Hi All, I'm doing "Family Tree" research on my g-grandma's family, who were from Columbia County. Her mother's name was Sarah (Sally) Ann Simmons, born in 1827. Christened at St. John's Church in Manorton. There were 10 children in this family. Sarah's brothers and sisters were: Levi, William N., Harry, Jonas R., Betsey, Caty(Katy or Catherine), John Alexander, Hannah Margaret, and Lucinda. They were born between the years1813 and 1835. The Simmons name was also "Simmon" and sometimes "Simon." Jonas R. Simmons fought in the Civil War and died in Albany in 1917, at the age of 85 yrs. The Simmons Family lived in Gallatin in southern Columbia County( and also Ancram). The parents of these children were Nicholas C. (Conrad) Simmons and Catherine Gerritzen, also spelled, Garrison. This part of my family was Native American(American Indian). If anyone out there has the last name of "Simmons" or "Gerritzen/Garrison" somewhere in their family tree, or you know of a fr! iend or co-worker,etc. who does, I would really enjoy hearing from you/them. Also, does anyone know of any other records that exist for Columbia County besides church christenings/marriages? Thanks for any help or info. that you can give me !! Kind Regards, Cliff Clayton

Hi All, On June 8th, I was informed of a sale of a tombstone on Ebay which happens to be my great great grandfather's first wife's stone. I contacted Ebay and they withdrew the sale. I contacted the seller and even had the local police contact him. He has since emailed with a nasty note say "YOU TELL ME WHERE IT GOES. AND I WILL TAKE CARE OF IT." Her name was Louisa Marston and she died in Salisbury, CT on Dec. 5, 1856. There is no record of burial in Salisbury that I have been able to find. Louisa's husband Erastus D. Marston spent most of his life in Copake and Hillsdale (mostly Copake), he was a blacksmith and probably lived and worked near the Copake Iron Works. His second wife Harriet (McIntosh) Marston died in Copake on 18 June 1889 and her death certificate says she was buried in Copake Iron Works. Does anyone know of a cemetery in or near Copake Iron Works? I do know that the foundry is now in the Taconic State Park. And I am going to call the park department on Monday. I am thinking that perhaps Louisa Marston was buried there also. Any help would be much appreciated as I would like to reset the stone. The man who has possession of it will not return it until I find out where it goes. Regards, Susan ************************************************* "If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance." -- George Bernard Shaw Columbia County, NY Coordinator http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/2341.3.1.1 Message Board Post: My Chauncey Maxfield was born about 1820 in New York--family history says his wife's name was Maria. Children of this Chauncey are Abram, Ephraim, and Edward--all of Lapeer County, Michigan. Chauncey moved to Michigan at some point, but do not know when. Abram was drummer/flag bearer in Civil War. Does any of this match your information? Please e-mail with your response. Thanks and happy hunting!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Schutt Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/2344.1.2 Message Board Post: Hello I am related to the Schutt family of Mt Washington and I have a considerable amount of information regarding the town, surrounding towns and other families I could share with you if you would be interested. Please let me know. Michele

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: JONAS, DONSHEA, MERRITT Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1638.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Cathy, I haven' t really researched Louis Paul Jonas but here are a few links and tidbits about him. The last is a cached version of his biography. I Biography & Genealogy Master Index (BGMI) - References Name: Jonas, Louis Paul Birth - Death: 1894- Source Citation: Who Was Who in American Art. Compiled from the original thirty-four volumes of American Art Annual: Who's Who in Art, Biographies of American Artists Active from 1898-1947. Edited by Peter Hastings Falk. Madison, CT: Sound View Press, 1985. (WhAmArt 1) Who Was Who in American Art. 400 years of artists in America. Second edition. Three volumes. Edited by Peter Hastings Falk. Madison, CT: Sound View Press, 1999. (WhAmArt 2) Louis Paul Jonas Studios Inc. *** Grandson David Merritt, grew up in the studio and environs, and is now president of the company. David Merritt - [email protected] http://www.jonasstudios.com Some animal sculptures - Louis Paul Jonas http://www.askart.com/AskART/artists/search/Search_Repeat.aspx?searchtype=IMAGES&artist=105515 National Museum of Wildlife Art - Jackson Wyoming Cached biography of Louis Paul Jonas http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:6IPhqIxPndQJ:www.wildlifeart.org/Collections/ArtistBio.cfm%3FtArtistid%3D233%26tUrl%3DArtistBioMain.cfm%26UrlName%3DArtist%2520Biographies+%22louis+paul+jonas%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=8 -- Cathy, I couldn't access the original page at Google.com, so below is the cached version of Jonas' biography: "Artist Biography Louis Paul Jonas Origin:Hungary Profession:Sculptor Born:July 17, 1894, Budapest, Hungary Died:February 16, 1971, Churchtown, New York Louis Paul Jonas attended art school in Budapest before coming to the United States at the age of 14. Upon his arrival, he began work at his brother’s taxidermy studio in Denver, Colorado. There, he was able to study the anatomy of many different animals. Jonas then moved to New York City, where he studied with the internationally known naturalist, animal sculptor, and taxidermist Carl Akeley (1864-1926). Like Akeley, Jonas favored African wildlife and together they created the famous African Elephant Group that remains on exhibit in Akeley Hall at the American Museum of Natural History in New York City. After service in World War I, Jonas returned to the Natural History Museum, where he worked on installations in the Hall of Asian Mammals. At this time, his sculptures began to be exhibited at the National Academy of Design. In 1930, Jonas completed Commemorating the Grizzly Bear, a mother bear protecting her cub, for the Denver Municipal Park, which shows the influe! nce of the Art Deco movement. Eventually, Jonas abandoned taxidermy to concentrate on sculpture and, in 1939, opened a studio in Mahopac, New York. "Jonas may be one of the lesser-known American animal sculptors, but he was no less significant. During his career, he was commissioned to create many life-size sculptures including the Grizzly Bear and Cubs at the Denver Museum of Natural History, nine Dinosaurs for the Sinclair Oil Company exhibit at the 1964 New York World’s Fair, and a Rhinoceros for the Davenport Public Museum in Iowa, as well as a dog for fellow sculptor Anna Hyatt Huntington. Jonas was also a member of the American Association of Museums and the New York Zoological Society." Hope this helps. If you ever come across anything about Clement DONSHEA, please let me know. Thanks and good luck with your research. Karen Mohr, [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/1516.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I wish I could say I have records for thier parents but as of yet I haven't found them. My grandma Josey has more than 10,000 geneological sheets collected from Australia and other places tracing down our ancestors. I have yet to go through each sheet but will be happy to keep you up to date on what I uncover as I find each item out. Some of her records came from Salt Lake City, Utah from the Church of Jesus Christ and Latter Day Saints. My nana was a mormon. So her and my Aunt spent a great many years getting these records together. They started collecting these records in 1975. I just have yet to sort them all out. (Also, some of her records are in duplicate and triplicate.)I still have to go to my moms in Arkansas and get the remaining records. ( I will do that next month, planning to go 4th of July.) I am bringing them one trunk load at a time. If you will be patient with me I will let you know what I uncover. I check this site daily for more info. I dont want to take t! his lightly,so it has been time consuming. I am diligent in this endevour. As I had mentioned earlier I have been working on this part of the family for the last 8 months. I will get back to you with more info at a later date. You can file away my e-mail addy and write to me again if you wish to see if I have made any more progress.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jonas Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/1638.1 Message Board Post: Karen, With reference to the obituaries which you posted for Clement Horatio Donshea, do you have any further information about Louis Paul Jonas? If so, I would greatly appreciate hearing from you about him. Many thanks, Cathy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1516.1.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: What kind of records did your grandmother collect? Bible records? I have a lot of stuff on the family that I would be glad to share, but I have nothing on Daniel, but I have always wondered about him. He is very near to them in San Augustine. Do you have any pictures? I don't have any pictures of them, except one of Lucretia Brown Cole's second daughter Sarah, my great grandmother. Do you have any records of Squire's death or birth? Do you know who their parents were? I have some suspects, but no proof. Linda Bowden

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/1516.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: All I have in the way of any proof is my grandmother Josey's family data records she collected. I am still trying to verify most of what I have. Some of my records have already be proven valid by other family members. However due to the lack of "valid" records for anything spelled out in black in white for a woman prior to 1850, other than the occasional land record, there isnt much to go on. Tracking a woman back then just did not seem a real priority as they are only counted as an age group, making real *hard evidence* a thing of "LUCK" if you should find something. I am still working on this family, and have been for the last 8 months. Should I come across something more concrete I will let you know. Thanks for the correction for Jesse T. Cole. I will fix that in my records. I had actually had the initial in papers as a B. until I found the one from census showing it to be the E. By the way, nice to converse with you as well cousin. :-)

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1516.1.1.1.2 Message Board Post: I agree with most of what you have posted, but I have some questions and some corrections. I have never found any proof of the date of Squire and Lucretia's marriage. Have you found that proof? I also have found no connection between Daniel and this family other than they were both in San Augustine at the same time. Do you have a further proof? By way of correction, Jesse T Cole married Lucretia Brown in Oct 1837. The E is a mistake made by the census taker. I have found proof that the E should be T in a land record in Bell County Texas. Glad to meet you cousin. LInda Bowden

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Owen, Silvernail, McIntyre, Weaver Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/98.780.2.3.1 Message Board Post: Doris, John & Eliza Wentworth Silvernail are in my family. John is a relation thru the Silvernail line and Eliza Wentworth is a granddaughter of Peter Owen of my Owen line. Peter Owen's dau, Ursula married Cornelius McIntyre their son, Stephen is the father of Edward McIntyre. Please get in touch so we can share information.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/1516.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: More info for ya: Eliza Ann Brown (Davis married name) appears on the 10/5/1850, 8/1/1860, 7/13/1870, and 6/ 8-9/ 1880 US Federal Census for San Augustine County, TX . William Hiram Brown filed a land grant on two pieces of land on 6/29/1853 in Liberty District, Tyler County, TX. Patent # 1356, Patent volume 6, Class; Lib 3rd for 264.70 acres, file 223 and also certificate 58, patent date also 6/29/1853 for 55.30 acres also Liberty District, Tyler County, TX patent #1357, volume 6, Class; Lib 3rd. He is also Buried in Hoyles Spring Cemetery in Angelina County, TX. Also, Harriett appears on the 12/15/1850 US Federal Census (Married name Wilson) for Newton County, TX. She is Buried in Rice Wilson Cemetery, in Leggett, Polk County, TX.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/1516.1.1.1 Message Board Post: This is the information I have: Squire Brown was born 1775 in New York and died before 1825 in San Augustine County, Texas wed Lucretia Vreedenbergh born 1780 in Canada and died before 1850 in San Augustine County, Texas. They wed in Washington County, New York in 1794. Children: 1) Daniel Brown born 1795 New York 2) Samuel Brown born 8/31/1798, Livingston, Columbia County, NY, Baptised 11/4/1798 Linlithgo Reformed Church, Livington, Columbia County, NY 3) Hiram Brown born 1807 Washington County, NY wed 1832 Nacogdoches County, TX to Katherine Blackburn born 1806 Arkansas. Hiram died 2/26/1883 in Homer, Angelina County, TX and Katherine died 1886 in Homer, Angelina County, TX. (They had 3 children.) 4) Squire Brown, Jr. born 1808 Whitehall, Washington County, NY wed 1845 in TX to Sarah Smithwick born 1810 NC. Squire died 1850 Angelina County, TX . (They had 3 children.) 5) Lucretia Brown born 1815 NY wed 10/17/1837 in San Augustine, The Republic of TX to Jesse E. Cole born 1814 NC. Lucretia died about 1855 in Angelina County, TX and Jesse died April 1875 in Comanche County, TX. (They had 6 children.) 6) Eliza Ann Brown born 1818 in Ohio wed 10/17/1837 in San Augustine, The Republic of Texas to Edward B. Davis born 1812 in Missouri, he died 1869 in San Augustine County, Tx and she died 1890 in San Augustine County, TX. (They had 8 children.) 7) William Hiram Brown born 1824 San Augustine County, TX wed 3/29/1849 to Mary Ann Veitch born 8/24/1824 in Maryland. She died 3/19/1912 in Angelina County, Tx and he died 1856 in Angelina County, TX. (They had 1 child I can find thus far.) and last but not least: 8) Harriett Brown born 1825 in Louisiana wed 8/26/1843 in Nicholas County, Virginia to Francis (Frank) Wilson born 7/21/1824 Nicholas County, Virginia. He died 8/22/1893 in Polk County, TX and she died 3/23/1886 in Polk County, TX. (They had 8 children.) I hope this information helps. I am still digging further yet into this info as well as rumors I have heard as well. This is all I have so far though and I hope it helps.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/2495.2 Message Board Post: What was the time frame,should be in the Census..

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Vreedenburg Brown Cole Davis Bates Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1516.1.1 Message Board Post: That is the right family. Lucretia Vreedenburg Brown was my gggg grandmother. Her daughter Lucretia that married Jesse Cole was my ggg grandmother. You mentioned that Samuel was their second son. Do you have a complete list of the children and where they were born? I assumed that Samuel was first. Do you know where they married and where they were born? When did they come to the United States? Lucretia says on her land grant papers that she was born in Keneda. Not sure if that is acurate. She also said she was Catholic and we know that to be inacurate. Linda Bowden

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/2495.1 Message Board Post: There were many in NY.I wonder if Historical Society in Columbia Co would have a record.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Vreedenbergh/ Brown Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/1516.1 Message Board Post: I can tell you Lucretia Vreedenbergh and Squire Brown, are the Parents of one of my ggggrandparents Mrs. Harriet Brown who married Francis Wilson, who begat Elizabeth Lucretia Wilson who married Travis Evander Josey, who begat James Edward Josey who married Emilia Dorthus Josey, and begat my Grandmother Margaret Elizabeth Josey who married my Grandpfather Floyd Mainer Curry. By the way the child being baptised at the Linthigo Church on 8/31/1798 was Samuel Brown who was thier 2nd born child.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/2495 Message Board Post: Trying to find descriptive info, possibly patient records for Potts Memorial Hospital for tuberulosis patients. Where exactly was it? What became of it? Patient names: Peder Andersen, Elvira Bartels (Bertelsen), possibly Ethelyn Bartels (Bertelsen). THANK YOU so much!!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Holmes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/2494 Message Board Post: Revolutionary War pension records show that a John Holmes of Columbia County enlisted with Captain Fowler's Company in the second New York Regiment Commanded by Col. Philip Van Cortlandt. Pay records put his birth in or about 1745. It appears that he may have lived in Ulster County for a period before and after the War. However, he may have moved back to Columbia as a John Holmes is listed in the 1800 census in the township of Canaan. I am trying to prove that this man is the father of my 3rd great grandfather, George Holmes. George's birth date, as given in a family Bible, was February 7, 1798. He gave his birth place in the 1865 NY census as Dutchess county (perhaps near the Columbia border??). Has anyone come across any information on a John Holmes in Columbia that coincides with what I've outlined above? I know that, if the dates I have are right, this John was getting up there in years by the time my George was born...but there are a number of other facts that match nicely with the family lore regarding George's heritage. Any information or guidance would be appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/2485.2.1.1 Message Board Post: no I do not have a copy of the supplement, Warren