This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djschults Surnames: Jolls Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/665.841/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Clarissa Stevens and Gardener (or Garner) Jolls are my husband's ggg-grandparents. His family line descends through Julia Ann Jolls who married James Tomley West. I have information on this family line if anyone is interested. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gregrhtn Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4870.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I never said 'Thank you.' So, 'Thank you!' (brain surgery in 2007; benign (Thank You, Lord!) tumor;retired; disabled)) I've 'dead-ended' with William HORTON, b. 1835 England. Can't seem to find anything on him... Thanks again. Greg Horton Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pharder5037 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4936.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Dorris, Spencer and Betsey Silvernail had only 2 children, which we know from the Biography you posted on the Silvernail board a few years back; also the censuses - Betsey as a widow in 1900 had 2 children/ 2 living - Philip and Abby who married Chas. Roberts. Martin and Lee Silvernail with Philip in 1875 were sons of Albert C. Silvernail & Maryette (or Mary J.). The family was in Ancram in 1860 and 1870. There was also a daughter Clarissa or Clara born about 1855. I can't find the Jennie that was with Philip C. (and Albert) in 1875, but she may be the clue to the parents of Albert. I don't see any Charles in the Copake/ Ancram area between 1840 and 1880 that could be the father of John Albert in 1856. Maybe it's just a coincidence, but there is a Charles Silvernail from Columbia County that died in the Civil War. There are clear records for him, and he is not old enough to be John Albert's father. He enlisted at Claverack in 1862 and died of disease at Savannah Ga in 1865. He was the son of John b. 1809 & Anna M. (Moore in a few family files) of Claverack. John was son of Nicholas b.1780 & Catherine Porter. This John and Anna baptized 7 children 1833-1848 - 6 at St. Thomas Luth. Churchtown, including Charles Stewart b. 28 Oct 1845/bt. 3 May 1846. An abstract of his military record: American Civil War Soldiers: Name: Charles S. Silvernail Enlistment Date: 15 Aug 1862 Enlistment Place: Claverack, New York Side Served: Union State Served: New York Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 15 August 1862 at the age of 18. Enlisted in Company G, 128th Infantry Regiment New York on 19 Aug 1862. Promoted to Full Corporal on 11 Sep 1863. Promoted to Full Private (Reduced to ranks) on 1 Apr 1865. Died of disease Company G, 128th Infantry Regiment New York on 8 Jul 1865 at Savannah, GA. Film Number: M551 roll 129 It's possible that John Albert either confused the stories he heard as a child or was trying to impress his Confederate neighbors years later in Tennessee with stories about his father in the Civil War. Jim Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BPolito3965 Surnames: Eastwood, Skala, Slattery Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4939/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have been searching for several years now for the marriage of Susan Jane Eastwood to Frank Skala. Susan I think died sometime in 1940s probably Chatham area. I would like to have her death date too. She was born November, 1878 to Martha Slattery and James Eastwood in Patterson, Putnam County, NY. I think most of her children grew up in Chatham area. Frank Skala died there too. Any help would be appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: adeens Surnames: Murch Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/530.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My grandfather's grandfather was named Alvin Murch, born 1821 according to the census, and (possibly) served in the 128th NY infantry. However, according to my family records, his wives were Mary Bogart and Adella Raymond. I'm a descendant of Adella, via her son William Alvin Murch and William's son, my grandfather, William Irving Murch. Do you have more information about Regina Traver and her son Charles? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dorristx Surnames: SILVERNAIL-FOWLER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4936.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the information,we now have Albert married to Jennie , Jennie & Albert were living in Hudson , N.Y. 1880 with Mother in law Mary Fowler, brother in law Charley Fowler, & sister in law, Minnie Fowler.so Jennie was Jennie Fowler. Spencer was a nephew to Philip Silvernail. Spencer & Betsy Silvernail were cousins.I do not have Martin & Leo placed, probably children of Spencer 7 Betsie. Thanks again, Dorris Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dorristx Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4936.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for the information, a good start for this research. Albert , born 1856,no parents given , living with his grandparents in 1860.If Albert was not a son of one of Philip's sons ,then he must have been a son of one of the daughters. Lucretia died 1862,Charity died 1859. Cornelius Silvernail,born1805, was a son of Peter & Christina (Traver) Silvernail, nephew to Philip Silvernail. Thanks again. Dorris Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: claire1957 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4938/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My husband's g-g-g grandfather lived in Stuyvesant. Gilbert H. Albertson's parents were John H. and Dorcas Albertson each born in approximately 1805. Any information about this family would be appreciated. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SMULVEY Surnames: Silvernail Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4936.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Here is the 1875 census taken June 19th, second election district, Dwelling No. 143, Frame house valued at $700, Family No. 161" Philip C. Silvernail, age 79 male, born Columbia Co., married, farmer. Abbie Silvernail, 79, wife female, born Col. Co., married. Spencer Silvernail, 53, male, Uncle, born Col. Co., married, farmer. Betsie Silvernail, 53, female, daughter, born Col.Co., married, housekeeper. Philip Silvernail, 18, male, grandson, born Col. Co., single, farm laborer. Albert Silvernail, 19, male, grandson, born Col. Col, married, no occupation. Jennie Silvernail, 18, female, (sic) grandson, born Col Co., married, no occupation. Martin Silvernail, 16, grandson, born Col. Co., single, farm laborer. Leo Silvernail, 15, male, grandson, born Col. Co. single, farm laborer. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: pharder5037 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4936.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Dorris, Albert Silvernail 4 is in the household of Philip C. Silvernail 64 and wife Abby in 1860. One would think Philip was the grandfather, but Philip's 3 sons John, Adam & Albert all survived the war and little Albert isn't with one of them. Also with Philip in 1860 is a Cornelius Silvernail 55. Can't find anything on him - maybe he's the father or grandfather. Jim Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dorristx Surnames: SILVERNAIL ROBERTS MILLER MORGAN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4936.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Philip C. Silvernail, b. 5-14-1796, m. Abbie Miller. d/o John Miller, lived & died at Copake. Elizeberh Silvernail, d/o Phillip & Abbie (Miller) Silvernail. m. her cousin, Spencer Silvernail. s/o Conrad & Phebe (Bressie) Silvernail.Spencer & Elizebeth (Silvernail)Silvernail had two children, Phillip & Abbie. Abbie m. Charles Roberts & Phillip m.Christiana Morgan, 2 children, Jenette & Charles Silvernail. The following is from Surname Biographics 1900, Columbia Co. N.Y. USA, page 16 Philip Silvernail was born in the town of Copake June 16, 1857, son of Spencer & Betsy (Silvernail)Silvernail who had two children, Abbie, wife of Charles Roberts and Philip. The latter was educated in the common schools of his native town, and was associated with his father in farming until his death in 1889 at the age of sixty eight.Since that date he has managed the homestead farm, which was formally owned by his mother's father, Philip C.Silvernail. His mother resides with him.When he was twenty two years of age he was married to Christiana, daughter of James & Jeanette (Young) Morgan. They have two children, Jennette & Charles. Thank you for your help. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AndrewCarry123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4937/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, I apologize for the delay in shipping; I have fallen behind because of unusual high volume orders. I have just hired two more employees to help expedite shipping and all orders should be shipped out by next week. I apologize sincerely for the trouble and promise to deliver on time in the future. Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: saare Surnames: Silvernail Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4936.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I searched the NYG&B online eLibrary and did not find John or Phillip. Sorry. Elsie Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Dorristx Surnames: SILVERNAIL MILLER ROBERTS BUDD SHOEMAKE Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4936/mb.ashx Message Board Post: John Albert Silvernail born 1857. Copake , N.Y. parents unknown, father possibly Charles? John Albert Silvernail was raised by Phillip & Abbie (Miller) Silvernail or Abbie (Silvernail) Roberts. John Albert Silvernail's father was killed in the Civil War. Quote from John Albert Silvernail"I remember on a clear day I could see the big stone monument at Boston Corners and the Civil War soldiers marchng by" Does anyone know the parents of John Albert Silvernail? John Albert Silvernail married (1)Laura Budd 2) Lee Ellen Shoemake Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jtpets Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/1368.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Edward Rushmore was my grandfather's brother. Helen, Raymond and Clayton, Lillian and Rodney were his children. My mom knows them all very well. Rodney is the only one living. He is still in Germantown NY Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: djr0125 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4934.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, I've written to my reps about the same issue. I've also written to request opening up old adoption records, especially where all parties involved are long dead. There is absolutely no reason why these records can't be digitally indexed, along with the associated document numbers for ordering, and made available and searchable online. Other states have already done this and are miles ahead of us. Much of the work accomplished in other states was done by volunteers. The technology for doing this is at least 20 years old, and the processes, such as having at least one additional set of eyes reviewing the inputs, are much older than that. We're not talking about cutting edge technology and processes here. With the way the NYS "system" is structured, it's impossible to order a record, aka "money coming in for a service", if you can't even find out if an ancestor was here, let alone when. The system is fractured, sending you to NYC for city records, and Albany for all others. I don't know about downstate, but if you want to go to the Albany Archives you have to take a day off from work, since there's no accommodation for those who are employed full time during traditional working hours. Alternately, I suppose you can hire someone to track down records for you, but that can be an expensive and time-consuming proposition. If you do the work yourself, you can follow hunches and assess the odds of finding a record by finding related names. A hired researcher may not do that. Archives in some other states, even states with records as obscured as NY's, are open on one Saturday a month or have evening hours once or twice per month. Of course, if you live hours and hours away from the physical archives, you don't have many options. I know that New Yorkers are used to obstacles and impediments and fiefdoms within state government entities, but one way to avoid directly dealing with the bureaucracies and (too often at the state level) unpleasant people in these places, is to make it possible to find and order the records on line. One example I'd use is the Illinois archives, where they currently have searchable death and marriage indexes online, along with a process for ordering the records. Currently, you have to call one of the Illinois University Archives to order those records, but it was an extremely pleasant transaction, where you were treated courteously, efficiently, and professionally. What a concept! Of course, if they had a provision for ordering online, they wouldn't have to man the phones, but at least you can find out if a record exists or not, and order it if it does exist. NY is significantly behind the curve on this. Embarrassingly so. So this doesn't seem too stern, I can't lavish enough praise on the county, city, and town offices, who are very responsive and helpful. I've never had an unpleasant encounter when dealing with individual localities. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: joanvangorder Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/4935.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hello All, Just wanted to say thank-you for the great information! Cliff, your site is very informative. Carol, Thanks for the number for locating deed. Will let you all know how I do. Thanks-Again, Joan Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wani20 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/1809.1.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Taken from the "Strong family p.1380" ( ? book title ) found in Blackney file at the Connecticut Historical society Hartford,Ct. Betsey Blackney married Luman Preston of Plymouth,Ct. on Dec.25 1800. She died April 4 1865 aged 88 years and 6 months,consequently was born about the first part of October 1776. She had 3 sisters : Lucy Blackney, Phebe Blackney, Jershula Blackney. Tradition says that the family had French blood and lived near the Hudson river in New York state. Betsey Blackney before marriage lived with the family of a Deacon Bacon of Woodbury,Ct. and also for a time with her mother on Chippins hill in Bristol,Ct. but no record of her mother was found, it is thought that she might of married a second time and consequently was known by another name. Betsey's sister Phebe is said to have married a Mr. Hine of New Haven,Ct. Lucy married Thural (perhaps a contraction of Ithural Tompkins or Thompson and also lived in New Haven and in Kent, Ct. around 1850. Jershula married Abel Tompkins, she joined the congregational church in Southington,Ct. Aug.5 1821 and had 4 childern Maria, Harriet, Daniel D. and Ira. All were babtized there Nov. 21 1821. She is marked on church cataloge as having died in 1844. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wani20 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/1809.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am NOT related to the Mumfords' I just happened to come across this while doing my Blackney research. MUMFORD, Clarissa BLACKNEY - 07-14-1814 01-03-1906 LS with her husband & their children Edward, Mary KENDALL & Cordelia FOSTER. Married Charles Norhood Mumford on October 2, 1836 in New York. Daughter of Eldres & Sarah (Crow) Blackney. "Born in N.Y." ____________________________________________________________ MUMFORD, Edward - 09-09-1847 06-12-1872 LS with his parents and his sisters Mary KENDALL & Cordelia FOSTER. Son of Charles Norhood & Clarissa (Blackney) Mumford. "Buried at Wauzeka, Wis." NOT BURIED HERE! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wani20 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.columbia/1809.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: To Patrick 1770: This is an old posting so I hope that you get it. You say that Clarissa Blackney's grandfather was a revolutionary war veteran and two of her brother's were in the civil war. Can provide me with this information? This may be the missing piece in my family research. Also I saw on some other post - that you are from Canada or live in Canada. Did your Blackney ancestors come from Canada? I have information saying that my Blackney ancestors were French / Canadian and possibly Indian. Thank you Wani Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.