright and twenty-one others 22,000 acres in > > Albany County, Province of New York. (Affects part of present > Delaware County Towns of Kortright and Davenport") > > Further in the book it mentions the 21 others - Lawrence Kortright, > > Walter Franklin, James Franklin, Huybert Van Wagenen, Peter Byvanck, > > Cornelius Van Ranst, Nicholas Rosevelt, Isaac Van Duzen, Frederick > Fine, Benjamin Underhill, Peter Berrien, Peter VanRanst, Amos > Underhill, William Ustick, Jonathon Holmes, Richard Sharpe, Willet > Taylor, Baltus Van Kleeck, Gerret Abeel, Evert Byvanck, Thomas Ten > Eyck & Peter Schermerhorne as tenants in common and not as joint > tenants. It was recorded in Delhi Liber 67 of Deeds, beginning on > page 547 on Jan 20, 1869. It was originally recorded in New York > State Archives in Albany, NY. > > Hope this helps. Also, there is a Ten Eyck pond/lake in either > Davenport or Kortright. Can't remember which now. > > Patty > At 09:34 PM 7/10/2007, you wrote: > >Thanks Gary. > > > >I think the Teneicks are related and wonder if there is any > >information on Sarah and her family. I tried to locate them prior > to > >1840 in Delaware but haven't had luck. Any ideas? > > > >Also, I have found Hugh's pension application. He moved into the > >Harpersfield area before 1810 (he was a witness on a land > transaction > >in 1804 in Kortright). Despite this, I cannot find out how he > >received land himself. Is their a record of original owners of > plots > >of land in Kortright prior to 1810? When was the original patent > >distributed? > > > >-Marc > > To contact list administrator send email to > nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Marc, The deedbooks microfilmed by SLC go back to 1792. http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=124485&disp=Deedbooks%2C+1792%2D1907%20%20&columns=*,0,0 Or, www.familysearch.org > Library > Family History Library Catalog > Place Search > Delaware (place) New York (part of) > New York, Delaware > Land and Property > Deedbooks There are also mortgage books. I've copied all the Gaddis deeds and mortgages this way. Or, the books are in the courthouse in Delhi. Per "The Evolution of Delaware County New York Being a History of its Land" "24 Feb 1770 - The Kortright Patent granted by King George III of England to Lawrence Kortright and twenty-one others 22,000 acres in Albany County, Province of New York. (Affects part of present Delaware County Towns of Kortright and Davenport") Further in the book it mentions the 21 others - Lawrence Kortright, Walter Franklin, James Franklin, Huybert Van Wagenen, Peter Byvanck, Cornelius Van Ranst, Nicholas Rosevelt, Isaac Van Duzen, Frederick Fine, Benjamin Underhill, Peter Berrien, Peter VanRanst, Amos Underhill, William Ustick, Jonathon Holmes, Richard Sharpe, Willet Taylor, Baltus Van Kleeck, Gerret Abeel, Evert Byvanck, Thomas Ten Eyck & Peter Schermerhorne as tenants in common and not as joint tenants. It was recorded in Delhi Liber 67 of Deeds, beginning on page 547 on Jan 20, 1869. It was originally recorded in New York State Archives in Albany, NY. Hope this helps. Also, there is a Ten Eyck pond/lake in either Davenport or Kortright. Can't remember which now. Patty At 09:34 PM 7/10/2007, you wrote: >Thanks Gary. > >I think the Teneicks are related and wonder if there is any >information on Sarah and her family. I tried to locate them prior to >1840 in Delaware but haven't had luck. Any ideas? > >Also, I have found Hugh's pension application. He moved into the >Harpersfield area before 1810 (he was a witness on a land transaction >in 1804 in Kortright). Despite this, I cannot find out how he >received land himself. Is their a record of original owners of plots >of land in Kortright prior to 1810? When was the original patent >distributed? > >-Marc

Have you tried searching under the common surmane "Ten Eyck"? ~Valerie --- Meadowland PTO <pto4us@verizon.net> wrote: > Thanks Gary. > > I think the Teneicks are related and wonder if there > is any > information on Sarah and her family. I tried to > locate them prior to > 1840 in Delaware but haven't had luck. Any ideas? > > Also, I have found Hugh's pension application. He > moved into the > Harpersfield area before 1810 (he was a witness on a > land transaction > in 1804 in Kortright). Despite this, I cannot find > out how he > received land himself. Is their a record of > original owners of plots > of land in Kortright prior to 1810? When was the > original patent > distributed? > > -Marc > > > On Jan 15, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Gary Welch wrote: > > > There is a Hugh McGuire who served from NY in the > Revolution but, > > oddly, he > > doesn't appear to have ever applied for a pension. > In 1840 Sarah > > Teneick > > had both a male and a female in the 90-100 age > group in her household. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Meadowland PTO [mailto:pto4us@verizon.net] > > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:33 PM > > To: NYDELAWA@rootsweb.com > > Subject: [NYDELAWA] Unique Revolutionary War Vet > in Delaware in 1840 > > > > Hugh Maguire (or McGuire as spelling varied back > then), lived in > > Eastern Delaware (Davenport area) from just after > 1800 until his > > death sometime after 1840. Hugh has a rather > interesting story, as > > he was an estated Irishman who was > force-conscripted into the British > > army about 1775, but detested the purpose and > snuck away the first > > night encamped near New York City. He joined the > American forces and > > fought the rest of the War on the other side. > What I'm trying to > > discover is exactly when he died. I know he was > living with the > > Teneick family for the 1840 census (Sarah as > housewife) and was over > > 95 at that time; but I haven't seen his name on > any cemetery records, > > for example. > > > > -Marc > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NYDELAWA- > > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > To contact list administrator send email to > nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC

Thanks Gary. I think the Teneicks are related and wonder if there is any information on Sarah and her family. I tried to locate them prior to 1840 in Delaware but haven't had luck. Any ideas? Also, I have found Hugh's pension application. He moved into the Harpersfield area before 1810 (he was a witness on a land transaction in 1804 in Kortright). Despite this, I cannot find out how he received land himself. Is their a record of original owners of plots of land in Kortright prior to 1810? When was the original patent distributed? -Marc On Jan 15, 2007, at 12:08 PM, Gary Welch wrote: > There is a Hugh McGuire who served from NY in the Revolution but, > oddly, he > doesn't appear to have ever applied for a pension. In 1840 Sarah > Teneick > had both a male and a female in the 90-100 age group in her household. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Meadowland PTO [mailto:pto4us@verizon.net] > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 9:33 PM > To: NYDELAWA@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYDELAWA] Unique Revolutionary War Vet in Delaware in 1840 > > Hugh Maguire (or McGuire as spelling varied back then), lived in > Eastern Delaware (Davenport area) from just after 1800 until his > death sometime after 1840. Hugh has a rather interesting story, as > he was an estated Irishman who was force-conscripted into the British > army about 1775, but detested the purpose and snuck away the first > night encamped near New York City. He joined the American forces and > fought the rest of the War on the other side. What I'm trying to > discover is exactly when he died. I know he was living with the > Teneick family for the 1840 census (Sarah as housewife) and was over > 95 at that time; but I haven't seen his name on any cemetery records, > for example. > > -Marc > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYDELAWA- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I found this information at http://www.rootsweb.com/~nydutche/nylaw.htm It helps those who have been denied access to genealogical information at NY sites. Very helpful. Marita Gladson, M.A. MFT Exec. Director Saboba's Hope www.sabobamedicalcentre.net Fullerton, Ca 714-773-5172

You are correct, it is the Bob Tyler farm. After I wrote the email, I found my file and a picture of Bob Tyler and his wife. When I was there in 2002, Bob gave me the stone that my grandmother craved her name in prior to 1900. Dick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Bishop" <rbishop@larsenfarms.com> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 4:43 PM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY Dear Dick: I believe you may be referring to the Robert Tyler Farm. Salton is carved on a stone in front of the house. Your description of the couple and the timelines match. By the way, the farm is currently for sale. Bob Bishop -----Original Message----- From: Dick Dodge [mailto:rbdodge@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:13 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY I am curious to know if we are talking about the same Salton Farm. Unfortunately I've misplaced my file and map, so I have to go by memory. We live in Texas and I visited the farm about 3 or 4 years ago and met the current owner, an elderly gentleman and his wife. He told me that his father had bought the farm about 1912, perhaps you are related somehow. He told me that there was an owner between the Salton's and his father. This would fit as my great-grandfather, George Salton sold the farm before 1907 and moved his family to the "Pines" area of Walton. I don't remember the farm being at the end of a road. My best recollection is that we were on Maggie Hoag Road and there was a long driveway down to the farm house which had a stone fence in front of it. I have pictures of the farm and the gentleman and his wife. Dick Dodge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriett Schultz" <hschultz1@stny.rr.com> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY The farm in Terry Clove referred to here is in my family history. A Salton owned it prior to my grandfather buying it in 1912. It is situate at the end of TAIT HILL RD. I'm not sure but I think the farm at the foot of the hill was also owned by Saltons at one time. Harriett Schultz ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Dodge To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY I descend from the Salton (Saltoun) family from Peebles, Scotland. At a Salton reunion held at J Marshal Shaw's, August 19, 1920, Delancey, New York, "The Salton History" was read by Mrs. Agnes Salton Scott. She was also the author. It gives some insight to one family's journey from Scotland to a farm in Terry Clove. "The Salton History" Today I'm going to turn back the wheels of time, and I wish you to go with me to Scotland, the land of song and story, of beauty and romance. The name of Salton was not always spelled as it is today; instead it was Saltoun, pronounced Saltoon. Our ancestors fought in the days of Wallace and Bruce, the "Scottish chiefs." In the Southwestern part of Scotland, situated near the Tweed river is a town called Peebles. In the year of 1782 in a cozy cottage on one of its pleasant streets was born a baby boy. They named him John Salton. Three years later, or in 1785, in the same town, a winsome little lass was born. Her name was Jane Murray. Years speed by, and life is but a span, "From child to boy, from boy to man." In those years the town of Peebles has also been growing. There are many new houses added, one of which the door is open. Let us look within. There stands a man in the very prime of manhood. Have we not seen a resemblance to that face before? Why, yes, it is John Salton, who has more than fulfilled the promise of his boyhood. There is that stately form, noble brow, and dark blue eyes. He has been true to his boyhood's love, for there sits his little playmate, Jane Murray, now his beloved wife and the mother of his eight children, namely: Agnes, David, Jane, Alexander, Christina, Joanna, John, and William. David and Jane were twins. The scene changes. In the year of 1830, on the shores of Scotland is a group of people consisting of John Salton, his wife, their eight children and a step-grandfather, Noble by name. They have put their trust in God. The farewells have been said. We see them going step by step down the gang plank to embark on that great ship bound for America, in order that their children might have free soil to tread upon. No doubt there were tears shed as the hills of Scotland receded from view, for well they knew that in all probability they would never tread her shores again, or see the loved ones left behind. But, had they known of the unseen danger that lurked upon the ocean voyage, I doubt very much if we had been here today, for in mid-ocean the cry of fire was sounded, and you can well imagine what consternation was on that ship when it was learned that there was only a thin, pine partition between the fire and all the ammunition on board. When the alarm of the fire was given, my father being a boy of only eight years of age, was sitting on the floor eating his porridge and milk. That scene was always impressed upon his memory. He said some on board cursed and swore, others were wringing their hands and crying and others were praying. The captain ordered all the old men, women and children down in the cabin, and the younger men were stationed on deck. They tried to subdue the fire by carrying buckets of water across the deck to the place of fire, but the sea was so rough that they could only go a short distance and the water would be spilled over the deck, and it became so slippery that the men could not walk. They tried it again and again, but without avail. Meantime the fire was gaining headway, and it looked very much as if all on board would sleep beneath the waves. But God was on the ocean just the same as on the land, and the means or instrument that He used to put out the fire was our grandfather John Salton. He being a sailor in former years, suggested attaching a rope from the fore to the aft of the vessel, and each man take hold of the rope with the left hand and pass the bucket of water with his right hand to his neighbor. They did so, and by this means the fire was extinguished. After a few weeks, with all safe on board, that gallant ship sailed proudly into New York harbor. The Saltons at first went to Albany. From there to Delhi, Delaware County. I do not know by what means of transportation they arrived at Delhi, possibly by stage. I do know it was not by auto or airship. They lived a short time in Chandler house on Scotch Mountain, Town of Delhi, then came to Hamden. They had means enough to have bought what is know as "the Bagley property" in Delancey, but as they wished to engage in sheep raising as well as farming they traveled over the hill to Terry Clove and bought a large tract of land (from a Mr. Sherwood, I believe) upon which stood a log house. There was hardship as well as pleasure at the Salton home, for at the time the major part of the farm was nearly all primeval forest with the exception of a small clearing around the house, but by hard work they cleared the forest and made a pleasant and permanent home, known in after years as "the old Salton homestead. The new and more modern buildings built by the Saltons have replaced the old log house, and today not a vestige of it is left, neither are there any who bear the name of Salton left in Terry Clove, most of whom have passed to the Great Beyond. Shortly after coming here the Saltons united with a Presbyterian Church. in politics they were Republicans. Jane (Murray) Salton was always small, but like her husband, was full of ambition and energy, and all who came within their doors received a hearty welcome. There are a number of souvenirs in the possession of different branches of the old Salton family, some of which you may look at now. Here is a booklet showing some views of Peebles. I have been told that Peebles was a very pretty place. This view shows the old Tweed bridge which spans the river Tweed, in whose silvery waters the Salton boys (your fathers and mine) caught the salmon trout. Here is a linen stand cloth, woven by hands long since turned to dust. My initials, A. S., are on the same, wrought by whose hand I know not. And here is a silver coin, on the face of which is the portrait of King George III, also the date 1816. This coin belonged to my father. Into Gertrude Salton's had I place it today. And on my finger today I wear my Grandmother Salton's wedding ring. A slender, gold band with a beautiful amethyst stone setting, and, in the years to come whoever wears this ring, may they as well as all the Salton race honor the name of Salton, and revere the memory of the pure and beautiful romance of John Salton and Jane Murray, which began in far away Scotland and lasted till death. John Salton Sr., lived only about ten years after coming to America, and died November 23, 1839, aged 57 years and 8 months. Jane Murray, wife of John Salton, died October 18, 1858, aged 73 years, 2 months and 13 days. They are sleeping side by side in the old Flats Cemetery near Delhi village, and their descendants are scattered throughout the length and breadth of the land-New York, Connecticut, Virginia, West Virginia, Iowa, Nebraska, New Mexico, and California's sunny clime. I never saw either of my grandparents, they being dead before I was born, and the only portrait I have of them is a dim old story that hangs on memory's wall, told to me by my father. 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Dear Dick: I believe you may be referring to the Robert Tyler Farm. Salton is carved on a stone in front of the house. Your description of the couple and the timelines match. By the way, the farm is currently for sale. Bob Bishop -----Original Message----- From: Dick Dodge [mailto:rbdodge@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:13 PM To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY I am curious to know if we are talking about the same Salton Farm. Unfortunately I've misplaced my file and map, so I have to go by memory. We live in Texas and I visited the farm about 3 or 4 years ago and met the current owner, an elderly gentleman and his wife. He told me that his father had bought the farm about 1912, perhaps you are related somehow. He told me that there was an owner between the Salton's and his father. This would fit as my great-grandfather, George Salton sold the farm before 1907 and moved his family to the "Pines" area of Walton. I don't remember the farm being at the end of a road. My best recollection is that we were on Maggie Hoag Road and there was a long driveway down to the farm house which had a stone fence in front of it. I have pictures of the farm and the gentleman and his wife. Dick Dodge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harriett Schultz" <hschultz1@stny.rr.com> To: <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 11:18 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY The farm in Terry Clove referred to here is in my family history. A Salton owned it prior to my grandfather buying it in 1912. It is situate at the end of TAIT HILL RD. I'm not sure but I think the farm at the foot of the hill was also owned by Saltons at one time. Harriett Schultz ----- Original Message ----- From: Dick Dodge To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY I descend from the Salton (Saltoun) family from Peebles, Scotland. At a Salton reunion held at J Marshal Shaw's, August 19, 1920, Delancey, New York, "The Salton History" was read by Mrs. Agnes Salton Scott. She was also the author. It gives some insight to one family's journey from Scotland to a farm in Terry Clove. "The Salton History" Today I'm going to turn back the wheels of time, and I wish you to go with me to Scotland, the land of song and story, of beauty and romance. The name of Salton was not always spelled as it is today; instead it was Saltoun, pronounced Saltoon. Our ancestors fought in the days of Wallace and Bruce, the "Scottish chiefs." In the Southwestern part of Scotland, situated near the Tweed river is a town called Peebles. In the year of 1782 in a cozy cottage on one of its pleasant streets was born a baby boy. They named him John Salton. Three years later, or in 1785, in the same town, a winsome little lass was born. Her name was Jane Murray. Years speed by, and life is but a span, "From child to boy, from boy to man." In those years the town of Peebles has also been growing. There are many new houses added, one of which the door is open. Let us look within. There stands a man in the very prime of manhood. Have we not seen a resemblance to that face before? Why, yes, it is John Salton, who has more than fulfilled the promise of his boyhood. There is that stately form, noble brow, and dark blue eyes. He has been true to his boyhood's love, for there sits his little playmate, Jane Murray, now his beloved wife and the mother of his eight children, namely: Agnes, David, Jane, Alexander, Christina, Joanna, John, and William. David and Jane were twins. The scene changes. In the year of 1830, on the shores of Scotland is a group of people consisting of John Salton, his wife, their eight children and a step-grandfather, Noble by name. They have put their trust in God. The farewells have been said. We see them going step by step down the gang plank to embark on that great ship bound for America, in order that their children might have free soil to tread upon. No doubt there were tears shed as the hills of Scotland receded from view, for well they knew that in all probability they would never tread her shores again, or see the loved ones left behind. But, had they known of the unseen danger that lurked upon the ocean voyage, I doubt very much if we had been here today, for in mid-ocean the cry of fire was sounded, and you can well imagine what consternation was on that ship when it was learned that there was only a thin, pine partition between the fire and all the ammunition on board. When the alarm of the fire was given, my father being a boy of only eight years of age, was sitting on the floor eating his porridge and milk. That scene was always impressed upon his memory. He said some on board cursed and swore, others were wringing their hands and crying and others were praying. The captain ordered all the old men, women and children down in the cabin, and the younger men were stationed on deck. They tried to subdue the fire by carrying buckets of water across the deck to the place of fire, but the sea was so rough that they could only go a short distance and the water would be spilled over the deck, and it became so slippery that the men could not walk. They tried it again and again, but without avail. Meantime the fire was gaining headway, and it looked very much as if all on board would sleep beneath the waves. But God was on the ocean just the same as on the land, and the means or instrument that He used to put out the fire was our grandfather John Salton. He being a sailor in former years, suggested attaching a rope from the fore to the aft of the vessel, and each man take hold of the rope with the left hand and pass the bucket of water with his right hand to his neighbor. They did so, and by this means the fire was extinguished. After a few weeks, with all safe on board, that gallant ship sailed proudly into New York harbor. The Saltons at first went to Albany. From there to Delhi, Delaware County. I do not know by what means of transportation they arrived at Delhi, possibly by stage. I do know it was not by auto or airship. They lived a short time in Chandler house on Scotch Mountain, Town of Delhi, then came to Hamden. They had means enough to have bought what is know as "the Bagley property" in Delancey, but as they wished to engage in sheep raising as well as farming they traveled over the hill to Terry Clove and bought a large tract of land (from a Mr. Sherwood, I believe) upon which stood a log house. There was hardship as well as pleasure at the Salton home, for at the time the major part of the farm was nearly all primeval forest with the exception of a small clearing around the house, but by hard work they cleared the forest and made a pleasant and permanent home, known in after years as "the old Salton homestead. The new and more modern buildings built by the Saltons have replaced the old log house, and today not a vestige of it is left, neither are there any who bear the name of Salton left in Terry Clove, most of whom have passed to the Great Beyond. Shortly after coming here the Saltons united with a Presbyterian Church. in politics they were Republicans. Jane (Murray) Salton was always small, but like her husband, was full of ambition and energy, and all who came within their doors received a hearty welcome. There are a number of souvenirs in the possession of different branches of the old Salton family, some of which you may look at now. Here is a booklet showing some views of Peebles. I have been told that Peebles was a very pretty place. This view shows the old Tweed bridge which spans the river Tweed, in whose silvery waters the Salton boys (your fathers and mine) caught the salmon trout. Here is a linen stand cloth, woven by hands long since turned to dust. My initials, A. S., are on the same, wrought by whose hand I know not. And here is a silver coin, on the face of which is the portrait of King George III, also the date 1816. This coin belonged to my father. Into Gertrude Salton's had I place it today. And on my finger today I wear my Grandmother Salton's wedding ring. A slender, gold band with a beautiful amethyst stone setting, and, in the years to come whoever wears this ring, may they as well as all the Salton race honor the name of Salton, and revere the memory of the pure and beautiful romance of John Salton and Jane Murray, which began in far away Scotland and lasted till death. John Salton Sr., lived only about ten years after coming to America, and died November 23, 1839, aged 57 years and 8 months. Jane Murray, wife of John Salton, died October 18, 1858, aged 73 years, 2 months and 13 days. They are sleeping side by side in the old Flats Cemetery near Delhi village, and their descendants are scattered throughout the length and breadth of the land-New York, Connecticut, Virginia, West Virginia, Iowa, Nebraska, New Mexico, and California's sunny clime. I never saw either of my grandparents, they being dead before I was born, and the only portrait I have of them is a dim old story that hangs on memory's wall, told to me by my father. 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Dick, When you say the Pines. Are you referring to Pines Brook Rd in Walton NY? Sue >From: "Dick Dodge" <rbdodge@sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: nydelawa@rootsweb.com >To: "Lester E Gregory" <legregory@mkl.com>, <nydelawa@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [NYDELAWA] Scots to NY >Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 10:24:12 -0500 > >Yes, Jack Salton married Genevieve McCall. Jack was the son of Howard David >Salton and Hazel Holley. Howard David Salton was the brother of my >grandmother, Edith Salton Churchill. They all descended from the John >Salton >written about in my posting. > >Jack's parents, Howard and Hazel, had a farm down in what is known as the >"Pines". I'm aware of three children of Jack Salton; Sharon, David, and >Brain. > >Dick Dodge > > > To contact list administrator send email to nydelawa-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >NYDELAWA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507

I'm on shaky ground here, hopefully this helps. As you would be driving out of Walton, Breakstone's would be on your left, you would turn right to go up to Moore's Park, and turn left to go out to what I am calling the Pines. I would guess it was about a mile out of Walton. I think it was Route 10. Does this make any sense? Dick

My name was correct. Little is spelt with TT in our family. Louise Little

I apologize to Louise for spelling her name wrong in the last notice --- it should be Louise Liddle. Joyce Riedinger - joyce@dcnyhistory.org Delaware County NY Genealogy and History Site http://www.dcnyhistory.org