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    1. [NYCOL] Prosper Harmon(Harman) of Hudson, Columbia County, New York
    2. Jim Smith
    3. Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Columbia/11875 Surname: Harmon, Harman ------------------------- Looking for the names of the wife and children of Prosper Harmon(Harman) who is listed in the 1790 Hudson, Columbia County, NY Federal Census. Jim Smith, Newport Coast, CA

    05/26/2001 05:00:22
    1. Re: [NYCOL] Peter Dingman - Margaret Gardinier Family
    2. Bonnie Morgan
    3. Ron, According to American Ancestry (the book) the Dingmans of Colubmbia County were descended from a Rodolphus Dingman who came from Holland about 1740. Hope this helps. Bonnie Ron Burdett wrote: > Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Columbia/11874 > > Surname: DINGMAN, GARDINIER, GARDENER, FERGUSON > ------------------------- > > Searching for information on Peter Dingman, born 3 Aug. 1755, Kinderhook, > Columbia Co., NY., died 1826, Charleston, Montgomery County. Wife was Margaret > Gardinier. I have the following children listed as: > Jacob, Andrew, John, Mary, Jane, Henry b: 19 Mar. 1797; James b: 20 Oct. > 1798; Isaac b: 26 Mar. 1800; all the above children born in Kinderhook. > Daniel b: 16 Feb. 1802; Abraham b: 17 May 1803; Elijah b: 1811 and Peter > b: 1816. All of these children were born in Charleston, Montgomery Co.. > Peter and Margaret are my 4th GGparents. Any help would be greatly appreciated. > Thank you.

    05/26/2001 01:42:18
    1. [NYCOL] Peter Dingman - Margaret Gardinier Family
    2. Ron Burdett
    3. Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Columbia/11874 Surname: DINGMAN, GARDINIER, GARDENER, FERGUSON ------------------------- Searching for information on Peter Dingman, born 3 Aug. 1755, Kinderhook, Columbia Co., NY., died 1826, Charleston, Montgomery County. Wife was Margaret Gardinier. I have the following children listed as: Jacob, Andrew, John, Mary, Jane, Henry b: 19 Mar. 1797; James b: 20 Oct. 1798; Isaac b: 26 Mar. 1800; all the above children born in Kinderhook. Daniel b: 16 Feb. 1802; Abraham b: 17 May 1803; Elijah b: 1811 and Peter b: 1816. All of these children were born in Charleston, Montgomery Co.. Peter and Margaret are my 4th GGparents. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

    05/25/2001 10:56:28
    1. Re: [NYCOL] Cemetery Search-Eunice Fanning
    2. Cliff Lamere
    3. My website has some links to Berkshire Co., MA marriage records prior to 1800 (see Vital Records - marriages) plus birth, marriage and death records for three Berkshire Co. Towns bordering Columbia Co. (see Vital Records - mixed records). http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clifflamere/ Cliff Ewenice@aol.com wrote: > I think you should post this same question to the MA-Berkshire county list. > All the Fannings I knew lived in State Line, MA, Berkshire County, not far > at all from Red Rock. > > a message dated 5/24/2001 9:37:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > hermosajenn@email.msn.com writes: > > << Anyone doing Columbia Co. cemetery research I would appreciate it if you > would keep an eye out for the burial place of EUNICE FANNING who died in 1816 > at RED ROCK. Any help appreciated and thanks. Mary Jennings > hermosajenn@msn.com > >>

    05/24/2001 05:44:54
    1. Re: [NYCOL] Cemetery Search-Eunice Fanning
    2. I think you should post this same question to the MA-Berkshire county list. All the Fannings I knew lived in State Line, MA, Berkshire County, not far at all from Red Rock. a message dated 5/24/2001 9:37:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, hermosajenn@email.msn.com writes: << Anyone doing Columbia Co. cemetery research I would appreciate it if you would keep an eye out for the burial place of EUNICE FANNING who died in 1816 at RED ROCK. Any help appreciated and thanks. Mary Jennings hermosajenn@msn.com >>

    05/24/2001 05:32:18
    1. [NYCOL] Cemetery Search-Eunice Fanning
    2. Mary Elizabeth Jennings
    3. Anyone doing Columbia Co. cemetery research I would appreciate it if you would keep an eye out for the burial place of EUNICE FANNING who died in 1816 at RED ROCK. Any help appreciated and thanks. Mary Jennings hermosajenn@msn.com

    05/24/2001 03:31:38
    1. [NYCOL] 1909 newspaper arcticle tells why NY birth records may be missing
    2. Cliff Lamere
    3. Here are two 1909 Syracuse Herald (Onondaga Co., NY) newspaper articles. The first explains why you may not be able to find birth records for some of your NY ancestors. The second deals with making doctors responsible for filing death records. The articles were found recently by Ruth Ann Messick, a genealogical researcher from Saratoga Co. who can be seen almost daily at the NYS Library in Albany, NY. My father was born in 1912. He and two of nine siblings never had birth information submitted to the state. For him, it was 31 years after a law was passed to require birth, marriage and death be collected by local governments (county, town(ship), city or village) and then forwarded to the state. Earlier this week someone wrote to me to say that the state and local record for their father, born 1910, was not available either. Cliff ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Syracuse Herald, Wednesday Evening, June 2 1909 STORK PAID 201 LOCAL VISITS DURING THE MONTH OF MAY The birth rate in Syracuse for May is a decided improvement over that for April. During the thirty-one days that elapsed between the beginning and the end of the month the stork paid no less than 201 visits to Syracuse families. In several cases, however, the visits were made in quick succession, the long legged bird simply depositing one precious burden and flying off to bring a little twin brother or sister for the new baby. Registrar John Metz of the Bureau of Vital Statistics is of the opinion that many more babies are born in Syracuse than those whose births are recorded and he bases his belief upon the fact that there are MANY physicians in the city who RARELY if ever file a birth certificate - among them some of the doctors who make a specialty of acting as aids to Herr Stork. "We have written them letter after letter and have used every means that we know of to get the births reported" said the Registrar, "and still we are thoroughly convinced that we don't get anywhere nearly as full returns as we ought. There are three or four doctors in town who, between them, could easily swell the birth list by SEVERAL HUNDREDS a year from whom we hear almost nothing. And there are midwives practicing who do not file their birth certificates, they are not many, because the midwives realize for most part that there are few easier ways of earning a quarter than by filling out a blank and reporting a birth to this office." "I can't see any possible reason why either physicians or parents should object to the filing of birth records, and, as a matter of fact, the failure to send them in is caused merely by carelessness. In some families the doctor gives their children what they receive from death and birth certificates, and in that case there is no danger that we won't get the names of all the new babies. The youngsters watch for them like hawks, and 'papa' has no peace of mind until he gets his certificate ready. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The Syracuse Herald, Friday Evening, June 4, 1909 UP TO THE PHYSICIANS Amendment to Law Makes Them Responsible for Certificate. ______ Instead of Undertakers ______ Heretofore the Doctors have collected the fee and Undertakers have been obliged to get papers filled out and filed - New law about filing of Births ______ Physicians will have more work under an amendment to the public health law which the State Department of Health is preparing to enforce. When a doctor's patient dies he must within twenty-four hours deliver to the local registrar a certificate of the death and the probable cause. The amendment transfers the responsibility from the undertaker to the physician, relieving the undertaker of the necessity of calling upon the physician for the necessary data. Under the new law, in case an inquest is required by law, the Coroner or the Coroner's physician must fill out the certificate, and if no inquest is required and no physician has been in attendance, the certificate shall be filled out by some reputable person known to the official issuing the burial permit, and the person thus acting must make an affidavit to the facts set forth in the death certificate. The old law required the undertaker to file the physician's certificate before securing a burial permit. The amendment enables the Health Department to deal directly with the physicians. Another amendment requires that the registration of a birth must be made within thirty-six hours to the local health authorities, the object of this provision being to enable the Health Department to prepare the vital statistics of the State, another amendment requires that statistics must be forwarded from all localities on or before the fifth of the month. The State Health Department is preparing circulars, which will be sent to local health officers for distribution among physicians. ______ Registrar Favors Law "The amendment can scarcely fail to be of benefit," said Registrar of Vital Statistics John Metz this morning. "The physicians have always received the fee for the filing of death certificates and the undertakers have shouldered the responsibility of the filing. Therefore, of course, the undertakers have been more or less dissatisfied. They have frequently been obliged to call at the house of the doctor more than once in order to get a death certificate signed, and often there has been delay in the issuing of the burial permit." "Another good result of the new law will be the holding up of cases which ought to belong to the Coroner and giving him an opportunity to act upon them before the hour of the funeral. If a death certificate is filed within twenty-four hours after the death occurs, it will make it possible to get all the necessary information in case there is any reason for inquiry." "The filing of birth certificates within thirty-six hours is another excellent point and one which I trust will be possible to enforce. At present, we have pretty hard work to get the birth certificates filed at all, and if we can get full returns and get them quickly, it will certainly be a very good thing." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    05/24/2001 06:55:05
    1. [NYCOL] Capt. Arnold
    2. Dolores Vasilow
    3. Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Columbia/11873 Surname: Arnold ------------------------- Do you have Gay's Historical Gazetteer of Tioga Co c 1887? Capt Thomas S Arnold wrote letters to his wife Celestia Dean during the war of the rebellion.(and to his sister). She was d/o H Nelson Dean & from Adams Ma.She remarried Judge Clark c 1880.

    05/23/2001 03:29:13
    1. [NYCOL] Thomas S. ARNOLD, Owego NY
    2. Chuck Arnold
    3. Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Columbia/11872 Surname: ARNOLD ------------------------- Who was Thomas S. ARNOLD? Can't find in 1850-70 census, Tioga Co. NY. Who was Celestia?

    05/20/2001 12:45:21
    1. [NYCOL] MINARD/MYNARD Family
    2. Joan Cool
    3. Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Columbia/11871 Surname: Minard, BOWLES ------------------------- Looking for information on the Minard/Mynard family. Joshua and Zipporah BOWLES were parents to: Elisha Bowles Minard (b.May 22 1793),Fanny, Maria, Henry Hardin and Julia. Joshua (1843)and Zipporah (1834) both died in Austerlizt, NY.

    05/20/2001 07:57:01
    1. Re: [NYCOL] parents
    2. Cliff Lamere
    3. Nannette, The Columbia Co. Historical Society has a Cole genealogy by Lois Cassina. It is in a thick notebook, probably not to be found in any other library (or maybe in a couple of local places). It is typed and has maps and photos. She did a nice job. She lives in Valatie. It is not all of the Coles in the county. It was just her own relatives, mostly in the northern part of the county, I believe. There was another group of Coles to which she was not related. CCHS does research for a donation. If you would like information about this society, look at my Guide to Albany Area Genealogical Resources on my website. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clifflamere/ Cliff Nannette Frey wrote: > Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Columbia/11868 > > Surname: Cole, Finch > ------------------------- > > Need parents of Abigail Cole who Married Thomas Finch, 9 Oct 1822 in Ancram, > Columbia Co.

    05/19/2001 12:15:33
    1. Re: [NYCOL] parents
    2. Bonnie Morgan
    3. Nannette, There appear to have been 2 Cole families in Columbia County at that time according to American Ancestry: Alexander Cole of Ghent b. 1798 d. 1882 who married Mary Fowler and J.H. Cole of Claverack b. 1806 who married Esther P. Cooke. Alexander's father is listed as Adam of Ghent.b. circa 1768. He married a Katy NLN. J.H. Cole was the son of Peter Cole of Hudson, b.1766,d.1823. These are the only Coles who still lived in Columbia County in 1887 whose ancestors setttled in the USA before the Declaration of Independence. Perhaps it will help you. Bonnie Nannette Frey wrote: > Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum > Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Columbia/11868 > > Surname: Cole, Finch > ------------------------- > > Need parents of Abigail Cole who Married Thomas Finch, 9 Oct 1822 in Ancram, > Columbia Co.

    05/19/2001 09:50:16
    1. [NYCOL] Donnelly,Julia
    2. John K Downs
    3. Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Columbia/11869 Surname: Donnelly Julia ------------------------- Donnelly,Julia born in Ireland about 1830 Married John Lee in Hudson,columbia cty Feb.24,1854 She died March 28th 1886 in Milwaukee Wi. She had eight children,Edward,Patrick,John,James,Thomas,William,Mary Ellen and Martin Looking for information on the Donnelly or Lee Family

    05/19/2001 09:29:23
    1. [NYCOL] Burnett
    2. I am looking for any information about PERLINA or PAULINA BURNETT who was born about 1803 in Claverick or Hudson Columbia County. Married PETER FELIX WIESSMER (WIESMORE) about 1819. Peter F. is the son of PETER WIESSMER Jr.. Stumped! J. H. Weismore

    05/19/2001 09:04:33
    1. [NYCOL] parents
    2. JIM BURNS
    3. I am looking for parents of Elizabeth France, b.10/21/1800, who married Christopher I. France, of Schoharie, Co., in 1821 in Columbia Co. Any connection? Jim Burns

    05/19/2001 04:52:10
    1. [NYCOL] parents
    2. Nannette Frey
    3. Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/NY/Columbia/11868 Surname: Cole, Finch ------------------------- Need parents of Abigail Cole who Married Thomas Finch, 9 Oct 1822 in Ancram, Columbia Co.

    05/18/2001 06:09:33
    1. [NYCOL] Finding DESOTO Family roots
    2. Lisa
    3. Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/NY/Columbia/11867 Surname: desoto ------------------------- If you are searching for DeSoto family roots, please come and join us at DESOTO-L-request@rootsweb.com. You send a message there and type SUBSCRIBE in the subject title and ony SUBSCRIBE, leave it blank after that. This will connect you to others searching for there DeSoto heritage. How it works: You send messages with your family search info and others send theirs, everyone thats a memeber receives these messages via email, you exchange family information on the SURNAME that you find, even when you find DeSoto information that isn't your line you can pass it along to someone who can use it. I have been doing this on my other family lines and received information from other countries that I could not have obtained so easily. If this interests you please come and join at the above mentioned address and Good Luck. Thanks-Lisa

    05/18/2001 07:40:49
    1. [NYCOL] Hiserote
    2. Liz Farley
    3. Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/NY/Columbia/11866 Surname: Hiserote, Hiserodt, Huysraad, Hoysrodt ------------------------- Hello. relatives came from Columbia Co, New York from Germany, believed maybe around 1710. and settled in Germantown...as far as we know. Looking for Andrew Moorhead Hiserote, Andris J. Hiserodt or Hiserote, and generations before are, John I Hiserodt, Johannes Hiserodt, and finally last we have is Hendrick Huysradt. So different spellings. but sounds all the same. They then came to Hardin Co, Iowa. Grandpa Benjamin Hiserote was born in Oto, Iowa, then came to Nebraska, and on to South Dakota, where we live. Ben is my husband grandpa. So far, I have not got to a Curtis, and I have all the information on Andrew and Andris. but no names on wife or children to the generations before John and older. Could you please respond directly to my e-mail address. I could give you more dates, and see if any matches your information. Thanks LIZ

    05/17/2001 05:47:35
    1. [NYCOL] Hiserote, Curtis
    2. Terri Weideman
    3. Posted on: Columbia County NY. Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/NY/Columbia/11865 Surname: ------------------------- Just a couple of questions for you: Where in Iowa did they settle, and have you found any connections to the Curtis surname? I have a Hiserodt in my research that married a Curtis in Algona, IA.

    05/17/2001 04:36:40
    1. Re: [NYCOL] Re: [D-Col] State census
    2. Jane
    3. fran, scroll down and cliff's pages have a lot of info- had a good day, thanks, jane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cliff Lamere" <clifflamere@global2000.net> To: <NYCOLUMB-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 5:54 PM Subject: [NYCOL] Re: [D-Col] State census > Sarah, > > NY took a census every ten years from 1825-1875. They skipped 1885, then did a skimpy one in 1892 that missed many counties (including Columbia) and omitted large portions of the counties that were included. They resumed in 1905 and took censuses for 1915 and 1925. Later censuses are kept secret for about 75 years, I believe. There were some colonial censuses done for particular Towns or cities. > > Try these two links from my website. They are to general information about NY censuses. > > http://home.eznet.net/~halsey/NY/ny-census.htm > > http://www.nygbs.org/info/articles/NYS_census_contents.html > > Or, visit my website to look at the 64 links to online NY census results. They are organized by counties. > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clifflamere/ > > Cliff > > > > > > Sarah Clevenger wrote: > > > Does New York have a state census? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Sarah Clevenger > > > > ==== Dutch-Colonies Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe from this mailing list, Send message to: > > Dutch-Colonies-request@rootsweb.com ONLY Message; unsubscribe > > For problems; contact hollyft@bright.net > > > > ============================== > > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

    05/16/2001 10:58:42