Diane, Turns out the Turner that started this line comes from merry Olde England, as per this marriage record from the Albany Ref. Church: 15 Nov 1702; William Turner, ym, b. in O.E., liv. here; Abigael Bogaert, liv. at Katskil in Alb. Co. Their son, also Albany Ref. Church: 7 Jan 1705; at Kinderhoek: Helmes Johannes, of William Turner and Abigail Bogaart. Sp.: Helmes Jansse and wife Anna. Other children there, also West Camp Luth. and Zion Luth. And probably his wife at Kingston Ref. Ch.: 1706 Aug 11; Annetie; Gysbert Oosterhout, Marytie Bogaart; Sp.: Jan Oosterhout, Antie Ploeg. I gave you their son from Linlithgo Ref. Ch.: 21 May 1727; Gysbert; Helm Dorner, Anneke; Sp.: Gysbert Oosterhoudt, Marytje. But he must have died, because later also at Linlithgo (mis-transcribed): 19 May 1742; Geisbert; Helm Korner, Anneke Oosterhout; Sp.: Jan Decker, Beletje Decker. Frederick was baptized at Churchtown, just a few miles east, then Isaac was at West Copake, just a few more miles east of that. Frederick’s mother was named Margaretha in the bapt. record, and Gysbert & Margaretha also sponsored another child at Churchtown, so this isn’t the Eva Kleyn at West Copake years later. Eva may be a second wife. Margaretha is possibly a Schmidt/Smith as per the sponsors: 4 Feb 1767: Frederich ; Geisbert Dorner, Margaretha, Sp.: Jacob Schmid, Magdalena Schmid. Isaac doesn’t show after his baptism in any of the Ref. Church records I have, which is a lot of them, unless his name is even more mangled than some of these records. I can see why you need a little more to link from Columbia Co. to Wayne Co., PA. (Sorry I had these Turners from Germany, but you have Isaac from France on your web-site, so I guess they’re taking a European tour!) Jim

Hi Jim, and thanks for the note and info. Yes, I did have all this from a few months ago when a big Turner exchange went on. My problem was I did not have Geisbert b 1742 with Gysbert 1727. Looked over the info you just sent (apparently 1st time I did not get the picture) and in/out-ed all the appropriate folks. I also had 2 Freds for Geisbert 1742 - one w each wife, so fixed that as well. Whew! Well, my Isaac b 1788 could possibly have ambled down to Westchester Co. My problem, however, is there are Turner families there but not a lot of info on them and no Isaac to fit. It could be supposed my Isaac a French heritage that immigrated long b/f Isaac was born and his being born in Paris could all be a misunderstanding in our family. How about that for a stretch! My family lore also said he went to the Mid-West, wherever that is, and was married at least once b/f. I believe I have found a son from another marr. who lived right next door to Isaac in 1850 census. Again, thanks for reiterating the info - Diane * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/ ~~~~~ Speak kind words/hear kind echoes ~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of James Harder Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 3:54 AM To: nycolumb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYCOLUMB] TURNER - GYSBERT/FREDRICK/ISAAC Diane, Turns out the Turner that started this line comes from merry Olde England, as per this marriage record from the Albany Ref. Church: 15 Nov 1702; William Turner, ym, b. in O.E., liv. here; Abigael Bogaert, liv. at Katskil in Alb. Co.