Grace, I forgot to point out that Albany, Buffalo and Yonkers began collecting their vital records earlier than the rest of New York State. Albany started in 1870 (according to the city's Vital Statistics office), and the other two cities about the same time. Cliff. Grace Coffman wrote: > I think this question has been asked before but I have combed the archives > and cannot find it. Where would I write to see if a death certirficate for > 1870 is available in Austerlitz? > > -Grace

Grace, Vital records in NY were not preserved before 1880, except for a 1-3 year period around 1847. You might want to read my webpage concerning various kinds of NY Records which explains this and a lot more. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~clifflamere/Aid/AID-NYRecords.htm Cliff Grace Coffman wrote: > I think this question has been asked before but I have combed the archives > and cannot find it. Where would I write to see if a death certirficate for > 1870 is available in Austerlitz? > > -Grace

Grace, contact a volunteer for RAOGK. Candi (RAOGK for Alameda County, CALIF)

I think this question has been asked before but I have combed the archives and cannot find it. Where would I write to see if a death certirficate for 1870 is available in Austerlitz? -Grace

I was hoping someone would have the addresses for, or directions, or know approximatly where these cemeteries are: Chatham Rural Cemetery, Town of Chatham Green River Cemetery, Town of Austerlitz Villiage Cemetery, Town of Hillsdale Thank you *so* much! I am also wondering, does anyone know of any volunteers willing ot take photos in these cemeteries? I cannot find any and really dont want to have to drive from Nebraska to NY to take these shots myself LOL Thanks all so much! -Grace

WScism5624@aol.com is looking for the genealogy of this family for personal interests and a school project on genealogy. > Thanks for the info Jeff. My husband Wendell, is son of Byron R. Scism and > Dorothy Miller. His paternal grandfather was Ray Scism married to Cora > Proper. The Ancram, NY cemetery is full of Scism's, dating several > generations back. Unfortunately, Wendell's parents both died some time ago > and he has very little to go on now. This is pretty sad, but he does not > know anything about the Scism's, beyond his paternal grandfather. > Martha Scism WScism5624@aol.com Jeffery G. Scism, IBSSG Flockmaster <A HREF="http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com/">http://blacksheep.rootsweb.com</A> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blacksheep List Subscriptions (this is NOT an AD...it is an AID- OK?) Click on the appropriate link, and just send the email form <A HREF="mailto:Blacksheep-L-request@rootsweb.com?SUBJECT=SUBSCRIBE&BODY=SUBSCRIBE">Subscribe Blacksheep LIST</A> <A HREF="mailto:Blacksheep-L-request@rootsweb.com?SUBJECT=UNSUBSCRIBE&BODY=UNSUBSCRIBE">UNsubscribe Blacksheep LIST</A> <A HREF="mailto:Blacksheep-D-request@rootsweb.com?SUBJECT=SUBSCRIBE&BODY=SUBSCRIBE">Subscribe Blacksheep DIGEST</A> <A HREF="mailto:Blacksheep-D-request@rootsweb.com?SUBJECT=Unsubscribe&BODY=Unsubscribe">Unsubscribe Blacksheep Digest</A>

Could this be of help? Descendants of Sara Schutt 1 Sara Schutt b: Feb 3, 1765 d: Jul 20, 1828 in NY .+Wilhelmus Overbaugh b: Jan 3, 1753 d: May 1826 in Kiskatom, NY m: 1786 in NY ....2 Petrus Overbaugh b: Feb 20, 1787 in Old Catskill, NY d: Mar 17, 1874 in Kiskatom, NY ........+Sally Townsend b: Mar 27, 1787 in Catskill, Dutchess Co., NY d: Apr 23, 1869 in Kiskatom, NY m: Jun 16, 1810 ....2 Jeremiah Overbaugh b: Apr 13, 1787 in Catskill, NY d: Mar 14, 1869 in Kiskatom, NY ........+Gertrude Schermerhorn b: Aug 10, 1797 in Catskill, NY d: Apr 25, 1868 in Kiskatom, NY m: Oct 26, 1815 ....2 John Overbaugh b: May 9, 1792 in Catskill, NY d: Feb 14, 1843 ........+Heleanah Manning b: Jun 25, 1796 in Catskill, NY d: Oct 31, 1855 m: Feb 21, 1813 in Katsbaan, NY ....2 Elizabeth Overbaugh b: 1794 in Katsbaan, NY d: May 1854 ....2 Solomon Overbaugh b: Sep 16, 1796 in Catskill, NY d: Mar 10, 1875 in Catskill, NY ........+Catharine Layman b: Aug 25, 1796 in Catskill, NY d: Oct 17, 1878 m: Nov 1, 1817 in Katsbaan, NY ....2 Abraham Overbaugh b: Jul 2, 1799 in Catskill, NY d: in d.y. ....2 William Overbaugh b: 1802 d: in d.y. Chuck Townsend    Clio, Michigan     ICQ# 4432153 <mailto:CDT3@PERCEPTIONET.COM> -----Original Message----- From: Tinkbe@aol.com [mailto:Tinkbe@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 7:44 PM To: c Subject: [NYCOL] Re: Sarah Schutt This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Scott Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/408.411 Message Board Post: Hi, I am just starting to do my family tree. I saw something on a site about Sarah Schutt in a Church registry in New York. Email me your email address and I will go back and try to find it again. Egads there are so many sites. Viola ______________________________

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Kells Classification: Will Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1766 Message Board Post: Columbia County, New York Claverack B-14 Source: Transcribed from SAMPUBCO copy The Last Will and Testament of Johannis Kells Registered the 19th Jan 1799. In the name of God Amen This thirteenth Day of March One Thousand seven hundred and ninety eight. I Johannis Kells of the Town of Claverack in the County of Columbia and State of New York. Yeoman, being in perfect good health at Present and of a sound disposing mind, memory and Understanding, Thanks to the almighty for the same, do make publish and dicta the Following Instrument to be my last will and Testament in the manner following- First of all I recommend my soul into the hands of Almighty God and my body to the Earth to be buried in a decent and Christian like manner at the discretion of my Beloved wife and children. My Temporal Estate I dispose of in the following manner right after payment of my honest debts if any and funeral charges. I do give devise and bequeath unto my sons Hendrich and Johannis all my Real Estate or Farm whereon I now do live together with house, out houses, barn, orchards, arable lands, Meadows, and all the other appurtenances thereunto belongi! ng or any wise appertaining also for the run of the said Farm. One quarter share of the saw Mill with its appurtenances as also room or place to Lodge, deposit or store the logs for the use of said Farm with free ingress, egress and regress in to and from the said saw mill they supporting the said saw Mill with their proportionable and necessary quarter share of expenses and repair. To have and to hold the said Real Estate or Farm and the said Quarter share of the said saw mill under the provision herein after mentioned. ???? my said sons, Hendrick and Johannis, their heirs and assigns, forever - In consideration they ??? ??? ???? Hendrick and Johannis their Heirs or agents shall yearly and every year pay or cause to be paid ??? widow Elizabeth or her ???? the one third part of the produce and income of the said hereby divided and ???? Real Estate or Farm is by her thereunto requested any part or the whole also the use and occupation the one third part of the dwelling hou! se, barn and out houses on the said Farm during her natural life. Likewise I do ordain and it is my positive will that my said sons Hendrick and Johannis their heirs and assigns as and for a further consideration for the within divided and my quartered premises shall pay or cause to be payed the sum of four hundred and fifty pounds ???? to say each of them the sum of two hundred and twenty and twenty five pounds lawful money of the state of New York to be divided among my three sons and two daughters viz. Jacob, Peter, Abraham, Marion and Elizabeth their heirs or assigns share and share alike, ~. To my son Philip and to his heirs and assigns I do give divise and bequeath my other quarter share of the saw mill as also my half share of the grist mill. Together with ten acres of land on both sides of the creek adjoining and around the said mill seats for and in consideration whereof he my said son Philip his heirs or assigns shall pay or cause to be paid the sum of fifty pou! nds the like money aforesaid unto my above named five children, Jacob, Peter, Abraham, Marion, and Elizabeth their heirs and assigns to ????? divided among them share and share alike so that it may be well understood, that out of the above bequeathed four hundred and fifty pounds and the better sum of fifty pounds amounting in the whole to the sum of five hundred pounds the above named five children their heirs and assigns shall ????? may draw and receive of and from the above named Hendrick, Johannis and Philip as is proportioned ???? ????? their heirs and assigns the sum of one hundred pounds lawful money of New York. Each of them ???? their heirs or assigns~. All the farming utensils and appurtenances belonging to waggon, st???, plows, harrows and all other implements, tools or other appurtenances belonging to the farm, also all ???? appurtenances belonging to the barn. I do hereby ordain to be and remain on the farm in later ???? for the use of my sons Hendrick and Jo! hannis their heirs and assigns for Ever ~. To my widow Elizabeth I do give and bequeath a full and compleat feather bedd with all its appurtenances ???? ???? the third part of the household furniture during her natural life ~. All the remaining ???? personal estate not desposed of I do give and bequeath unto all my children their heirs and assigns viz. Hendrick, Johannis, Philip, Peter, Jacob, Abraham, Maria and Elizabeth to be divided ???? them share and share alike ~. And lastly I do nominate and appoint my sons Peter, Johannis and Philip, also my trusty friend and brother in law Christopher Ha????? To be my lawful executors of this my last and testament- in testimony whereof ???? hereunto set my hand and seal the day and year within written ~?~?~ Entered on the margin of the second page before signed and sealed Johannis Kells signed sealed published and declaired by the testator as and for his last will and testament in the presence of us each other Abraham L ?Tinda?, ! Rosea Wiessmor, Peter Wiessmor ~. Panbriefs; be it remembered that on the 16th day of January in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninty nine Peter Wiessmor of Claverack in the county of Columbia Esq. Appeared before me Philip L Hoffanan surrogate of the said county and being duly sworn saith that he saw Johann Kells sign and seal the within instrument purporting to be the last will and Testament of the same Johannis and heard him publish and declare the same as and for his last will and Testament ~. That at the time of executing thereof he the said Johannis was of sound and disposing mind and memory to the best of the knowledge and belief of the deponent and that Abraham L ?Fonda? Ros??? Weissmor and the deponent severally subscribed their names as witnesses to the said will in the presence of the testator ~.~. Signature signature Columbia?? Be it also remembered that on the said 16th day of January in the said year of our Lord 1799 the executors named in the within will of Johannis Ke! lls appeared before me Philip L Hoffman surrogate of the county of Columbia and were duly sworn to the true execution and performance of the said will by taking the oath by law append ~. Signature of Philip L Hoffman. The PEOPLE of the state of New York by the grace of God free and independent to all to whom these presents shall come or may concern send greetings KNOW YE that at Livingston in the county of Columbia on the day of the date hereof before Philip L Hoffman Esq. Surrogate of our said county the last will and Testament of Johannis Kells deceased (a copy where of is hereinto annexed) was proved and is now approved and allowed of by us, and the said deceased having whilst he lived and at the time of his death goods, chattles or credits within this state by means whereof the proving and regestering the said will and the granting administration of all and singular the goods, chattles, and credits and also the auditing allowing and final discharging the account thereof doth belong unto us; the administration of all and singular the goods chattles and credits of the said deceased and any way concerning his will is granted unto Hendrick Kells, Johannis Kells, Philip Kells, and Christop! her Hagedorn the executors in the said will named they being first duly sworn will faithfully to administer the same and to make and exhibit a true and perfect inventory and singular the said goods, chattles and credits and also to render a first and ???? thereof when thereunto required - in testimony whereof we have caused the seal of office of our said surrogate to be hereunto affixed witness ???? ?????? surrogate of our said county at Livingston aforesaid the 16th day of January ???? our Lord one thousand seven hundred ninty nine and of our independence twenty ???? Philip L Hoffman signature.

Re previous posting. It looks like none of these people were kind enough to be buried as one of Cliff LaMere's 60,000. Don

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Meyerdiercks, Meyer, Weirsinger Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1765 Message Board Post: John & Henry Meyerdierks owned farms in Germantown according to the 1900 census. The town historian says she lives next to what used to be a big farm of Henry's. John married a Carrie/Caroline/Karoline Weirsinger. Others with a name similar to Meyerdiercks may have lived in the area from time to time. A Richard Meyerdierks married a Cqaroline Meyer. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Don

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: SMITH, BABCOCK, STOWELL, ORMAN, MAXWELL Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/856.915.979.993.997.996.1011.1013.1 Message Board Post: Warren, Thanks so much responding concerning Catherine Smith, b. 12/11/1763. It sounds like a really good lead. My gggGrandfather, Charles Babcock married a Catherine/Catharine Smith about 1780 in Hillsdale, Columbia Co., NY. They had four children, Job, Eunice, Abiram and Stephen. Please email me at LFan1@nycap.rr.com and if this looks like it may be the same Catherine, I will send you their descendents. Also if you have the information on Catherine's family, it would be super. I haven't really tried to trace Catherine because of the last name of Smith. Regards, Laurien Babcock Fan Laurie

From: warrenbeeman@cs.com To: NYCOLUMB-L@rootsweb.com This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/856.915.979.993.997.996.1011.1013 Message Board Post: I have a catherine born 12/11/1763 in red hook most of the family moved to columbia county. I do not know now who she married

I am a Shultes descendant. I have a Catherine Shultes b 1724 who married John Bastian Jacobi, died April 8, 1785. She had 6 brothers. My Johan David had no daughter Catherine, but maybe she was the daughter of one of the others? Can you send me more data & I can look for a connection? Regards, Candi

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: BROWN FINCH BEERS HOUGHTAILING FRINK RICH LOW Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1763 Message Board Post: Still looking for Amos BROWN s.o. Amos and UNK, grandson of Thomas BROWN and Deborah WELLES. They left Chatham about 1800 for Middlefield Otsego. siblings were Aaron 1788, Joseph 1800 and Robert.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/986.1074.1.1 Message Board Post: Susan, Thank you so very much for your kindness and especially your promptness. My e-mail went down right after I posted the message or I would have been equally prompt! If I could impose on you further, does the name "Haldrin" have any significance for you? I have only found it referred to in the masculine, which led me to consider the possibility that it is actually an adaptation of a surname. Interestingly, it turns up as a soundex equivalent of the "Holdron" surname and the brief research I've done so far, indicates the possibility of some Holdron families present in the area around Livingston Manor in around the same time period. Would you mind checking the index one more time for the Gallatin Church records for any Holdron variants? I'm also wondering if you have any knowledge of how to access the tenant rolls for Livingston Manor without having to take a trip to New York since I live in MN. Any suggestions? By the way, if you ever have any names I could look up for you in the Rochester, Olmsted County, MN area I would be delighted to return the favor. Thanks again, Beth Plaetzer

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Andrews, Webster Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1762 Message Board Post: My original fourteen year old "Brick Wall" still exist. I have been trying to find the parents and sibling of my 2nd great grandfather since I first started tracing my genealogy. We know Robert Andrews was born 24 November 1807, or at least celebrated that birthday. He married Huldah Eugenie Webster daughter of Noah John Webster (a farmer) and Desire Alling of Hillsdale, Columbia County, New York. The Webster's are descendants of John Webster 5th Colonial Governor of Connecticut. Robert and Huldah were married about 1833, it is believed in Hillsdale, Columbia County, New York. They lived from 1833 to 1844 in Montezuma, Cayuga County, New York. Three sons were born in Montezuma, Cayuga County, New York Josiah Webster Andrews 1834, Vincent Coryell Andrews 1838 and Tyler Harrison Andrews 1844. Chilson Elmer Andrews was born in Lowell, Dodge County, Wisconsin on 31 December 1846. Chilson died as a boy in Lowell, Wisconsin. Robert and Huldah grew old and are buried in Lowell. Tyler took over Robert farms in Lowell when Robert retire. I am in contact with Tyler's ancestors Vincent is my great grandfather and was a school teacher and father in Concord, Dodge County, Minnesota Josiah died in Pierce County, Wisconsin, no known children. Does anyone know where Robert came from? Does he have any ancestors or siblings? We thought he may be from Herkimer County, but that has proven to be a dead end. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1749.1.4.1.1 Message Board Post: Dolores, Can you help me please? Do you have any online sites you could send me for the above subject...Columbia County Historical Society & Rhinebeck Church. I would appreciate the help. Thank you so much. Viola

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: MYER/SHULTIS Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1761 Message Board Post: Researching SIMON JOHNSON MYER family early 1800s from Claverack area. Simon married CATHERINE SHULTIS (?) early 1800s. He died 1826. She 1878. Both burried in Claverack. Several children including PETER TEN BROECK, JOHN, ROBERT BEEKMAN, RUTH (married LOCKWOOD BEARDSLEY) and CORNELIA MYER. There are many descendants of the aforementioned Myers. Later, Catherine lived in Saugerties with Cornelia, who never married. Cornelia is 1/2 sister of my gg grandfather SEBASTIAN M SHULTIS.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Scott Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1739.5 Message Board Post: Hi, I am just starting the process of looking up my family tree. Can you tell me do you have any sites for Hillsdale - Columbia County in New York. Also do you have any info. on SCOTT in the Hillsdale 1800 Census. I would appreciate any help if you would be so kind. Thank you for your time. Viola

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Scott Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1739.4 Message Board Post: Hi, I am just starting the process of looking up my family tree. Can you tell me do you have any sites for Hillsdale - Columbia County in New York. Also do you have any info. on SCOTT in the Hillsdale 1800 Census. I would appreciate any help if you would be so kind. Thank you for your time. Viola