In a message dated 3/21/00 9:42:50 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << Hello Linda, are your Butlers from New York? My family was from Brasher Falls, N.Y. Rosemary >> According to family tradition, my gg grandmother was a cousin of William Butler Hickock, whose mother was a Butler, part of the North Hero, Vermont clan. When I discovered that Lydia Butler Guynup's maiden name was Butler, the tradition moved a few steps closer to fact. Though there's a Butler in her birthplace, Beekmantown, in the 1830 census with a female in the household the right age to be Lydia, there are still some gaps. If you've looked at the Vermont Butlers--There were three Butlers who moved to North Hero just after the Revolution. Benjamin and James stayed there (their families are well-researched), but the third, David, moved across the lake. According to THE HISTORY OF THE BENJAMIN BUTLER FAMILY OF NORTHER HERO, VERMONT by Marvin B Butler, "David settled southwest or west of Plattsburg, N.Y., and we know but very little of im, only that he had quite a large family of boys, who probably drifted farther west." Brasher Falls looks farther west to me. Do you know when they arrived in the area and from whence they came? (A connection would make not only my day and month, but likely the year.) Linda Guynup Dewey San Francisco