Why? I realize that you may mean well but I need to know why you would suggest contacting that clan. Please give me a reasonable explanation as to why they would have a clue. The Oregon clan has actually missed the boat since the only possible way that even they would allow this to float was if and this is really iffy Hopestll was not born in 1741. It would have been impossible for Hopestill King to birth 10 children and be 60 years old to have the last of them. So I could bet the answer would be, "they don't", as far as I have researched that line of the oldest son born to Amos and Hopestill (AKA Haskins) King. If you know something that they don't please tell us all. For the fact that Amos spent the remainder of his live from shortly before 1790 (land records of Columbia County filed in Hudson) to his death in June 1839. His birth has been established as New Salem, Hampshire County, Massachusetts and he was a Revolutionary War Veteran of several campaigns. The original question was Amos was married twice with 15 children born to both women. The wife of Horace King born 1811, Mrs. Desire Jane Burton reminisces from Johnson County, Nebraska after the death of her husband in September 1885 on Todd Creek. which leads us to the fact that the first wife and mother Hopestill may have been deceased by 1798 when her name as Hopestill King was listed in the probate or the will of her father in Norfolk County, Massachusetts. It is quite clear that oldest son Nahum departed Columbia County at least by 1807 when he married 15 year old Sarepta Norton daughter of James Alexander and Dulianna (Howe) Norton born 1791 in Geneses County, New York (partitioned to Cattaraugus County 1810) In Albany, Albany County, New York. Nahum then took his young bride west of the Geneses River for a short time and the purpose is unknown. He then turns back to Rutland County, Vermont. The location of his brides maternal grandparents John and Chloe (Rowlson) Howe. This is where the first 2 daughters of his 16 children were born before he arrives on the Little Darby Creek, Phelps Township, Madison County, Ohio where there is the birth of third daughter Hannah in the spring of 1811. I wanted to know more about the second marriage to Miss Bassett and the names of her 9 children. For what it is worth Hopestill being older born 1741 could not have been the mother of those King children as she would have been 60 years old with the last of even 10 children she was supposed to have birthed. My own research proves that 6 known children born quickly to Amos and Hope were Nahum July 1783, William O. 1785, Amos Jr. 1787, Lovisa 1789, Lydia 1791, Isaac 1783 thus making the marriage just short of 10 years. Hopestill because of distance may not have informed her father of her death and or the will just was not changed. The grave has not been found to date (19 October 2009). The grave of Amos has not been found as well nor has that of the second Mrs. King. Daniel 3rd (Paternal Grandmother) Great Grandson of Nahum King who settled King's Valley Benton County (then Polk County) by leading his 9 surviving children up the Luckiamute River from the Willamette Valley on 17 April 1846. ----- Original Message ----- From: <mottob@comcast.net> To: <nycolumb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: Re: [NYCOLUMB] NYCOLUMB Digest, Vol 4, Issue 54 > Try Kings Valley, Benton Co., OR