This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KenMillion4711 Surnames: Van Vleek, Van Wie, Clapper, Bashford, Smith, Ham, Palmer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4945/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for info on the family of John H. & Mariah Van Vleek: 1850 Census, Stockport, transcribed as Van Olak [Van Clak] 1860 Census, Hillsdale, transcribed as Van Clare 1870 Census, Stockport, clearly written Van Clake 1880 Census, Claverack, clearly written Van Clake 1900 Census, Claverack, clearly written John H. Van Vleek, in the household of son-in-law William H. Van Wie Children: 1. Catherine "Kate": b. abt 1848, in the household 1850-1870, no trace after that 2. Lavina: b. abt 1850, m. Andrew M. Clapper; son Floyd spelled the name Klapper on his WWI Draft Registration & was in MD, 1920, & in Beacon, NY, 1930. 3. Margaret: b. Nov 1851, m. William Henry Van Wie. In Claverack in 1920. No children, but adopted Maggie Kornfeldt, b. Apr 1887 4. Mary Anna: b. abt 1853, m. A. Martin Smith. In Claverack through 1930. No children, but apparently adopted Minnie Kornfelt, b. Jan 1884, who m. Floyd Shutts. The family is still in Claverack, 1930. 5. John Henry: b. 1855, m. Amelia Splitburger, moved to Norfolk, VA 6. Maria: b. abt 1857, married/divorced Edward L. Bashford. 1880 Census, in the home of Biley Bashford, Chatham, as Maria Bashford, and also enumerated in Saratoga Co as Maria Vanvleek, in the home of William Van Wie. At least one daughter, Lillian Bashford, m. Joseph Francis Gangloff. 7. Elizabeth: b. abt 1859, m. Frank Van Wie, William's brother. In Claverack in 1880, no trace after that. 8. Sarah Janet: b. Oct 1862, m. Dr Elton John Palmer, s/o Civil War casualty Jacob Coleman Palmer & Mary Elton. It's the names she gave her sons that's driving this search for the ancestors of the first John H. & Mariah Van Vleek/Clake (see below). Dr. Elton Palmer d. bef 1920, & his widow is still in Claverack in 1930. 9. Ada: b. Dec 1866, m. Albert John Ham. Five children, lived in Bridgeport, CT 1920, no trace after that. Name later spelled Hamm. 10. Frank: b. abt 1868. in parents' household, 1880, Claverack, no trace after that. Sarah Janet (Van Vleek) Palmer gave her sons the following names, the ones in CAPITALS have no connection to her husband's Palmer/Elton families - assuming therefore they point to the ancestry of the original John H. & Mariah Van Vleek/Clake: Harold Coleman Palmer, b. 1880 Albert GEIGER Palmer, b. Oct 1884 Allan ROSSMAN Palmer, b. Mar 1887 Frank VAN VLEEK Palmer, b. Jul 1888 Oscar ZIMMERMAN Palmer, b. Sep 1889 Clarence BEDFORD Palmer, b. Mar 1892 Donald CAPEN Palmer, b. Oct 1897 ROELIF ELTINGE Palmer, b. Apr 1899 There were 9 Rossman families in Columbia Co in 1790, the family of Stephen & Rachel (Briant) Bedford moved into the area in the 1770s, and the original Roelif Eltinge died in New Paltz in 1795 - looking for the links from these families to John H. & Mariah Van Vleek, who were both born in the 1820s. I have no clue where the names Geiger, Zimmerman or Capen fit in. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.