Hi All, I know I'm risking criticism but I'll go ahead and do it anyhow. I have just finished (almost) scanning a Groat family history that I published in 1986 (The Long Groat Line) and put it up on a web site. It includes a great deal of information about any number of Columbia County pioneers. It includes a clickable, 22 page, all names index which allows you to click on the page number and go directly to it and then return to the index. I'll be making some additions to it as I go along, including hopefully adding a section of pictures called a "Photographic Journey." I'm working right now on getting my documentation together on the Shufelt family and and doing much the same thing. The site can be reached at either of the following URL's. Those of you with high speed access should probably use the first. http://home.midsouth.rr.com/groatline/Index.html http://members.aol.com/thefamilygroat/index.html I want to thank Cliff Lamere for all the assistance and support he has given me in this project. Initially he was gracious enough to offer to put it up on his site and I hastily accepted. He put a sample up with a number of borders for me to select and I kinda' stole the borders and some of his HTML coding and took off on my own, learning as I went. Learning HTML as you go is not for the faint of heart. Cliff helped me work though a lot of problems. When it came down to the end, we agreed that since Road Runner gives me ample web space, and the site would probably be under constant revision, it would be better to leave it where it is. I've already made provisions for the Shufelt Family, and perhaps later the Dederich's. There's some early information on the Shufelt's right now at http://home.midsouth.rr.com/groatline/Shufelt4.htm. Don't take it for gospel though -- It needs a lot of work. So to Cliff -- A BIG THANK YOU! To the rest, I hope it helps you somehow in your searches. Let me know of any problems you spot or any suggestions you might have to improve it. Don't hesitate to offer criticism -- I have a thick skin as well as a thick skull. Jim Groat, jgroat1@midsouth.rr.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Salisbury, Leonard Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1128.1128.1 Message Board Post: Hi Barry, Thanks for the post & your interest. Can you provide more info on Harmon Salisbury & Mary Hungerford. I have found a bit on this family living in Berne, Albany Co, NY. I have 3 possible sets of parents & at this time have not identified the above Harmon's parents. The possiblities are: 1. Hermanus b. 23 Sept 1770, bp St Thomas Lutheran Church, Churchtown, Columbia Co, NY. Son of Hermanus Casperse VAN SALSBERGEN & Emmetje VAN SALSBERGEN. 2. Hermans b. 9 Feb 1784, bp 7 Mar 1788 DRC of Albany, Albany Co, NY. Son of Joseph Van SALSBERGEN & Margaret Oestsenjans (Oversandt). 3. Hermans b. 21 Aug 1785, bp 1 Oct 1784 1st Lutheran of Albany, Albany Co, NY. Son of Johannes Casparse VAN SALSBERGEN & Maria. I have found a Harman Salsbury m. 4 Dec 1812 [Nassau Reformed Protestant Church, Nassau, Rensselaer Co, NY] to Elizabeth McDarby. Found 3 children: Catharine b. 1813 & Joseph b. 1815 [bapt in Nassau RC] and Margaret bp 1816 [Middleburgh RC, Middleburgh, Schoharie Co, NY. Based on the naming pattern for this family I am of the opinion that this "HARMON" was the son of Joseph Van Salsbergen & Margaret Oversandt. However, Harmon married to Mary "Polly" Hungerford's marriage occurred 27 May 1817 [New Salem RC, Twn of New Scotland, Albany Co, NY]. The only children I have identified so far are James [prob b. @ 1817; John b. 1818 [from cem records]; and Jasper b. 1824 [also from cem records] It is a possibility this Harmen married TWICE? Any other identified children or records relating to this family which you could share might shed some light on identifying 'Harmon's'.parents. 1820 NYS CENSUS INDEX: Harman SALISBURY, Albany Co, #035, Berne [the actural census I have not as yet done for this family] Harmon SALISBURY, Schoharie Co, #169, Broome (2 males under 10, 1 male 26-45; 2 females under 10, 1 female 26-45). Please feel free to contact me by e-mail. I am a descendant of a Joseph SALISBURY from Twn of Bethlehem, Albany Co, NY whose descendants were also in Schoharie Co.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/1541.1 Message Board Post: Is there by chance a Polly Mory mentioned in the Bible? If so, she married Edmund van Ornum. She was born c1794. Both are buried in the Brookfield Baptist Church Cemetery in Essex, Essex County, NY. Would appreciate your help . Allen Norris

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Van Salsbergen Salisbury Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1128.1128 Message Board Post: Hello Barbara I can not remember if I have contacted you before but here goes. I am looking for the parents of Harmon Salisbury born about 1785. I have found a Joseph Van Salsbergen who had a son Harmon born 2/9/1784. Joseph was born in Claverack and I believe Harmon was either born in Claverack or Schodack were his mother was from (Margarite Oversandt). I would be interested in all the Van Salsbergen information you have since I believe Harmon is definatley from this line. Harmon settled in New Scotland in the early 1800's and married Mary Hungerford.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Holsapple,Maul,Sager,Toof,Tittemore Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1717 Message Board Post: My4th great grandparents,William Holsapple and Mary Maul were born in Claverack,Columbia Co.I would so love to find any of their descendants.I descend from their only son,John.Their daughters were Gertje,Elizabeth,Maritje,Catharine and Eva. William and John moved to Quebec after revolution where they and their families died. Anyone having any info concerning a Holsapple family-would like to hear from you. Barbara Holsapple Hancock

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Flint, Barker, Johnston, Johnson Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1716 Message Board Post: Looking for information on a Flint family living in Columbia Co., NY in early 1800's. Robert Flint was born in 1808-9. He had a brother Harry, birth date unknown. Robert's mother was Dorothy Flint, b. about 1775 in Conn. Robert moved to Delaware Co., NY, around 1820-25, and married Laura L. ? around 1846. They had one son, William b. 1847, and an adopted daughter Martha, b. about 1846. In Robert's will dated 1857, he mentioned a Mahala Barker, wife of William Barker. If anyone has any information on this family, please contact me.

I read accounts of it years ago in a scrapbook and plotted, with my friends, to find the alleged mine that played a part in the myth. We never did get around to it though. What would you like to know? Wendy McLean

Is anyone familiar with or have information concerning the Vandercook-Beckwith Murder sensationalized in the Austerlitz, NY-Alford, MA area beginning in January 1882? The newspaper coverage lasted several years during Beckwith's trial. Thank you. Tim Masloski Sunderland, MA

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/1715 Message Board Post: I have a John P. Van Valkerburg married to Anne Riesdorph B-23 Nov 1755 in Red Hook, NY. Does this ring a bell???Could this be tied to your family. Fred

If you do Jay Family research, you may want to contact this man, Elmer Gates, he works on the Jay Family. Gates EA@aol.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: hiserote/hiserodt/hoysradt/heusradt Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/122.1 Message Board Post: Shawn I started investigating the Hiserodt/Hiserote name over a year ago, and then my husband died. I have not been too active on the computer for close to a year. I have information reagarding some of these names. It has been so long since I looked at it i will have to read it again. My great great grandfather's name was George Newton Hiserote, his son was George Elmer Hiserote, (went by Elmer) and then my dad Raymond Mooney Hiserote. George Newton is supposed to be from Iowa. I received a lot of information from some other Hiserotes regarding written documentation on the name. It goes back to the 1600's. Please contact me if you are interested. I have really been swamped with many chores that I have not had to do before. Plus I am starting a part time job soon to go with my full-time and taking computer classes. I guess you can tell I am busy. I am a Hiserote. My name is Barbara Jean, born in Beloit Kansas. Raymond was born in Milo, Kansas. George Elmer liv! ed in Colorado, not sure where he was born without looking at other stuff. Please feel free to contact me. thank you

Would the List Administrater please contact me privately? Margaret in NV

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SMITH, STEVES, WESTFALL, etc. Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1714 Message Board Post: Seeking information on the family of Solomon S. SMITH of Claverack, Kinderhook and Chatham. He was said to be the son of James SMITH "of Claverak". He lived in Claverack until after 1810, then Kinderhook, then settled in Chatham in 1819. Solomon appears to have had two wives, the second of whom was Mary WHITE (1783-1843), apparently connected to the WHITES of Hillsdale. Apparent children by both marriages were (not necessarily in birth order): (1) Cynthia SMITH m. Philip SMITH and settled in Woodstock, Ulster County, NY; (2) Abigail SMITH m. George LANE and settled by 1830's in Sodus, Wayne Co., NY, where she is described as a widow; (3) Charity SMITH m. first, John EMERY, second _____ HULSE, also apparently removed to Wayne County, NY; (4) Charlotte Mary SMITH m. Aaron SMITH; (5) Sally SMITH m. John W. SCHERMERHORN and relocated to Wayne Co., NY, thence to Michigan; (6) Catherine Eliza SMITH m. John G. WESTFALL in Kinderhook, removed to Wayne Co., NY; (7) Hannah SMITH m. Elijah S. M. STEVES; (8) Jane SMITH m. Jacob JARVIS; (9) Abram P. SMITH m. Elizabeth COTTEN, lived in N. Chatham, d. ca. 1901; (10) Lorena SMITH m. Ovid VINCENT in Wayne Co., NY; (11) John SMITH; (12) Amanda L. SMITH m. Henry DENISON; (13! ) Richard SMITH; (14) Charles SMITH; and (15) Phebe Ann SMITH. I would be happy to exchange information on any of the above families. broomjoe@yahoo.com.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1713.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you Karin, but this Darius doesn't have the same children as the Darius I am looking for.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BROWN FINCH BEERS HOUGHTALING Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1713.1 Message Board Post: Most likely he was the son of Jabez FINCH b.1850 and Rosannah REYNOLDS. You'll find them and many others at http://geocities.com/thummel_finch/adjfinch/d516.htm Fifth generation from JOHN Joseph Joseph Jabez JabezJr. Sometimes this site is hard to enter, if so write me and I'll send you the page directly. Karin at JayFamNY@webtv.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Finch Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1713 Message Board Post: >From the information I have my third great grandfather Darius Finch was born Aug. 31, 1792, Kinderhook, Columbia Co., NY. I would like to find evidence of this and find out who his parents were and any siblings he may have had.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: VAN VALKENBURG,RICHMOND Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1712 Message Board Post: i am looking for info on Isaac Van Valkenburg born may 1853 in New York, his son David born jan. 1879 in Kinderhook, ny. David eventually married Pauline Richmond and settled in Griswoldville, massachusettes. Any info would be a help!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1711.1 Message Board Post: Donna, because everyone is not named in the Census until 1850,this is difficult..However I suggest that you look for her in deeds index as she may have inherited from her parents.

I read Cliff's note with great interest. Many of you probably already know that the Episcopal Church of the United States keeps copious records too. Baptismal, wedding records, etc., are documented at each parish as a legal document. Beabe Thompson

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Pulver, Race Classification: Queries Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1711 Message Board Post: Smith Sutherland Pulver b. 1809 in Dutchess County, NY m. Eliza Jane_____(I need her maiden name). They had a daughter Mary Jane Pulver b. Oct. 1, 1837 in W.Copake, Columbia County, NY.....Mary Jane married Charles Wesley Race abt. 1857 they moved to Chicago abt. 1863. I need Eliza Janes maiden name..........djk1031@aol.com