Richard, There is a well-researched Wielaer/Wheeler genealogy at Rootsweb. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=gwheelertree&id=I1 1171 There is no known record of John's birth or baptism. I agree with the reasoning for the placement of John as found at the above. Jim -----Original Message----- From: nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Richard Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:01 PM To: List, Columbia County Subject: [NYCOLUMB] John Wheeler Hello All, I have a John/Jan Wheeler (Wieler) who was baptized on 10 Feb 1740. His parents were John Wheeler & Elizabeth Wheeler. I have him married to Maria Cooper on 23 Nov 1768. Maria was Baptized in the Albany DRC on 26 Aug 1750. I have 2 children for them baptized in the Kinderhook Reformed Church. I have another John/Jan Wheeler (Wieler). He married Lea Woodcock about 1762. Lea was baptized on 18 Oct 1741 in Kinderhook. John and 8 children baptized in the Kinderhook Reformed Church. When was the John Wheeler who married Lea Woodcock born and who were his parents? Richard ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello All, I have a John/Jan Wheeler (Wieler) who was baptized on 10 Feb 1740. His parents were John Wheeler & Elizabeth Wheeler. I have him married to Maria Cooper on 23 Nov 1768. Maria was Baptized in the Albany DRC on 26 Aug 1750. I have 2 children for them baptized in the Kinderhook Reformed Church. I have another John/Jan Wheeler (Wieler). He married Lea Woodcock about 1762. Lea was baptized on 18 Oct 1741 in Kinderhook. John and 8 children baptized in the Kinderhook Reformed Church. When was the John Wheeler who married Lea Woodcock born and who were his parents? Richard

Hope you are safe! Lots of rain in such a short period of time. It has been over 100 for the past 22 days here in Redding, California. It was 113 for two days. Our summers are always hot, but we have low humidity and it cools off at night. Enjoy you genealogy informaion and history 'lessons'. My families (SMITH-MOUL-BASSETT-NELSON) were in Rensselaer. Columbia and Saratoga counties in the early 1800 or before. Your Feb. 2009 informaion about Dutch names was very helpful. My gr gr grandfather was Peter SMITH Jr. so I thought his father must be Sr. Your informaion has me searching in other directions too. My gr grandfather was Peter P. SMITH, b. 1822, may have used "P" as his middle initial because his father was also Peter. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Mary (SMITH) ELKINS > Kinderhook got 5" of rain yesterday. New Lebanon got 4½". Other parts > of the county got significant rain. As of this morning, 59 roads were > closed in the county due to flooding. Train service from the city of > Hudson southward had been halted for the same reason. > > http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=826088&category=New%20York%20State&BCCode=&newsdate=7/30/2009 > > Cliff Lamere > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using SnowCrest WebMail. http://www.snowcrest.net

Kinderhook got 5" of rain yesterday. New Lebanon got 4½". Other parts of the county got significant rain. As of this morning, 59 roads were closed in the county due to flooding. Train service from the city of Hudson southward had been halted for the same reason. http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID=826088&category=New%20York%20State&BCCode=&newsdate=7/30/2009 Cliff Lamere

Google Earth has it labeled as Middle Ground Flats. Hope that helps. Elsie (Scharpf) Saar Quilting: http://community.webshots.com/user/saarlc Genealogy research American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Winchell" <DLDove22@verizon.net> To: <nycolumb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] Island Between Athens and Hudson > Does anyone know the name of the island in the Hudson River between > Athens and Hudson? I grew up in Columbia County, my mom lived in > Hudson for 20 years after that and I don't know the name of the > island. I was looking right at the island this past Saturday and > I'd really like to know. > > Thanks very much. > > Debbie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does anyone know the name of the island in the Hudson River between Athens and Hudson? I grew up in Columbia County, my mom lived in Hudson for 20 years after that and I don't know the name of the island. I was looking right at the island this past Saturday and I'd really like to know. Thanks very much. Debbie

I've been trying to find more information on Daniel Hoyt who lived in Hudson when his wife Nancy died in 1808. I've just read that a Daniel Haight began manufacturing satinets and woolen goods in Canaan, NY in 1830. Does anyone have any information on Daniel Haight? Could he be the same person as Daniel Hoyt of Hudson? Thank you. Debbie

I grew up near Linlithgow (north of Germantown) but never knew the names of any of the islands, although I loved them all. Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Attorney, historian, genealogist, grandmother 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ________________________________ From: Elsie Saar <saare@attglobal.net> To: Debra Winchell <DLDove22@verizon.net>; nycolumb@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:50:38 PM Subject: Re: [NYCOLUMB] Island Between Athens and Hudson Google Earth has it labeled as Middle Ground Flats. Hope that helps. Elsie (Scharpf) Saar Quilting: http://community.webshots.com/user/saarlc Genealogy research American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Winchell" <DLDove22@verizon.net> To: <nycolumb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:06 PM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] Island Between Athens and Hudson > Does anyone know the name of the island in the Hudson River between > Athens and Hudson? I grew up in Columbia County, my mom lived in > Hudson for 20 years after that and I don't know the name of the > island. I was looking right at the island this past Saturday and > I'd really like to know. > > Thanks very much. > > Debbie > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I would try the 1865 state census for Columbia Co., New York. You could order it from the LDS or contact the Columbia County Historical Society in Kinderhook, NY, to see if they could help you. Good luck. Elsie (Scharpf) Saar Quilting: http://community.webshots.com/user/saarlc Genealogy research American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer ----- Original Message ----- From: "The LeMire's" <btlemire@sbcglobal.net> To: <NYCOLUMB@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:23 AM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] Looking for Ovid Lemire's (Leamace) wife > > I'm trying to find out if Ovid was married before Louisa > Archaumbault. The reason is he had 2 kids before he and Louisa were > married in 1868. Francis (Frank) E (B: 1866) and Ovid A. (B: 1865) > I found Census info from 1860 that states Ovid Leamace (should be > lemire) lived in New Lebanon, Columbia, New York and worked as a > Blacksmith. It also states that he was married. Obviously in wasn't > Louisa. > This one has been a tough nut to crack! Ovid is my Great Great > Grandfather. > > Thank you very much for any info. > > Balir LeMire > > Vital stats below: > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ovid Lemire's Bio: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ovid's Mother: MarieTellier > Birth: Jun 17 1808 St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec > Death: Unknown (I need to work on finding the exact date) > > Ovid's Father: Joachim Lemyre Marsolet (Joachim Lemire) > Birth: May 20 1808 St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec > Death: May 28th 1855 > > Ovide lemyre dit Marsolet (Ovid lemire or Ovid Leamace according to > a 1860 Census) > Birth: Feb 8th 1838 St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec > Died: Aug 9th 1921 Fullerton, Nebraska > (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) > > Ovid's Spouse: Louisa Archaumbault > Born: Aug 7th 1832, St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec > Died: Oct 4th 1900 Fullerton, Nebraska > They were married in 1868 New Lebanon, Columbia, New York? > (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1850: Moved to Martinsville, Missouri. (90% sure) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1865 (roughly): Ovid lived in New York and had Frank and Ovid A. > He married Louisa in 1868 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ovid and Louisa's Kids: > Frank E Lemire (my Great Grandfather) > Born: Oct 1866, New Lebanon, Columbia, New York > Died: 18 May1926 Fullerton, Nebraska > (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) > > > Ovid A Lemire > Born: Oct 1865, New Lebanon, Columbia, New York > Died: Dec 18th 1926 > (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1868 (Roughly) moved to Martinsville (Dallas?), Harrison, Missouri > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Elsie, I appreciate the advice. Also, I figured I would order birth certificates for both Ovid A and Francis. I would hope their mother's info would here as well. Thank you, Blair ----- Original Message ---- From: Elsie Saar <saare@attglobal.net> To: nycolumb@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:46:08 AM Subject: Re: [NYCOLUMB] Looking for Ovid Lemire's (Leamace) wife Hi, I would try the 1865 state census for Columbia Co., New York. You could order it from the LDS or contact the Columbia County Historical Society in Kinderhook, NY, to see if they could help you. Good luck. Elsie (Scharpf) Saar Quilting: http://community.webshots.com/user/saarlc Genealogy research American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer ----- Original Message ----- From: "The LeMire's" <btlemire@sbcglobal.net> To: <NYCOLUMB@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:23 AM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] Looking for Ovid Lemire's (Leamace) wife > > I'm trying to find out if Ovid was married before Louisa > Archaumbault. The reason is he had 2 kids before he and Louisa were > married in 1868. Francis (Frank) E (B: 1866) and Ovid A. (B: 1865) > I found Census info from 1860 that states Ovid Leamace (should be > lemire) lived in New Lebanon, Columbia, New York and worked as a > Blacksmith. It also states that he was married. Obviously in wasn't > Louisa. > This one has been a tough nut to crack! Ovid is my Great Great > Grandfather. > > Thank you very much for any info. > > Balir LeMire > > Vital stats below: > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ovid Lemire's Bio: > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ovid's Mother: MarieTellier > Birth: Jun 17 1808 St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec > Death: Unknown (I need to work on finding the exact date) > > Ovid's Father: Joachim Lemyre Marsolet (Joachim Lemire) > Birth: May 20 1808 St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec > Death: May 28th 1855 > > Ovide lemyre dit Marsolet (Ovid lemire or Ovid Leamace according to > a 1860 Census) > Birth: Feb 8th 1838 St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec > Died: Aug 9th 1921 Fullerton, Nebraska > (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) > > Ovid's Spouse: Louisa Archaumbault > Born: Aug 7th 1832, St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec > Died: Oct 4th 1900 Fullerton, Nebraska > They were married in 1868 New Lebanon, Columbia, New York? > (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1850: Moved to Martinsville, Missouri. (90% sure) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1865 (roughly): Ovid lived in New York and had Frank and Ovid A. > He married Louisa in 1868 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ovid and Louisa's Kids: > Frank E Lemire (my Great Grandfather) > Born: Oct 1866, New Lebanon, Columbia, New York > Died: 18 May1926 Fullerton, Nebraska > (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) > > > Ovid A Lemire > Born: Oct 1865, New Lebanon, Columbia, New York > Died: Dec 18th 1926 > (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1868 (Roughly) moved to Martinsville (Dallas?), Harrison, Missouri > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm trying to find out if Ovid was married before Louisa Archaumbault. The reason is he had 2 kids before he and Louisa were married in 1868. Francis (Frank) E (B: 1866) and Ovid A. (B: 1865) I found Census info from 1860 that states Ovid Leamace (should be lemire) lived in New Lebanon, Columbia, New York and worked as a Blacksmith. It also states that he was married. Obviously in wasn't Louisa. This one has been a tough nut to crack! Ovid is my Great Great Grandfather. Thank you very much for any info. Balir LeMire Vital stats below: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ovid Lemire's Bio: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ovid's Mother: MarieTellier Birth: Jun 17 1808 St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec Death: Unknown (I need to work on finding the exact date) Ovid's Father: Joachim Lemyre Marsolet (Joachim Lemire) Birth: May 20 1808 St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec Death: May 28th 1855 Ovide lemyre dit Marsolet (Ovid lemire or Ovid Leamace according to a 1860 Census) Birth: Feb 8th 1838 St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec Died: Aug 9th 1921 Fullerton, Nebraska (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) Ovid's Spouse: Louisa Archaumbault Born: Aug 7th 1832, St Roch, L'assomption, Quebec Died: Oct 4th 1900 Fullerton, Nebraska They were married in 1868 New Lebanon, Columbia, New York? (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1850: Moved to Martinsville, Missouri. (90% sure) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1865 (roughly): Ovid lived in New York and had Frank and Ovid A. He married Louisa in 1868 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ovid and Louisa's Kids: Frank E Lemire (my Great Grandfather) Born: Oct 1866, New Lebanon, Columbia, New York Died: 18 May1926 Fullerton, Nebraska (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) Ovid A Lemire Born: Oct 1865, New Lebanon, Columbia, New York Died: Dec 18th 1926 (Buried in the Fullerton Cemetery) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1868 (Roughly) moved to Martinsville (Dallas?), Harrison, Missouri ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Correction: Yesterday, I misspoke about Chapinville, CT changing name to Taghkanic,Columbia,NY. It was changed to Taconic,CT., and is located there today, next to one of the Twin Lakes near the corner Junctions of Mass/CT/NY border area. Sorry for my confusion. It was a stop on the Central New England Railway. The Chapinville Village name was changed by the Post Office Department, because they had too many "ville's". I am still interested in the Chapin family, and the Loup family of Hillsdale, Columbia, NY. 1848-1857. Philyer Loup, (son of David & Anna Dudly (Loup), was a Miller by trade, with his wife, Fanny Maynard Chapin (Loup), (dau of Abiel Chapin & Fanny Maynard (Chapin). Phyler(sp), and Fanny had five children born Hillsdale. They were living in Stockport in 1860. Phyler died in Hudson, NY. after 1880. Some children went on to Erie, PA., and survivors on to Ohio. Best wishes, Bruce M. Smith

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: megsgeneo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/1898.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: This is wonderful. I will contact you offline and we can share our research. Margaret Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi. I tried to email Susan Mulvey from the ALHGP web site and Comcast told me that she wasn't their customer. Susan, I have a scan of a postcard of downtown Philmont to send you. Debbie

Perhaps someone can assist with some advice. I have late 1700, early 1800, Chapin family from Chapinville, CT. It is written in a Salisbury Historical site that Chapinville was started by a group of twenty Dutchmen from Rhinebeck, NY.which is close by. I am trying to find out more about Chapinville. Apparently it was between Rhinebeck/ North East, and Twin Lakes.and Salisbury CT. but after the Border dispute between NY and CT Chappenville became Taconic Town in NY, which may have included Hillsdale ? A Salisbury CT historical site lists this information, but the Columbia County site for the area doesn't have a glimmer of this history. Would anyone have a suggestion where I could discover more about this Chappinville, and its early people ?. That early in time I have begun to believe that the Village of Chapinville must have been named for part of this Chapin family. Thanks for any suggestions, or pointers. My Smiths were in Germantown and Clermont, Columbia, on the Manor. Best wishes, Bruce M. Smith, Bayside, CA.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: megsgeneo Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/1898.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you. I have Jacob Marquart who m. Catrena Coockenham abt 1780. Then I have Daniel Pultz who m. Leah Tippel in May 1781. I have not done much research on them yet. Margaret Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Thank you Elsie and Susan for your suggestions. I have not yet been to the Columbia Historical Society, so that is on my list of things to do! Grace

Hi Grace, There is a brief history of the Church at: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/chatham/chat_centre_meth.htm >From Ellis' History of Columbia County. There is a photo of the Church circa 1917. Susan ************************************************* "If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance." -- George Bernard Shaw Columbia County, NY Coordinator http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grace White" <gskwink@earthlink.net> To: <NYCOLUMB@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] Chatham Center church > Hello, > > I'm interested in gathering the history, photos, etc. of the Chatham > Center Methodist church. > > I am wondering if anyone on this list is connected or has information. > > I am new to the list, so not sure if this church has been discussed > before. > > Thanks!! > Grace > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: edw3ina Surnames: phelps slayton Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4883/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for parents of my ggrdfather George M. Phelps Chatauqua NY. gfather Robert Harvey Phelps b. 10 sep 1882 son of Geo M. Phelps and May Slayton, R.H. married Anna Miller, daug Nathale Mae b. 14 Aug 1914 Salamanca, NY. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Try the Columbia County Historical Society, just Google it. They have a lot of church records, etc. Good luck. Elsie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Grace White" <gskwink@earthlink.net> To: <NYCOLUMB@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:53 AM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] Chatham Center church > Hello, > > I'm interested in gathering the history, photos, etc. of the Chatham > Center Methodist church. > > I am wondering if anyone on this list is connected or has > information. > > I am new to the list, so not sure if this church has been discussed > before. > > Thanks!! > Grace > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >