This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: canis1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4916/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The Capital District Genealogical Society will meet at the Colonie Town Library 629 Albany-Shaker Road, Loudonville Saturday Jan 23, 2010 2 P.M. to 4 P.M. The computer group will meet at 1 P.M. The computer group is an informal demonstration by one of our members of sites and tips to use on your computer The topic for the meeting will be Strategies for Searching for Ship Manifests The speaker will be Peter Sisario Please join us the meeting is free and open to the public. Capital District Genealogical Society P.O. Box 2175 Empire State Plaza Station Albany, NY 12220 Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JoelSwink55 Surnames: Bailey Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4915/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Is there anybody who has a comprehensive list of the grandchildren of Samuel Bailey who was born 19 Mar. 1740 in Haddam, Connecticut. His 11 children were born in Canaan, Columbia Co., NY Samuel's wife was Ruth Clark. They are both buried on the Old Bailey Farm in Whitestown, NY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: RichardHayes35 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/209.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I think that you have the wrong parents for Neeltje Scherp. I have 10 children for Lysbeth Janse and Gysbert Scherp. The last child I have for them is Hendrick. He was born on 14 May 1727. Lysbeth was 41 and Gysbert was 51 at that time. I do not think that they would have had a child 10 years after their last child was born. Richard Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jennifurschultz Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/209.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Look up "Schermerhorn Genealogy and Family Chronicles: Chapter IV: Descendants of Jacob Jacobse Schermerhorn (Part 1 of 5)" ID # 136 - JOHANNES, son of (125) Cornelius Schermerhorn and Margarita J. A. Bratt; b. 1715; d. Oct. 16, 1779, aged 64 years; bur. in Ghent, Columbia County, N. Y.; m. NEELTJIE SCHERP (M. L., Oct. 18, 1738); dau. of Gysbert Andries Scherp and Lysbeth Jans Goeway. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: chorn50 Surnames: Jonas Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/1638.1.2.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Robin, I'd love to learn more about Leslie's family. Please see the email with the report which I emailed you to your email address. Cathy Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: robinjonas1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/1638.1.2.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Cathy- I am very close with Leslie Jonas' family - I just spent Christmas with them. I think I might be able to help you and also I think you might have some info for me! Please write me at robinjonas@sbcglobal.net Thanks! Robin Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cheryl7849 Surnames: Rinello Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4913.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You might try the following: The Register Star, 364 Warren St., Hudson, NY 12534 (518) 828-1616 Hudson Area Library, 400 State St., Hudson, NY 12534 (518) 828-1792 www.hudson.lib.ny.us or email hudsonarealibrary@gmail.com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Mary Richardson wrote the following email to the Rensselaer Co. mailing list. It presents an interesting way to be clear about surname plurals. I thought it was worth passing it on to this mailing list. Cliff Lamere ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks, Cliff. I shared your comments with my fellow list administrators. One of them responded that he uses the same convention that I use to clarify surname plurals: "I do appreciate the apostrophe issue though, and although not a grammar freak, I do like to avoid ambiguity where possible. That's where an often used genealogy (how many folk spell that incorrectly?) convention has a big advantage - the use of capital letters for family names. One of my names is CUMMING, and there is the similar, but nowadays distinct family of CUMMINGS. I can simply use CUMMINGs to denote the plural and be fairly confident to not be misinterpreted." Regards, Mary Richardson

Cliff, Some good pointers for sentence construction. I would just hasten to point out that another proper use of the apostrophe with names would be as follows, "The Wilsons' genealogy is enclosed." This would be an example of plural possessive such as for a specific Wilson family as opposed to, "The Wilsons genealogy is enclosed." which would imply all Wilson families. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Lamere <clifflamere@nycap.rr.com> To: nyalbany@rootsweb.com; nycolumb@rootsweb.com; nyrensse@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, Jan 1, 2010 4:32 pm Subject: [NYALBANY] Plurals of surnames A very common punctuation error in genealogy is the use of the postrophe followed by an 's' to create the plural of a surname. Exampled (Examples) of that wrong usage follows: There are seven Chadwick's on the census page." Has anyone found obituaries for any Horner's in this county?" The error is becoming so common that it had me wondering if it was I who as doing it wrong. A little research had confirmed that an apostrophe should NOT be used to ake the plural of a surname. Gardner's is incorrect as a plural, but orrect to show possession (as in "Betty Gardner's pie was great."). The following plurals are correct. For most surnames, simply add an 's' o form the plural of it. Smith --> Smiths ailey --> Baileys ardner --> Gardners an Woert --> Van Woerts However, if the name ends in an , x, ch, sh, or a z, he plural is formed by adding an -es. Jones --> Joneses addox --> Maddoxes arch --> Marches ush --> Rushes artinez --> Martinezes http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/apostro.asp See Rule 5. I wish you all a very happy and healthy 2010. Cliff Lamere ===NY-Albany Mailing List==== heck out the mailing list's website at:http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/Albany/ dd/check your Albany surnames on the Surname Registry. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYALBANY-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

The email about the plurals of surnames was well received, so I thought I would mention another place where the apostrophe is misused by genealogists. The plural of a decade or century should not contain an apostrophe. For example, 1740's and 1900's are incorrect. They should be 1740s and 1900s. http://www.ohio.edu/publications/editor.html See 5.1. As another website said, "Apostrophes indicate possession or contractions, not plurality." An example of a contraction would be, "She graduated in '65." That is a proper use of the apostrophe with dates. While we are on the topic of plurals, if you are looking at a book of baptism records that lists the date of birth for each person, how would you express the plural of 'date of birth?' Would 'dates of birth' or 'date of births' be correct? The answer is the first one, 'dates of birth.' Finally, one more thing about surname plurals. Some surnames exist with an 's' at the end of them, whereas the 's' is lacking in a spelling variation of the same surname. Michael and Michaels are such an example. To place an 's' at the end of the Michael surname to make a plural could mislead the reader. In such a case, I always reword the sentence to avoid using the plural of the name. Instead of saying, "There are 25 Michaels buried in that cemetery," I would say, "There are 25 people by the surname of Michael buried in that cemetery." Or, "There are 25 people by the surname of Michaels buried in that cemetery." The reader should not get confused about the meanings of those sentences. Cliff Lamere

A very common punctuation error in genealogy is the use of the apostrophe followed by an 's' to create the plural of a surname. Exampled of that wrong usage follows: "There are seven Chadwick's on the census page." "Has anyone found obituaries for any Horner's in this county?" The error is becoming so common that it had me wondering if it was I who was doing it wrong. A little research had confirmed that an apostrophe should NOT be used to make the plural of a surname. Gardner's is incorrect as a plural, but correct to show possession (as in "Betty Gardner's pie was great."). The following plurals are correct. For most surnames, simply add an 's' to form the plural of it. Smith --> Smiths Bailey --> Baileys Gardner --> Gardners Van Woert --> Van Woerts However, if the name ends in an s, x, ch, sh, or a z, the plural is formed by adding an -es. Jones --> Joneses Maddox --> Maddoxes March --> Marches Rush --> Rushes Martinez --> Martinezes http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/apostro.asp See Rule 5. I wish you all a very happy and healthy 2010. Cliff Lamere

Lonna, contact the Columbia County Historical Society, they will help you. The people are wonderful there. Elsie (Scharpf) Saar Quilting: http://community.webshots.com/user/saarlc Genealogy research American: Parks, Avann, Bulson, Soden, Menkens German: Wienecke, Storz, Scharpf, Saar, Stelzer ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <NYCOLUMB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 3:55 AM Subject: [NYCOLUMB] RINELLO obituary > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Lonna717 > Surnames: Rinello > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4913/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > Happy New Year! I would love a copy of the obituary for Rose > Rinello who died in Claverack on 1 Dec 1990. Perhaps someone knows > what the local paper is or if the paper will send an obituary? I > appreciate your help. I am in Ocean County NJ if I can help someone > in return. Thanks! > > Lonna Doyle > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If > you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board > URL link above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCOLUMB-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: GailKathleenJ Surnames: West, Younglove, Rouse, Chapman Classification: lookup Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4914/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Looking for information on the ancestors of Benajah West who married Anna Younglove Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Lonna717 Surnames: Rinello Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4913/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Happy New Year! I would love a copy of the obituary for Rose Rinello who died in Claverack on 1 Dec 1990. Perhaps someone knows what the local paper is or if the paper will send an obituary? I appreciate your help. I am in Ocean County NJ if I can help someone in return. Thanks! Lonna Doyle Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Anthony_Moseley Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/1516.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Linda, You can reach me at tonym@doveair.net. I have information that Lucretia Vreedenbergh Brown married Shadrack Dickinson Thomas in 1827 after Squire Brown had died. They had several children and she died about 1855. My problem is that when she died she was like 75 and several of her children would have been born while she was in her late 50's and her last child when she was 65. Do you have any information on her??? Thanks so much for your help. Tony Moseley Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Does anyone know if the Unitarian Universalist Church is still open in Hudson? It has occurred to me that their records may answer some questions on a family that lived in the area in the early 1800s. Thank you and happy new year. Debbie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: sectigress Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/2494.1.2.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi John, I am a relative of yours. My maternal grandfather was Sylvester Perry Johnson. He was the grandson of Sarah Maria Holmes (1819-1899). She was the daughter of Sylvester and Ann (Tripp) Holmes. Sylvester was the son of Jabez and Susanna. Jabez Jr. served in the Revolutionary War, 17th Regiment of Albany Couty Militia; in fact, Jabez Sr. and Experience (daughter of Edward Cleveland of Canterbury, Conn.) had 8 children: Sarar B., Experience, Palmer, Jabez, John, Jedediah, Roswell, and Lydia. Of the boys, only Palmer did not serve in the Revolutionary War. The longer part of this story begins with the Cooke's of England. Francis Cooke came to America in 1620 on the Mayflower. In 1623 Hester Cooke came to the New World. Other names associated with the Mayflower and, eventually, Holmes are: Allerton, Cushman, and Hopkins. I am interested in finding out more about the Johnson line. I know, only, that Sylvester Holmes had a daughter Sarah Maria (1819) who married William Chauncey Johnson. She had two children Albertus Brownwell and Sylvester Perry Johnson. These reports were obtained from Colonial Records of Holmes family (Prof. Adolphus H. Sage, 147 W. 62nd St., NY, NY: 1922, and "Old Family Bible" of Sylvester Holmes, Sr. in possession of W.F. Holmes, LeRoy, NY). Anything else you know and would share would be very cool. Teri Riave Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pata41 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4912.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The book "The Munger Book" (which is available at Ancestry.com) shows on pg. 517 that Henry F. Munger was born April 11, 1809 in Ghent, Columbia Co to Frederick & Betsy Poyner Munger. No birth dates for either Frederick or his wife. Pg. 518 shows that Henry m. Agnes McFarlane who was b. in Glasgow, Scotland in 1808. No parents are given for Agnes. There are ten children listed for Henry & Agnes including Albert, b. Aug. 23, 1840 in Ghent. He was their fifth child according to this book. The book was compiled by J. B. Munger & pub. in 1915. Pat R. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: markertree Surnames: Munger Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4912/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Henry born in 1809 in columbia county married Agnus Macfarlane approx 1831. first born Albert my great great grandfather would like to find parents of Henry and Agnus. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: NinaStirlen Surnames: Lamphier/Oakley Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4808.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think the Samuel you mentioned may be my Lamphier. I just found out he was born in Columbia co and so was his wife Sobrina Oakley. He was born Jan 10, 1978. If this is him then Joshua and Anne were his parents. Do you have anymore info on Samuel. Thank you. Nina Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.