Hi, Cliff. I'm trying to determine exactly where my GGGPs landed after they emigrated from Ireland. I would love to find a copy of the passenger list of the ship they came in and find their names on it. Thanks for the tips! Clare -----Original Message----- From: nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Lamere Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:12 PM To: nycolumb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYCOLUMB] Question: Canada Immigration Records Clare, I'm not sure whether you are looking for information about Canada or information about the homeland of your relatives. This email may not address your real question, but I hope it turns out to be useful. An alien who comes to the US could sign a Declaration of Intent and later be granted a Naturalization at any county seat. Most often these would happen in the county in which the person lived, but not necessarily. A person who lived at the edge of a county might be closer to the adjoining county's seat. Or, they might be visiting a relative in a different part of the state and sign the papers while they were there. Records of these events were kept locally. I suggest that you start at the Franklin County Clerk's Office. Those two documents should be helpful to you. Cliff Clare Higgins wrote: >Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my great-great-grandparents >emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the first >record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in Moira, >Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration records >are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to research >them? Thanks. > > > >Clare Higgins > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You could also try looking in border crossing records between Canada and the U.S. to find trace of them. Debbie Oct 1, 2009 10:13:06 PM, [1]nycolumb@rootsweb.com wrote: Clare, I'm not sure whether you are looking for information about Canada or information about the homeland of your relatives. This email may not address your real question, but I hope it turns out to be useful. An alien who comes to the US could sign a Declaration of Intent and later be granted a Naturalization at any county seat. Most often these would happen in the county in which the person lived, but not necessarily. A person who lived at the edge of a county might be closer to the adjoining county's seat. Or, they might be visiting a relative in a different part of the state and sign the papers while they were there. Records of these events were kept locally. I suggest that you start at the Franklin County Clerk's Office. Those two documents should be helpful to you. Cliff Clare Higgins wrote: >Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my great-great-grandparents >emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the first >record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in Moira, >Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration records >are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to research >them? Thanks. > > > >Clare Higgins > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [2]NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [3]NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:nycolumb@rootsweb.com 2. mailto:NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com

Clare, I'm not sure whether you are looking for information about Canada or information about the homeland of your relatives. This email may not address your real question, but I hope it turns out to be useful. An alien who comes to the US could sign a Declaration of Intent and later be granted a Naturalization at any county seat. Most often these would happen in the county in which the person lived, but not necessarily. A person who lived at the edge of a county might be closer to the adjoining county's seat. Or, they might be visiting a relative in a different part of the state and sign the papers while they were there. Records of these events were kept locally. I suggest that you start at the Franklin County Clerk's Office. Those two documents should be helpful to you. Cliff Clare Higgins wrote: >Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my great-great-grandparents >emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the first >record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in Moira, >Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration records >are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to research >them? Thanks. > > > >Clare Higgins > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pata41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4895.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: There is an obit for Rose M. Mulvey (Mrs. Thomas Mulvey) in the Niagara Falls Gazette (on an undated page for Dec. 1962) She died Dec. 15, 1962 in Lockport. It gives her survivors as daughters Mrs. Cornelius Canahan, Mrs. Audrey Waters, Mrs. John Pokrzyko & sons Thomas & Harold Mulvey. You can find this by searching for "Thomas Mulvey" Lockport using the all of the words search at http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html Thomas Mulvey is on the 1920 census with his parents Patrick & Sarah & four brothers in Lockport. You would probably have better luck posting on the Niagara Co. board for this family. Pat R. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

***sigh*** Too bad! Thanks, Elsie. I wonder if someone can help me with the following: I found an 1850 passenger list at the NYC Municipal Archives showing a Morris Higgins arriving in the U.S. from Ireland. He was the right age to be my GGGF. My GGGM's name wasn't on the list (her name was Catherine). Then someone sent me a June 1850 census from Moira, Franklin County, New York. It showed a Morris and Catherine Higgins living there with a daughter, Margaret, 2, and another daughter Honora, 1 month old. It was suggested to me that these weren't my GGGPs, but how likely is it that there'd be two married couples with exactly the same first and last names? But if Catherine came with Morris, why was his name alone on the passenger list? Next thing I have is an 1853 passenger list showing Catherine Higgins arriving in the U.S. with her three sons, Morris, Cornelius, and John. I am absolutely positive that this is my GGGM. Those are the names of her and Morris' children. It looks like one of two things could've happened: (1) Morris came over alone in 1850 and sent for Catherine and the kids 3 years later, and the Moira couple aren't my GGGPs, or (2) Morris and Catherine came here together in 1850, they are the Moira couple, and Catherine went back to get the boys in 1853. I would like to hear some opinions on all this. Thanks, everybody. Clare -----Original Message----- From: nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nycolumb-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elsie Saar Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:31 AM To: nycolumb@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYCOLUMB] Question: Canada Immigration Records Clare, as far as I know, the US gov't didn't start keeping Canadian Border Crossings until about 1898. Sorry. Perhaps someone else knows more. Elsie (Scharpf) Saar Quilting: http://community.webshots.com/user/saarlc Genealogy research American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Higgins" <clarehiggins@comcast.net> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com>; <nycolumb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:05 AM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] Question: Canada Immigration Records > Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my > great-great-grandparents > emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the > first > record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in > Moira, > Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration > records > are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to > research > them? Thanks. > > > > Clare Higgins > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: m1chellestone Surnames: ACKERT, ASCHA, ASKEY, STONE, VAN BOGIT, VAN VOKLENBURGH, VAN VALKENBURGH Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4894.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Melissa, Thanks for your quick response. Perhaps our two Ackert families are related. There was also a mention that Mary's oldest son, Charles G. Ascha (1845-1915), in later life claimed (Gazeteer of Berkshire Co., Mass, 1885) that his grandfather was a "John Van Bogit" who served in the Revolutionary War "and was at the battle of Bennington. He was also aid-de-camp of Gen. Washington." This could've only have been Mary E. Ackert's father (John Ackert--?), since Charles' other, paternal grandfather would've been an Ascha(?) Could "Van Bogit" have been a Van Volkenburgh or Van Valkenburgh, of which there were many in Chatham and Columbia Co., NY? (No "Van Bogit"s found by Googling...) I just post this in the hope it will ring a bell with someone. Thanks, Michelle Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sandraseamaan607 Surnames: Mulvey-Degnan Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4895/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for any family of,Thomas and Rose( Degnan) Mulvey. Their children are, Thomas b; 1922, Harold, b; 1924, and Elizabeth, b; 1928. Think all born in Lockport, NY. Any help would aqppreciated Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: nunn2401 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4894.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello...I have David Ackert(sometimes spelled Eckert) B-1753 D-1849 Buried Gardina Farms Cemetery in Columbia County....close to Spencertown and Austerlitz. He married Sarah Jackson B-1753 D-1836 also buried at Gardina Farms. David served in the 8th REG Albany Militia in REV WAR. They had 7children that I know of....Elisabeth B-1778, Albertje B-1779, Rebecca B-1781, Elias B-1786, Enoch B-1791, Moses B-1794, an Charlotte B-1798.... Melissa Nunn nunn2401@comcast.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello...I have David Ackert(sometimes spelled Eckert) B-1753 D-1849 Buried Gardina Farms Cemetery in Columbia County....close to Spencertown and Austerlitz. He married Sarah Jackson B-1753 D-1836 also buried at Gardina Farms. David served in the 8th REG Albany Militia in REV WAR. They had 7children that I know of....Elisabeth B-1778, Albertje B-1779, Rebecca B-1781, Elias B-1786, Enoch B-1791, Moses B-1794, an Charlotte B-1798.... Melissa Nunn nunn2401@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: gc-gateway@rootsweb.com To: NYCOLUMB-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2009 7:15:07 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [NYCOLUMB] John and Sarah ACKERT, circa 1820 in Chatham or Austerlitz? This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: m1chellestone Surnames: ACKERT, ASCHA, ASKEY, STONE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4894/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to research the parents of Mary E. ACKERT, who was said to have been born in Chatham or Austerlitz, Columbia Co., NY in either 1817 or c. 1828. Her parents names were given on her death certificate as John and Sarah ACKERT. Is anyone familiar with this family? Mary wed James ASCHA (also spelled ASKEY) of White Creek, NY (before 1845) and they moved to Bennington, Vermont; they had three children and were divorced. Then Mary wed Ward N. STONE of Worthington, Massachusetts (before 1858), and they settled in Peru, Mass. and had three sons. Mary died in Peru 10 November 1881. Thanks for any help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.   ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Clare, as far as I know, the US gov't didn't start keeping Canadian Border Crossings until about 1898. Sorry. Perhaps someone else knows more. Elsie (Scharpf) Saar Quilting: http://community.webshots.com/user/saarlc Genealogy research American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Higgins" <clarehiggins@comcast.net> To: <ny-irish@rootsweb.com>; <nycolumb@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:05 AM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] Question: Canada Immigration Records > Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my > great-great-grandparents > emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the > first > record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in > Moira, > Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration > records > are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to > research > them? Thanks. > > > > Clare Higgins > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: m1chellestone Surnames: ACKERT, ASCHA, ASKEY, STONE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4894/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am trying to research the parents of Mary E. ACKERT, who was said to have been born in Chatham or Austerlitz, Columbia Co., NY in either 1817 or c. 1828. Her parents names were given on her death certificate as John and Sarah ACKERT. Is anyone familiar with this family? Mary wed James ASCHA (also spelled ASKEY) of White Creek, NY (before 1845) and they moved to Bennington, Vermont; they had three children and were divorced. Then Mary wed Ward N. STONE of Worthington, Massachusetts (before 1858), and they settled in Peru, Mass. and had three sons. Mary died in Peru 10 November 1881. Thanks for any help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Clare, Go to http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/index-e.html this is the Canadian Government sponsored genealogy web site with databases you can search, genealogy tips, etc. and it's free. Happy hunting! Maryann -----Original Message----- From: ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ny-irish-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Clare Higgins Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 6:06 AM To: ny-irish@rootsweb.com; nycolumb@rootsweb.com Subject: [NY-IRISH] Question: Canada Immigration Records Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my great-great-grandparents emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the first record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in Moira, Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration records are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to research them? Thanks. Clare Higgins ====NY-Irish Mailing List==== Don't forget to check out the NY-Irish mailing list website. Also, check/add your NY-Irish surnames on the Surname Registry: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/NYIrishList/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NY-IRISH-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, everybody. I have reason to believe that my great-great-grandparents emigrated from Ireland and landed in Canada. This is because the first record I find of them in the U.S. is a census record from 1850, in Moira, Franklin County, New York. I've learned that Canadian immigration records are not available on line. Does anybody know where I can go to research them? Thanks. Clare Higgins

I am looking for the parents and any other information available on any of the following: Samuel Horton, a Rev. War soldier, b: August 22, 1766 birth place unknown d: September 18, 1833 in Ontario County,NY Adah Treat b: August 28, 1770 married on September 1788, at New Lebanon, NY by George Grant, Justice of peace. and had the following children and probably several more.Charlotte Horton b: July 23, 1789, Rachel Horton b: July 24, 1791, Polly Horton, August 1793, Betsey Horton b: November 28, 1795, Abigail Horton b: March 17, 1798, Sally Horton b: August 20, 1800 , James Horton b: April 28, 1803 , Stephen Horton b: August 03, 1805 and Lucy Horton. I have the Revolution pension file. Thanks in advance Marilyn

I am looking for the parents and any other information available on any of the following: Samuel Horton, a Rev. War soldier, b: August 22, 1766 birth place unknown d: September 18, 1833 in Ontario County,NY Adah Treat b: August 28, 1770 married on September 1788, at New Lebanon, NY by George Grant, Justice of peace. and had the following children and probably several more.Charlotte Horton b: July 23, 1789, Rachel Horton b: July 24, 1791, Polly Horton, August 1793, Betsey Horton b: November 28, 1795, Abigail Horton b: March 17, 1798, Sally Horton b: August 20, 1800 , James Horton b: April 28, 1803 , Stephen Horton b: August 03, 1805 and Lucy Horton. I have the Revolution pension file. Thanks in advance Marilyn

Statements are sometimes made by clerks that divorce records are sealed forever, as I was told again today, but that is not true. New York State divorce records which are 100 or more years old are available to genealogists, according to the County Clerk's Offices in the counties of Albany, Rensselaer, and Columbia, all of which have divorce records on microfilm or in some other form. They may not be indexed, and it would be a lot easier to find a divorce decree if you knew its date, but you can search for one by visiting the county clerk's office. A divorce decree tells the terms of the divorce and property settlement. "The divorce certificate contains basic information about the husband and wife, and the date and place the marriage ended." They began being issued in 1963. "Who is eligible to obtain a divorce certificate copy? * The husband * The wife * Other persons with a New York State Court Order " A divorce decree from 1909-1962 may only be available the same way. I could get no information specifically about that time period. The Albany County Hall of Records does not have any divorce records. http://www.health.state.ny.us/vital_records/divorce.htm Cliff Lamere

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Jane_Monson Surnames: Lewis, Williams, Dillman,Bissell Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4893/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My GG Grandfather was David Lewis. On the 1855 NY Census he is listed as being born in Columbia County on 11 Nov. 1796 and moved to Verona, Oneida, NY when he was 6 years old. He was married to Margaret Williams in Verona and died in Verona. They had 14 children. He was a farmer. Can anyone give me leads to his parents and siblings names? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hi Pete, Have you had the opportunity to read the Lovejoy Family History by Clarence Earl Lovejoy. He has well documented the family back to 1460 in Buckungamshire, England to about 1460. My gr-rgandmother was Mary Ann Lovejoy, the daughter of Daniel Benjamin Lovejoy and Luerena Case. You can probably find the book in the library at Albany. If not, or if you have a question about it, I have a copy and I'd be more than happy to help out. It may take some time however, since it is really buried deep in one of the many stacks of documentation I have on the floors of multiple rooms and I'm not as spry as I once was. Below is a quote from my book "The Long Groat Line" which you can find on line at: http://www.thegroat.net/toc.htm RichardPeter GROAT, the son of Jacob P. Groat (145) and Jane Shufelt, was born March 29, 1822, and christened "Peter", May 18, 1822, at the Reformed Church of Claverack. This christening record is the earliest record found that used the spelling "G-R-O-A-T." While still an infant, he moved with his family to Newark in Wayne County in 1822. Better known as R. P. Groat or Peter Groat after completing school, he worked in his father's blacksmith shop. On October 28, 1847, at the Church of First Universalist Society of Newark, he was married by the Reverend J. J. Austin, to Mary Ann Lovejoy, the daughter of Daniel Benjamin Lovejoy and Luerena Case, born June 8, 1826, in Columbia County, NY. The Lovejoy family was one of the earliest to settle in Massachusetts with John Lovejoy (June 15, 1622 - November 7, 1700) landing first in Newbury in 1635, and settling in Andover around 1644. He is listed among the first 23 settlers in Andover. Clarence Earle Lovejoy has documented and published the Lovejoy family history, originating with Johannes Lovejoy, born about 1460, in the town of Little Marlow, Buckinghamshire, England). Happy hunting! Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <OurRoots78@aol.com> To: <NYCOLUMB@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 6:53 PM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] Columbia County Museum >I am planning a trip to the Albany, NY area this weekend and hope to have > some time afterward to work on my family history. I am looking for > information about my Beckwith/Cady/Lovejoy ancestors in the late 1700's > and 1800's > in the Chatham/Canaan area. > > I have found a web page for the Columbia County Historical Society museum > in Kinderhook, NY and have sent an e-mail requesting information. > As a possibly less biased informant, what would I expect to find- church > records which might list baptisms, marriages and deaths, family > histories? > How complete are their holdings? > > Thankyou > > Pete Beckwith > (near Boston, MA) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

April 17 was the last message about additions to http://www.newyorkgravestones.org site a great deal of photos had been submitted by many.... and when you want to share, please review the instructions linked at bottom of left column before submissions for successful and quality photos. Albany Allegany Bronx Broome Cattaraugus Cayuga Chautauqua Chemung Chenango Clinton Columbia Delaware Dutchess Erie Essex Fulton Genesee Greene Herkimer Lewis Livingston Madison Monroe Montgomery Niagara Oneida Onondaga Ontario Oswego Queens Rensselaer Saratoga Schenectady Schoharie Schuyler Steuben Suffolk Warren Washington Wayne Wyoming W. David Samuelsen

Well, I can't say much about records, but you will want to explore Cady Road in East Chatham. Wasn't Beckwith involved in the notorious "cannibal murder"? I think he was the victim/alleged meal. On 9/27/09 7:53 PM, "OurRoots78@aol.com" <OurRoots78@aol.com> wrote: > I am planning a trip to the Albany, NY area this weekend and hope to have > some time afterward to work on my family history. I am looking for > information about my Beckwith/Cady/Lovejoy ancestors in the late 1700's and > 1800's > in the Chatham/Canaan area. > > I have found a web page for the Columbia County Historical Society museum > in Kinderhook, NY and have sent an e-mail requesting information. > As a possibly less biased informant, what would I expect to find- church > records which might list baptisms, marriages and deaths, family histories? > How complete are their holdings? > > Thankyou > > Pete Beckwith > (near Boston, MA) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message