David (b. 1844) no information on marriage........ David married Julia Brothers in Clinton County - I don't have the date handy right now - they had three children one of which was Oliver - Oliver married Jennie (Mary Jane) Lucia in Beekmantown - these are my grandparents. Karen Winkle -----Original Message----- From: Mary Atwood [mailto:atwood@garlic.com] Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2003 2:30 AM To: NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYCLINTO] More on Fournier, Gagne & Soucie > In conversations with other Gagne researchers, > it is believed that Esther and Marie Nellie Fournier were sisters. Hi Pat & other listers, I cannot say that I am any kind of an expert or have any resource materials in hand on the Fournier family. This is what I have found thru online resources on Esther Fournier's family. I have not found evidence of a Nellie or an "unknown" female child in her immediate family. Does not mean she does not exist. I do not remember if you had a birth date on Nellie. If Nellie married in 1860, the she was most likely born at least by 1840...in the list of children below you see there is enough time for her to squeeze in as a child of Pierre and second wife, making her a half-sister to Esther at best. Also, I do not know where all of these children were born. I understand that Pierre Hubert Fournier, IF he is indeed the one married to Julia Menard, was born in Alburg Vermont. On the proposed lineage he is shown as born in Canada. His birth could have been recorded by the traveling missionary in the home church in Canada, or as close as they were to the border they could have actually attended church in Canada. David born in 1844 is showing as baptism in Canada (as are all the children before him). I have not found the birth location of the children born after that. For a totally different reason I had already come up with the mid-1840s as the likely time that my Pierre's family moved to Clinton county. Based on the birth information on this family lineage it somewhat shows possibility of a matching timeline, which is one more reason to suspect this is indeed our line. Pierre Fournier married (1) Archange Levasseur-Carmel Children: Pierre Hubert (b 1825) *this is the one I am trying to connect to Julia Menard with proof!!!!! don't know marriage dates or anything else Jeremie Laurent b. 1829 married 1851 Rachel Lamoureux Esther (Ester) b. 1831 married? Joseph Gagne Children of Pierre Fournier and wife (2) Archange David Adeline (b. 1833) married Ludger Racette 1854 Francois (b. 1838) married Adeline Fontaine 1861 David (b. 1844) no information on marriage Julien married Mary T(h)aff before 1867 Louis m(1) Margaret Hopkins in 1866 m (2) Agnes Daoust in 1872 Henriette (b. 1853) married Etienne Belle in 1871 Joseph married Tharcille Tremblay in 1870 Please do not take my information as gospel. I am having some troubles accepting all the dates, etc. Right now this is the proposed lineage of my Pierre Fournier so I have it in a separate database and am trying very hard to get it connected without doing a lot of unnecessary data entry in the event they are not proven to be related. Thanks for your reply & response to my post. Progress is being made! Mary ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== NYCLINTO List Administrator: sandyclan@pacific.net.au

> David (b. 1844) no information on marriage........ > > David married Julia Brothers in Clinton County - I don't have the date handy > right now - they had three children one of which was Oliver - Oliver married > Jennie (Mary Jane) Lucia in Beekmantown - these are my grandparents. > > Karen Winkle Hi Karen, Long time no hear.....good to know you are on this mail list too. I am glad you wrote. I get so confused by this group. I am still trying to get proof of the connection of my Pierre/Julia couple to the other people. I am a little confused about your information that this David (b. 1844) is the one married to Julia Brothers. I could have my data base all messed up. I show the David married to Marie Emery first, and later Julia Brothers, as the son of Pierre Fournier (b.1823/25) and wife Julia Menard /Manor. That David was born in 1855. I show his siblings as Pierre(1848); William (1850)* my line; Esther (1853); Julie (1857); Emilie (1859); Henriette (1861); Cordelia (Catherine) (1863); Marie-Mathilda (1865); Adeline Addie (1868); Louis (1873-1873). The David Fournier born in 1844 I show as the son of Pierre (b.1802) Fournier and second wife Archange David. I do not have any marriage or offspring information on him. If this lineage is connected then David (1844) would be a half-brother to Pierre (1823/25). Thanks for helping me to clarify and verify this information. Mary