HI Sue, thanks for the fast response. What are the vitals on those given names for Bertrand and Boyer? I show my Grandfather Alfred F. Bertrand had several brothers and sisters. And my GreatGrandfather Ovila Boyer had a Brother named Antoine. Where can I get those books your getting your info from? Churubusco is about 20miles east of Malone and several miles north of Ellenburg. I belong to the NNYACGS Genealogy Society. Thanks Again Sue John A. Boyer