A motion approved by 10 - 1 vote of the Advisory Board of the USGenWeb Project stated in part: "- that Tim Stowell be immediately suspended (removed temporarily) from membership in The USGenWeb Project for a period of 60 days or until the results of a removal hearing are known. - that immediate steps be taken to hold elections for State Coordinator in Georgia as soon as such elections can be arranged with the EC. - that immediate steps be taken to hold elections for State Coordinator in North Dakota as soon as such elections can be arranged with the EC. ... The removal hearing(s) shall be conducted by the Advisory Board. ================================================ You may contact them if you wish - look for Advisory Board - at http://www.usgenweb.com/ ================================================ This is of course a Judge Roy Bean court - 'We'll give you a fair trial before we hang you'. Supposedly this won't effect my county sites - except they won't be USGenWeb sites. They will be either independent or some other affiliation. For those who've encouraged me, I thank you. Hopefully this will end the meanness of these folks and they can turn on each other. Tim
At 11:38 AM 5/27/04 -0500, you wrote: >Tim, > >I'm not an expert on this but I'll try to give you my best recollection. The >western states use a "Range" method (or something like that). The "meres and >bounds" method is far older and was brought from England and used here for >many years. It consists of tracing the boundary of the piece of land in >question by lengths and directions. If you study old deeds from the 19th >century you will find items like the following: > >"Beginning in the north bounds of the highway at the southeast corner of >lands of which Anthony Case died seized and running thence North 3 Chains >87-1/2 Links. Thence west 20 Chains 64-2/3 Links. Thence South 3 Chains >87-1/2 Links. Thence East 20 Chains 64-2/3 Links to the place of beginning. >Containing Eight acres of land more or less." > >To save you the trouble: chain = 66 feet; link 7.92 inches > >You can see one of the flaws in the system from the above quote. The >reference to the corner of a lot owned by an Anthony Case at the time of his >death. Surely that reference will lose its usefulness with time - at least >for legal purposes. From a genealogy point of view I found it fascinating. > >The system was subject to other serious flaws due to the incorporation of >rocks, trees, barns and other non permanent objects as reference landmarks - >all of which could disappear over time. > >Check this site for a more detailed explanation: >http://archives.utah.gov/referenc/land.htm > >Hope this helps. > >Best Regards, > >Mike McGraw > Thanks Mike for the detailed explanation. Another interesting thing, I thought, in your description above - how precise were their measurements - I mean 2/3 of 7.92 inches? So suffice it to say the Town of Truxton or the Town of Virgil would be of different sizes? No real rhyme or reason to the sizes? Tim
I am looking for the families of William Russell, born abt. 1776 in Conn. He was in the Cortland Co., NY census in 1850. I think one of his children was Zina Russell, born about 1803 in Conn. All of Zina's children were born in NY. Does any one have any info on them? Melba
This young lady was very hard to find. The complete name "Annette Emeline Sweet" born 18 Dec 1838 in NY. I have finally found her in the H/H of Eber Sweet in the 1850 census of Cortland Co., NY. Eber 53 Shoemaker b. NY Lydia 47 b. VT Louisa 16 b. NY Emeline 12 b. NY Miranda 9 b. NY John 6 b. NY cannot make out the name of the last daughter age 4 In 1860 Annette Emeline is in the H/H of Andrew J. Sweet in Sharon, Walworth Co., WI. Also in the H/H are Mary his wife and son. Andrew 31 Tinsmith born in NY Mary 25 NY Annette 21 Tailoress NY Eugene 6 months WI In 1870 census AndrewJ., Mary and son, Frank are in Clinton, Rock Co., WI. Annette Emeline married Luther Otis Robinson in 1862 in Darien, Walworth Co., WI. She states on marriage certificate her residence is Clinton. Annette and Luther are in the census of Darien in 1870. Sometime between 1870 and 1880 Annette and Luther returned to Cortland Co., for a visit. While there they had their picture taken at "GRAY's Photograph Rooms, Marathon, NY." They may have returned with Andrew J. and family, but they returned to Janesville, Rock Co., WI. Annette Emeline named her first son Andrew J. Andrew J. Sweet and Mary are back in Cortland Co., NY for the 1880 census. Who is Eber Sweet and how are he and Andrew J. Sweet related? I would appreciate any info on this family. Helen
Tim, I'm not an expert on this but I'll try to give you my best recollection. The western states use a "Range" method (or something like that). The "meres and bounds" method is far older and was brought from England and used here for many years. It consists of tracing the boundary of the piece of land in question by lengths and directions. If you study old deeds from the 19th century you will find items like the following: "Beginning in the north bounds of the highway at the southeast corner of lands of which Anthony Case died seized and running thence North 3 Chains 87-1/2 Links. Thence west 20 Chains 64-2/3 Links. Thence South 3 Chains 87-1/2 Links. Thence East 20 Chains 64-2/3 Links to the place of beginning. Containing Eight acres of land more or less." To save you the trouble: chain = 66 feet; link 7.92 inches You can see one of the flaws in the system from the above quote. The reference to the corner of a lot owned by an Anthony Case at the time of his death. Surely that reference will lose its usefulness with time - at least for legal purposes. From a genealogy point of view I found it fascinating. The system was subject to other serious flaws due to the incorporation of rocks, trees, barns and other non permanent objects as reference landmarks - all of which could disappear over time. Check this site for a more detailed explanation: http://archives.utah.gov/referenc/land.htm Hope this helps. Best Regards, Mike McGraw -----Original Message----- From: Tim Stowell [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 6:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYCORTLA] townships question Switching gears, I've a question about townships in New York. In the western states land is also divided into townships - each township is divided into sections - usually 36 varying depending on the boundaries of the county, each section is 1 mile square also divided, into quarter sections and even those into 4 more sections (NE corner, SW, NW, SE corner) so that it doesn't take long to have a rather long winded description of one's land. In looking at the 1937 land map of Madison County, it didn't appear that New York had the same system. I read last night that supposedly back east (this particular book about Wisconsin) land was divided by something I've heard of before but don't understand - metes and bounds. Anyone? Tim ==== NYCORTLA Mailing List ==== ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237
Switching gears, I've a question about townships in New York. In the western states land is also divided into townships - each township is divided into sections - usually 36 varying depending on the boundaries of the county, each section is 1 mile square also divided, into quarter sections and even those into 4 more sections (NE corner, SW, NW, SE corner) so that it doesn't take long to have a rather long winded description of one's land. In looking at the 1937 land map of Madison County, it didn't appear that New York had the same system. I read last night that supposedly back east (this particular book about Wisconsin) land was divided by something I've heard of before but don't understand - metes and bounds. Anyone? Tim
Does anyone access to this: From History of Cortland County edited by H. P. Smith, D. Mason & Co. publishers, Syracuse NY 1885 Cortland County Biographical Index Hitchcock, Caleb Bardano 472 Thank you Anne ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
I was informed today that the Cortland site - at least one portion of it produces a Googlewhack. A what, I said? The reply - A Googlewhack is when two words are entered into Google, and there is only one website found with those 2 words on it. I entered "buckskin loggings" and only your page appeared!(www.rootsweb.com/~nycortla/smhist/shchap22.htm) Thats one page out of over 3 billion! ================= How about them apples! Tim Stowell [email protected] Chattanooga, TN The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.
Hello all - it has been a long time since I have posted my line from Cortland Co. NY. By the way, my direct line is thru the youngest son, John Stewart Dot Children of Joseph Stewart: Osker (Oscar) Stewart (s/o Joseph Stewart & Betsy Souls), The obituary of Alvah T. (S/o Joseph Stewart and Betsey Soules) said there were 5 children from this union. Frank Soules (from the Betsey Soules line) led us to the very probable 5th child not listed on the 1850 Truxton, Cortland Co. NY census - buried in the Truxton Village Cemetery, Osker (Oscar) Stewart, son of Joseph M. and Betsey, d. Nov. 1, 1842, age 3 yrs, 1 mo, 10 days (according to the perpetual calender, page 145-148, The Cambribridge Factfinder, that would make him born probably Dec 10, 1840). 1. Solomon Stewart (s/o Joseph Stewart & Betsy Souls), b. abt 1841, Truxton, Courtland Co., NY. Joined Co. "D", of the 34th Infantry Regiment of the Illinois Volunteers, Sept. 7, 1861. He is described on the Muster sheet as Private, age 21, height 5 ft. 9 inches, hair brown, eyes black, complexion dark, single, farmer, born Cortland County NY, and giving his residene as Amboy. The same Muster sheet noted that Solomon Stewart "died of disease at Nashville, TN March 29, 1862." I am told that there is a memorial tomb stone for Solomon Stewart at the cemetery in Amboy, Lee County ILL. 2. Alvah Stewart (s/o Joseph Stewart & Betsy Souls), b. abt 1843, Truxton, Cortland Co., NY. died July 6, 1911, Marshall Co. Iowa.[I believe that this is the brother of our greatfather John Bolton Stewart, and whom he named his first natural son for.] Alva [Trowbridge] joined Co. "D", of the 34thInfantry Regiment of the Illinois Volunteers, Sept. 7, 1861. He is described on the Muster sheets as Private, age19, height 5 ft, 9 inches, hair brown, eyes Hazel, complexion light, single, farmer, b. Cortland Co. NY, giving residence at Prairieville, Lee County, ILL. Alva Trowbridge Stewart married Dora Randall (d/o L.W. Randall), May 23, 1872. Alva T. Stewart died of natural causes in Marshalltown, Iowa, Jul 6, 1911. Children include William R., Charles H., Burt A, Neillie. 3. William Stewart (s/o Joseph Stewart & Betsy Souls), b. abt 1845, Truxton, Cortland Co., NY. Joined Company "A", 75th Infantry, as a Private, age 18, Sept 2, 1862, height 5 ft 8 inches, hair light, eyes light, complexion light, single, farmer, b. Cortland, Truxton, NY, and gave residence as Dixon, Lee County, ILL. William H. Stewart is listed on a note on the same muster sheet as dying "of disease at Evansville, IN, Dec 30, 1863." 4. John Stewart (s/o Jose ph Stewart & Betsy Souls),b. abt. 1849, Truxton, Cortland Co., NY. [I believe this to be our greatgrandfather John Bolten Stewart]. John B. Stewart joined Company "H", 3rd Illinois Calvalry, as Private, age 17, height 5 ft, 3 ½ inches, hair brown, eyes blue, complexion fair, farmer, born NY, and giving his residence as China, Lee County, ILL. John Bolton Stewart married first, Elizabeth Matilda (Lawless) Shely, a widow with a child, Pleasanton, Atascosa Co, TX, and married 2nd Mrs. Mary T. Morris in Jackson Co. OK. John Bolton died of natural causes while visiting in Mineral Wells, TX, March 28, 1910. Buried in Aaron Cemetery, Jackson County, and the tomb stone was moved to Altus Cemetery. Children from 1st marriage: John F. Shelly (s/o W.O. Shely & Elizabeth Matilda Lawless) b. Oct 21, 1871, adopted by John Bolton Stewart. Married Nina Myrtle Barnes. Ada May Stewart (d/o John B. Stewart & Elizabeth Matilda Lawless Shely), b. 1881, TX, married John Chism, Jackson Co, OK. Alva T. Stewart (s/o John B. Stewart & Elizabeth Matilda Lawless Shely), b. May 9, 1881, Pleasanton, Atascosa Co. TX, married Bell Barnes, Aug 31, 1902. Abby M. Stewart (d/o John B. Stewart & Elizabeth Matilda Lawless, Shely), b. 1887. Married C.M. "Charley" Cook. 5. Elisa Rose (d/o Jane ____ and _____ Rose from a previous marriage), b. abt 1844. 1880 Bureau Co. Census, there is a Joseph M. Stewart, listed as Depentent, living with daughter Eliza A. Watson, and husband, James. 6. Melvina Stewart (d/o Joseph Stewart & 2nd wife Jane Rose), b. 1852, (Cortland Co.?) NY, married Homer H. Cully (b. 1845), March 2, 1886, Henry County, ILL, she died Oct 1, 1925, he died between 1910 and 1920. They had one son, Clifford, b. Feb. 1887.
Passed along by a Mallory researcher: Angeline Mallory was daughter of Judge William Mallory, very early settler of Cortland co. She married Rev Alonzo Wood. Angeline Mallery 11 Nov 1810 Cortland NY d 12 Mar 1878 Courtland NY - Rev Alanzo Wood 1808 - 1874 They were apparently from Chesaning, MI and Cortland, NY. There is a 13 page detailed handwritten history of the Wood family, along with tintype photos of both Wood and Mallory family members. The Wood family was originally from Groton, Tompkins County, New York. The bidding ends on May 8th. Starting bid is $95, too rich for my blood. To view this bible please go to http://cgi.msn.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20926&Item=420884 0355&rd+1 Tim Stowell
The bulk of the book - "Reminiscences, anecdotes and statistics of the early settlers and the olden time in the town of Sherburne" - Chenango County, NY - Curtiss & White, Utica, 1862. by Joel Hatch is now on-line: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychenan/shr-ras.htm Quite an interesting book, an easy read. If one starts at the Preface listed on the title page and goes from there one can read directly through the portion of the book. There are all sorts of words - articles of food, perhaps customs - whatever, that I was not familiar with and not taking the time to look them up am just as clueless now as to what parallel, if any, is our modern equivalent. I'm missing a few pages in the beginning of the book and will be seeking those. I'll add that material once I get the "lost pages's" material. Tim PS - next work: Celebration of Sherburne's Centennial - 1893 - for Chenango; more history for Madison as well as a new work for Cortland.
Proofed and added letters 'J' and 'K' of the index of the 1899 History of Madison County. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymadiso/1899hist.htm I believe this has me more or less up to date with Madison County, shifting now to work with Chenango and Cortland, with an announcement for Cortland shortly. Tim
Chapter 14 - from the 1872 history of Madison county just went on line: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymadiso/1872-14.htm This chapter covers the Town of Sullivan. ---------------------------------------------- Proofed and added letters 'H' and 'I' of the index of the 1899 History of Madison County. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymadiso/1899hist.htm Several surnames cross county lines so please take a look to see if your family or particular person is listed there. Tim
Hi folks - hopping in briefly - asked previously on the Chenango County list with no reply, hoping that someone on one of these lists has the answer - if someone can answer this person's question would you kindly email them - not the list, with the answer? Because I've not a clue what the answer is. Thanks - Tim =============================== From: "Diane Toth" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: East Pharsalia Fire Station Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:34:51 -0500 I work with Bassett Healthcare/HealthWorks and will be taking our crew to East Pharsalia on Monday may 3 to do fire fighter screenings. Would you be able to give me the location of the fire station? We are coming from Cooperstown and it looks like we will be taking route 80. Thanks Diane Toth [email protected]
Seeking information on the Asa White family. 1860 Town of Solon 1183/1192 Asa White 44 NY Delila 40 NY Isaac 19 NY Peter 17 NY Susan 10 NY Juriel 8 NY Viola 1 NY McGrawville Cemetery: HOPKINS Ellen A.__wife of Peter White__d. November 4 , 1874__aged 23 yrs. Vilo__d. October 31 , 1874__aged 2 yrs.__(On the same stone as Ellen). Does anyone have any other information on this White family Thank you Anne ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!
Hi: I have had problems with your mail before. I believe it started just after I had installed Norton 2004. I will have to check my other e-mail source to see if the problem is in both. Talk with you later. TNX [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:03 AM Subject: NYCORTLA-D Digest V04 #21
From yesterday: Chapter 15 - from the 1872 history of Madison county just went on line: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymadiso/1872-15.htm I should have said it covered Smithfield. ---------------------------------------------- Tonight, Chapter 11 - from the same book joins its fellow chapters. It covers Lebanon and is chock full of names. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymadiso/1872-11.htm Tim
Hi, I am wondering if any one has any information on the CLEGG line in Cortland County. There was a John Clegg who immigrated in about 1830 to the US from England. Two of their children were Robert and John. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Melba Preece
My Outlook Express 6 removed your attachments from my mail. Have any ideas what is wrong? [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:03 AM Subject: NYCORTLA-D Digest V04 #21
Chapter 15 - from the 1872 history of Madison county just went on line: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymadiso/1872-15.htm Tim