Looking for anything on any Soucie/Soucy/etc. families most likely in the Ellenburg area of Clinton County around 1880-82.? Family would have arrived sometime in the mid to late 1870's, so most likely wouldn't be on any of the 1870's census records? Thanks! JB

The only Soucie I have in my database was Sarah, parents unknown, although I haven't really gotten to the point of researching her yet. She was married to Pierre Gagne, about 1882, son of Jean Baptiste Guilliame Gagne and Marie Nellie Fournier. I'm not sure exactly where they lived, but it was in Clinton County. In Assumption of Mary Church records, she is listed as Dinase Sanssouci, and Pierre's last name is listed as Gagner, a common spelling for Gagne. I see only one child listed for this couple, Mary Julie Sara Gagner, born 11/25/85, baptized 12/14/85. Sponsors were J. B. Farand and Cecelia Durette. In the 1900 census, ED 48, page 30, there is a Peter Gonyea and wife Sara listed, Peter born in NY in 1862, age 37 and Sara born in Rhode Island, parents born in Canada. Children listed are Cora, born March 1883 in MA, Julia, born in NY, Nov, age 14 (no year listed), Peter, born 1888 in MA, Samuel, born Nov, 1889 in MA, William, born Sept 1893 in MA, Clarent, born 1895 in MA and Ernest, born July 1898 in MA. I think this is the same couple, because no other children are listed in the church records (born in MA?) and Julia is the only one born in NY. She is also the right age and born in the right month. A lot of the Gagne's moved to MA around that time. This probably doesn't help much, but it at least shows how Sara moved from RI, to MA, to NY and back to MA. Were you looking for anyone in particular? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <jbedard@bedardphoto.com> To: <NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 12:31 PM Subject: [NYCLINTO] Soucie/etc. > Looking for anything on any Soucie/Soucy/etc. families most likely > in the Ellenburg area of Clinton County around 1880-82.? Family > would have arrived sometime in the mid to late 1870's, so most > likely wouldn't be on any of the 1870's census records? > > Thanks! > > JB > > > > > > ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Clinton Co NYGenWeb pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyclinto/ >

Hi, I have just recently joined this list. A posting today caught my eye because this past weekend I was working on this exact family group, trying to connect them without doubt to my Fournier family. I need to go to the archives to see what has been posted already. Please forgive a little detail to establish what I am looking at. I know for a fact the William Fournier I am trying to connect with was in Fall River, Bristol county, MA from 1888. He was born in Clinton county in 1850, and to the best of my information was basically a resident there until moving to Fall River. We know that William Fournier's children also moved to Fall River, presumably at the same time. It also appears his brother Pierre & his wife Hermine also were there for the October 1888 wedding and stayed. I don't know of other family members who might have made a group relocation around the same time. Now for the details....I hope someone recognizes these people and can give me the definitive link. Joseph (1832) Gagne married Esther Fournier (1831). I believe Esther is the aunt to my William Fournier (sister to William's father Pierre). Joseph (1832) is a brother to J-B William (1835) Gagne who married Marie-Nellie Fournier on 22 April 1860 (Dannemora, Clinton county) Their son Pierre is the one married to Sarah Soucie shown in the post copied following my text. Can anyone document that Pierre Fournier married to Julia Menard/Manor is indeed the brother to Esther Fournier? Does anyone know of the relationship of this Marie-Nellie Fournier to any other Fournier family? I am also trying to document the marriages of William (1850) Fournier in Clinton county. Believe 1st was between 1870-1877 to F...Mignault or Bricault. Wife died in 1877. Perhaps there was at least one child born to this marriage (William 1876) 2nd marriage was to Mary Collins, between 1877-1880. The first child born of this union was 1880 (perhaps January). This wife died in January 1888. The two youngest children died in June 1888, and by October 2, 1888 William Fournier was married to Eulalie Dion in Fall River, MA. Thru the Dion family there are definite connections to Rhode Island too. Thanks for any help. Mary > The only Soucie I have in my database was Sarah, parents unknown, although I > haven't really gotten to the point of researching her yet. She was married > to Pierre Gagne, about 1882, son of Jean Baptiste Guilliame Gagne and Marie > Nellie Fournier. I'm not sure exactly where they lived, but it was in > Clinton County. In Assumption of Mary Church records, she is listed as > Dinase Sanssouci, and Pierre's last name is listed as Gagner, a common > spelling for Gagne. I see only one child listed for this couple, Mary Julie > Sara Gagner, born 11/25/85, baptized 12/14/85. Sponsors were J. B. Farand > and Cecelia Durette. In the 1900 census, ED 48, page 30, there is a Peter > Gonyea and wife Sara listed, Peter born in NY in 1862, age 37 and Sara born > in Rhode Island, parents born in Canada. Children listed are Cora, born > March 1883 in MA, Julia, born in NY, Nov, age 14 (no year listed), Peter, > born 1888 in MA, Samuel, born Nov, 1889 in MA, William, born Sept 1893 in > MA, Clarent, born 1895 in MA and Ernest, born July 1898 in MA. I think this > is the same couple, because no other children are listed in the church > records (born in MA?) and Julia is the only one born in NY. She is also the > right age and born in the right month. A lot of the Gagne's moved to MA > around that time. > This probably doesn't help much, but it at least shows how Sara moved from

I don't know how I missed that one. I mentioned Marie Nellie Fournier married to JB Gagne and forgot to mention that JB's brother Joseph was married to Esther Fournier. In conversations with other Gagne researchers, it is believed that Esther and Marie Nellie Fournier were sisters. I don't have that connection in my tree because I never found proof of that relationship. I have seen in Assumption of Mary that Esther and Marie were sponsors for each other's children, but I don't know if that is because they were related or that their husbands, Joseph and JB, were brothers. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Atwood" <atwood@garlic.com> To: <NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:07 PM Subject: [NYCLINTO] Fournier and Soucie link > Hi, I have just recently joined this list. A posting today caught my eye > because this past weekend I was working on this exact family group, trying > to connect them without doubt to my Fournier family. I need to go to the > archives to see what has been posted already. > > Please forgive a little detail to establish what I am looking at. I know > for a fact the William Fournier I am trying to connect with was in Fall > River, Bristol county, MA from 1888. He was born in Clinton county in 1850, > and to the best of my information was basically a resident there until > moving to Fall River. We know that William Fournier's children also moved > to Fall River, presumably at the same time. It also appears his brother > Pierre & his wife Hermine also were there for the October 1888 wedding and > stayed. I don't know of other family members who might have made a group > relocation around the same time. > > Now for the details....I hope someone recognizes these people and can give > me the definitive link. > > Joseph (1832) Gagne married Esther Fournier (1831). I believe Esther is the > aunt to my William Fournier (sister to William's father Pierre). > > Joseph (1832) is a brother to J-B William (1835) Gagne who married > Marie-Nellie Fournier on 22 April 1860 (Dannemora, Clinton county) > Their son Pierre is the one married to Sarah Soucie shown in the post copied > following my text. > > Can anyone document that Pierre Fournier married to Julia Menard/Manor is > indeed the brother to Esther Fournier? > Does anyone know of the relationship of this Marie-Nellie Fournier to any > other Fournier family? > > I am also trying to document the marriages of William (1850) Fournier in > Clinton county. Believe 1st was between 1870-1877 to F...Mignault or > Bricault. Wife died in 1877. Perhaps there was at least one child born to > this marriage (William 1876) 2nd marriage was to Mary Collins, between > 1877-1880. The first child born of this union was 1880 (perhaps January). > This wife died in January 1888. The two youngest children died in June > 1888, and by October 2, 1888 William Fournier was married to Eulalie Dion in > Fall River, MA. Thru the Dion family there are definite connections to > Rhode Island too. > > Thanks for any help. > Mary > > > > The only Soucie I have in my database was Sarah, parents unknown, although I > > haven't really gotten to the point of researching her yet. She was married > > to Pierre Gagne, about 1882, son of Jean Baptiste Guilliame Gagne and Marie > > Nellie Fournier. I'm not sure exactly where they lived, but it was in > > Clinton County. In Assumption of Mary Church records, she is listed as > > Dinase Sanssouci, and Pierre's last name is listed as Gagner, a common > > spelling for Gagne. I see only one child listed for this couple, Mary Julie > > Sara Gagner, born 11/25/85, baptized 12/14/85. Sponsors were J. B. Farand > > and Cecelia Durette. In the 1900 census, ED 48, page 30, there is a Peter > > Gonyea and wife Sara listed, Peter born in NY in 1862, age 37 and Sara born > > in Rhode Island, parents born in Canada. Children listed are Cora, born > > March 1883 in MA, Julia, born in NY, Nov, age 14 (no year listed), Peter, > > born 1888 in MA, Samuel, born Nov, 1889 in MA, William, born Sept 1893 in > > MA, Clarent, born 1895 in MA and Ernest, born July 1898 in MA. I think this > > is the same couple, because no other children are listed in the church > > records (born in MA?) and Julia is the only one born in NY. She is also the > > right age and born in the right month. A lot of the Gagne's moved to MA > > around that time. > > This probably doesn't help much, but it at least shows how Sara moved from > > > ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > NYCLINTO List Administrator: > sandyclan@pacific.net.au >