Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my great-great-grandparents emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the first record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in Moira, Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration records are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to research them? Thanks. Clare Higgins

Clare, Go to http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html this is the Canadian Government sponsored genealogy web site with databases you can search, genealogy tips, etc. and it's free. Happy hunting! Maryann -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Clare Higgins Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:06 AM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com; nycolumb@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-IRISH] Question: Canada Immigration Records Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my great-great-grandparents emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the first record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in Moira, Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration records are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to research them? Thanks. Clare Higgins ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Clare, as far as I know, the US gov't didn't start keeping Canadian Border Crossings until about 1898. Sorry. Perhaps someone else knows more. Elsie (Scharpf) Saar Quilting: http://community.webshots.com/user/saarlc Genealogy research American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Higgins" <clarehiggins@comcast.net> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com>; <nycolumb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:05 AM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] Question: Canada Immigration Records > Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my > great-great-grandparents > emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the > first > record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in > Moira, > Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration > records > are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to > research > them? Thanks. > > > > Clare Higgins > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

***sigh*** Too bad! Thanks, Elsie. I wonder if someone can help me with the following: I found an 1850 passenger list at the NYC Municipal Archives showing a Morris Higgins arriving in the U.S. from Ireland. He was the right age to be my GGGF. My GGGM's name wasn't on the list (her name was Catherine). Then someone sent me a June 1850 census from Moira, Franklin County, New York. It showed a Morris and Catherine Higgins living there with a daughter, Margaret, 2, and another daughter Honora, 1 month old. It was suggested to me that these weren't my GGGPs, but how likely is it that there'd be two married couples with exactly the same first and last names? But if Catherine came with Morris, why was his name alone on the passenger list? Next thing I have is an 1853 passenger list showing Catherine Higgins arriving in the U.S. with her three sons, Morris, Cornelius, and John. I am absolutely positive that this is my GGGM. Those are the names of her and Morris' children. It looks like one of two things could've happened: (1) Morris came over alone in 1850 and sent for Catherine and the kids 3 years later, and the Moira couple aren't my GGGPs, or (2) Morris and Catherine came here together in 1850, they are the Moira couple, and Catherine went back to get the boys in 1853. I would like to hear some opinions on all this. Thanks, everybody. Clare -----Original Message----- From: nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elsie Saar Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:31 AM To: nycolumb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYCOLUMB] Question: Canada Immigration Records Clare, as far as I know, the US gov't didn't start keeping Canadian Border Crossings until about 1898. Sorry. Perhaps someone else knows more. Elsie (Scharpf) Saar Quilting: http://community.webshots.com/user/saarlc Genealogy research American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Higgins" <clarehiggins@comcast.net> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com>; <nycolumb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:05 AM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] Question: Canada Immigration Records > Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my > great-great-grandparents > emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the > first > record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in > Moira, > Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration > records > are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to > research > them? Thanks. > > > > Clare Higgins > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Clare, I'm not sure whether you are looking for information about Canada or information about the homeland of your relatives. This email may not address your real question, but I hope it turns out to be useful. An alien who comes to the US could sign a Declaration of Intent and later be granted a Naturalization at any county seat. Most often these would happen in the county in which the person lived, but not necessarily. A person who lived at the edge of a county might be closer to the adjoining county's seat. Or, they might be visiting a relative in a different part of the state and sign the papers while they were there. Records of these events were kept locally. I suggest that you start at the Franklin County Clerk's Office. Those two documents should be helpful to you. Cliff Clare Higgins wrote: >Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my great-great-grandparents >emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the first >record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in Moira, >Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration records >are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to research >them? Thanks. > > > >Clare Higgins > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi, Cliff. I'm trying to determine exactly where my GGGPs landed after they emigrated from Ireland. I would love to find a copy of the passenger list of the ship they came in and find their names on it. Thanks for the tips! Clare -----Original Message----- From: nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Lamere Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:12 PM To: nycolumb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYCOLUMB] Question: Canada Immigration Records Clare, I'm not sure whether you are looking for information about Canada or information about the homeland of your relatives. This email may not address your real question, but I hope it turns out to be useful. An alien who comes to the US could sign a Declaration of Intent and later be granted a Naturalization at any county seat. Most often these would happen in the county in which the person lived, but not necessarily. A person who lived at the edge of a county might be closer to the adjoining county's seat. Or, they might be visiting a relative in a different part of the state and sign the papers while they were there. Records of these events were kept locally. I suggest that you start at the Franklin County Clerk's Office. Those two documents should be helpful to you. Cliff Clare Higgins wrote: >Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my great-great-grandparents >emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the first >record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in Moira, >Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration records >are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to research >them? Thanks. > > > >Clare Higgins > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Clare, there is a series of books called the Famine Immigrants. Perhaps they will help. They list Irish immigrants from 1846-1851. Don't know how complete they are, but certainly worth looking at. Good luck. Elsie Subject: Re: [NYCOLUMB] Question: Canada Immigration Records > Hi, Cliff. I'm trying to determine exactly where my GGGPs landed > after they > emigrated from Ireland. I would love to find a copy of the passenger > list of > the ship they came in and find their names on it. Thanks for the > tips! > > Clare >