This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/2509.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: No I have cousins in Valatie etc.Did you know George & Pat Burnett? He has died but buried there.His wife lives here in Owego but has a sister in Columbia Co...My cousins are Nabozny's.Mike s in the Peace Corps in Africa.My husband was from HudsonHis.Cousin has candy store in Hudson following grandfather's vocation.I grew up in Catskill but did not know about the Tompkins& more.My dad was from Saugerties...I finally got to Richard's store ...Was coming but the flood changed plans.Could not get out of town here.Worked with another Haines (Lorraine) whose husband died recently.(John Rich)....Greene Co Historical Society has done a lot! Dolores

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/2509.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for your suggestion. I have since E-mailed Mr. Frisbie asking him to post our notice. Do you live in Columbia County, Dolores ? My in-laws live in Valatie so we go there fairly often. I have seen many old cemeteries in that area that need repairs. But, I wouldn't know who to contact. If you know someone in the Kinderhook, Chatham, Stuyvesant area that needs help with an old cemetery, please have them E-mail me. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hatch Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1926.1.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, I have a two vol. genealogy book on the Hatch family entitled, " Genealogy & History of The Hatch Family, Descendants of Thomas & Grace Hatch of Dorchester, Yarmouth, & Barnstable, Massachusetts." Your Nymphus Hatch is mentioned on page 433. I have information about him, his wife, his children and the book traces him back six generations to the immigrant, Thomas Hatch. However, this information has nothing to do with Columbia County, so I don't want to post it here.If you want this information, I will post it on the Hatch Rootsweb Board, just let me know. Nancy Downey

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/2509.1.1 Message Board Post: Might post on both Greene Co sites,Hope Farm,Richard Frisbie has a great store,.I got her name wrong.Its Barb Simpkins.Thats a celebration in Catskill I think....Dolores

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/2511.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Eastern Columbia County was once considered Massachusetts. Hillsdale was a Massachusetts colony settlement by an earlier name. Contact the Columbia County historian for further information on "The Oblong" as the area was known before becoming New York.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sager Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/2511.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for your good ideas. I am doing my research from Canada and not yet come up with a map of the earlier versions of Columbia County. I understand the Sagers may have lived at one point in Hillsdale, not far from the MA border, making Shay's rebellion a possibility for their move. Apparently they also lived in Ghent, Claverack, and Churchtown, closer to the Hudson R. I have found Adam Sager's name on a list of 'Claimants for Losses in the Province of Quebec' , but have seen no other indication that they would have been Loyalists.

Hi, I am trying to find info on the following brothers - who they married and if they had children - they are half brothers of my ancestor - they are sons of Albertus Simon, Sr. 2-JOHANN FRIEDERICK SIMON b. 20 Jan 1754 Rhinebeck LC 2-JOHANN MATTHEUS SIMON b. 21 Mar 1756 Rhinebeck LC Barbara _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/2511.1 Message Board Post: You will find the Canadian land records superior to the New York set. 1790 is late for Loyalist resettlement. Could this person have migrated from then eastern Columbia County deemed Massachusetts? Many folks left as a result of Shays Rebellion? Land in Upper Canada was handed out in generous amounts while no tilable land was available in the colonies until after the Northwest Ordinance was approved.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Sager/Seager Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VRB.2ACE/2511 Message Board Post: I am looking for information on David Sager (married to Hannah Barbara Eckhard), who moved to Missisquoi County, Quebec, in the early 1790's with his large family (including sons Michael and Adam Sager). I believe they moved from Dutchess County to Columbia County (Claverack) in the early 1770's. I am wondering if they were Loyalists, and if their move to Canada would have been prompted by the Revolutionary War. Does anyone know how I can check this out?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1926.1.2.1.2.1 Message Board Post: At the time that the five-generation book was published, Peter Hill didn't know where the original diary was. I hadn't heard that it had been located. I do have a couple of issues with the book. Elisha Hatch (#68) is listed as having three grandsons named Samuel Hatch, the sons of Samuel (291), Elisha (292), and Matthew (295). I believe there is good evidence only for the Samuel who was the son of Matthew. The story of Samuel who was son of Samuel (291) comes from a book entitled "The Annals of Oxford, New York", which connects him with a fanciful and anachronistic tale of pirates. The Samuel who was the son of Elisha (292) is listed with a birth date of 4 May 1761 in Oxford NY. Oxford didn't exist then and there were few, if any, Europeans in the area. However, John Hatch, son of Samuel (291) WAS born on 4 May 1761 and later settled in Oxford. I haven't found any indication of any other Hatch family there. John Hatch was my ancestor.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Hatch, Crippen, Barrows Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1926.1.2.1.2 Message Board Post: Willard Crippen Frost transcribed Judge Hatch's Journal while in North Carolina during the 1920's. Correct. That first rendition is in both the Ohio Historical Society Library in Columbus and the Historical Society Library in Athens where Judge Hatch lived and served as State Senator. The original Journal later returned to Washington and Athens Counties in Ohio where is was published privately by a major paper manufacturer. Copies of that published rendition are also in OG&HS Library in Columbus and in Athens at both the Ohio University library and the OGS library. Presently the original Journal is in Massachusetts in a private collection. Peter Hill researched the Hatch family carefully up through the fifth Doty generation. Judge Hatch's eldest sister Comfort Hatch married Hosea Crippen. The Judge and Comfort were fifth gen Doty family members and sixth gen Francis Eaton family members. I have since found a fresh new Hatch cemeterty in Washington County New York bu! t there seems to be little impact on Hill's five generation conclusions.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1926.2 Message Board Post: Hi Rose, Isaac Hatch had a brother Ebenezer born 28 July 1766 in Hillsdale. I found this in Ebenezer's Revolutionary War pension file and he states that his brother Isaac has the family bible which states his birth date and that Isaac resided in Hillsdale as of 14 December 1832 when he made is depositon. An Elisha Hatch resided in Hillsdale and is buried in Hatch Burying Ground, Green River (Austerlitz). He died 15 April 1770 and his wife Isabel died 23 July 1767 in 43rd year. In the publication The Columbia published by Kinship, Volume 7, page 8: Guardianship Papers: 4 April 1860, George W. Hatch, 13 y on 6/18/1859; parents: Isaac, dec. and wife Minerva, Hillsdale, brother (of George): Thomas J. Hatch, Hillsdale. Guradian/bondsman: Allen Gildersleeve, Minerva Hatch, Hillsdale, George C. Murcer, Mary Rowe, Hillsdale. (This Isaac and Minerva are listed in the 1850 census Hillsdale: Isaac age 80, Minerva age 43, Thomas age 12, Ellen J. or I., age 7 and George age 3.) Issac Hatch is also mentioned in The Columbia, Volume 3, page 138, guardianship papers and Volume 4, page 124, guardianship papers. I do not have these volumes but you can get them at www.kinshipny.com There is an Elias on the 1767 Tax list for East Claverack which includes the town of Hillsdale. Hope this helps some. Susan

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HATCH Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1926.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the information....I did not realize the original had not been located. Karen in FL.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1926.1.2.1 Message Board Post: The transcription, dated 1958, says that the diary was in the possession of Mrs. Lou Spurrier but, as far as I know, recent researchers haven't been able to locate it.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: HATCH Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1926.1.2 Message Board Post: I believe the original copy of Elijah Hatch's diary is in the possession of Mrs. Lou Spurrier of Ashveille, North Carolina. She is the gg-grandaughter of Elijah Hatch. Karen in FL.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1926.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: No, it doesn't. I don't recall ever seeing the name Nymphas Hatch. He's not listed in the Mayflower book.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/1926.1.1.1 Message Board Post: By any chance does this journal mention a possible relative named Nymphas Hatch who resided in Egremont, MA. I know that Nymphas had a son William who was born in Hillsdale in 1818.

In addition to the Troy Irish Genealogy Society mailing list, this message is also being sent to the following genealogy mailing lists: MAILING LIST COVERS Rensselaer County List - Research in Rensselaer County. Albany County List - Research in Albany County. Schenectady County List - Research in Schenectady County. Saratoga County List - Research in Saratoga County. Genealogy NYS List - Research in New York State. NY-Hudson River List - Research in counties bordering Hudson River; (Rockland, Orange, Ulster, Greene, Albany, Rensselaer, Columbia, Dutchess, Putnam Westchester) & Schenectady County. NY-RollCall List - Research on New York State kin. NY-Mohawk Valley List - Research in Mohawk Valley Region of NYS, covers Albany, Fulton, Herkimer, Madison, Montgomery, Oneida, Otsego, Schenectady & Schoharie Counties. NY-WarWashSar List - Research in Warren, Washington and Saratoga Counties. New York List - Research in New York State where County is unknown. Irish-NY-Troy List - Research of Irish Ancestry in City of Troy, Rensselaer County, New York. NY-Irish List - Research on Irish immigrants who landed, lived in or passed through New York State. NY-Southern List - Research in Southern counties of New York, covers Broome, Bronx, Columbia, Delaware, Dutchess, Greene, Kings, Nassau, New York, Orange, Queens, Putnam, Richmond, Rockland, Suffolk, Sullivan,Tioga, Ulster & Westchester Columbia County List - Research in Columbia County Ulster County List - Research in Ulster County Some of the local Troy area newspapers have just published an interesting and informative article from the Rensselaer County Clerk's Office about the new Marriage Index on the Troy Irish Genealogy website, http://www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ For those list members who have not seen the article, and for those who do not have access to local newspapers, a copy of the news item is shown below. Bill McGrath TIGS Project Coordinator Clifton Park, NY NEWS ITEM: RENSS. CO. CLERK PARTNERS WITH TROY IRISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY A partnership between Rensselaer County Clerk Frank J. Merola and members of the Troy Irish Genealogy Society (TIGS) has resulted in the automation of over 5,000 marriage records in Rensselaer County beginning in 1908. When complete, over 30,000 Rensselaer County marriages between 1908 and 1935 will be automated and available for searching through the Genealogy society's website. "I am very pleased to be involved in this partnership with a great organization that is willing to take the time and effort necessary to open our historical records through the use of the internet which will allow those interested to search these records from their home or office rather than in taking a trip into Troy to examine these books," Mr. Merola said, "I am very grateful to TIGS president Donna Vaughn, project coordinator Bill McGrath, webmaster/librarian Jeanne Keefe, and the rest of the members of the Troy Irish Genealogy Society who contributed the time and effort necessary to complete this large project. TIGS volunteers from around the US worked to convert the original marriage index records to digital files which made them accessible through the Internet." Anyone interested in viewing the first index of marriage records is encouraged to go to the Troy Irish Genealogy Society website at www.rootsweb.com/~nytigs/ and click on 'TIGS PROJECTS and then Rensselaer County Marriage Index, Vol. 1. These records cover the general area population and are not restricted to Irish surnames. The website also provides a printable form that can be used to request copies of the Affidavit for License to Marry, the Certificate and Record of Marriage and in the case of minors, the Certificate of Consent from the Rensselaer County Clerk's office. The Rensselaer County Clerk's office charges a $5.00 fee for retrieval services of these marriage records. The marriage forms provided by the County Clerk's Office, Mr. Merola stated, will be of great interest to family researchers. Some items of interest on the forms, Merola indicated, are the ages, addresses, occupations and place of birth of the bride and groom as well as the names and place of both of the parents. Mr. Merola anticipates a continuation of this project until the ten volume Marriage Index has been completed and foresees future collaboration with the Troy Irish Genealogy Society that will benefit Rensselaer County residents and historians alike. "Preservation of our records has always been a priority of mine because our heritage is irreplaceable. We have made tremendous progress in restoring County naturalization records and with the help of organizations such as the Irish Genealogy Society we will not only be able to preserve our records but develop a format where people can utilize modern methods to search their histories. I am thrilled to partner with this great organization and I am thrilled about the future of genealogy in Rensselaer County. END OF NEWS ITEM

Diane and David (Hi, Cuz!): If you find where those cemetery records are, would you please post that info to the list? I too have some problems I'd like to clear up - like where is one of my grandmother's daughters? I'd had a letter in 2000 from Shirley Mullins (can't find her letter right now, but I have my reply, and had entered notes into FTM. Shirley Mullins gave me Nellie's death date Nellie d. Oct 5, 1893 at 8 months, 13 days, Register #773. So she must have died in Philmont, then, and probably been buried there, though the family lived in NYC from 1887 until 1904. But Gram's parents and several siblings and aunts lived in and near Philmont. Thus I'm guessing that Nellie must have been buried in Mellenville Cemetery., though there may be no stone. The previous child, who died in 1892 was buried in Maple Grove Cemetery on Long Island (I also have his grave ticket) When I inquired of Maple Grove if Nellie was buried there, they wrote that they had no record for a Nellie Armstrong with that death date. Sigh. Cheers! Jean

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/VRB.2ACE/2510.2 Message Board Post: "Upstate NY in the 1760's" by Florence Christoph has all these surnames...Also says "Sharp" for Scherp.. Too many to list.only 1 Van Tuyle-John in West Manor Rensselaerswyck c1767.Scherp/[email protected]/[email protected] .Garret in Half Moon.Scherp in Kinderhook,East side East Manor Rensselaerswyck.......Dolores