In a message dated 10/27/2002 8:42:42 PM Pacific Standard Time, unette@aol.com writes: << You may already know this, but the book "Recollections of Clinton County and the Battle of Plattsburgh 1800-1840" makes mentionn of all the name you listed in your post, including one 6 page recollection of Richard Parrot Mallory who mentions his grandmother marrying a Mr. Hare for her second husband. >> Am aware of the book, have the recollections of Richard Parrot Mallory. His comments solved one Hare mystery, but caused several others. The first Hare settler in Clinton County, David Hare, who had a large family, including at least seven sons and three daughters Everyone in the family named their children for their siblings, so there's not a wide range of names--just the same ones used over and over. In the middle of all these Davids, Sidneys, Benjamins, Daniels, and Josephs, one sticks out like the proverbial sore thumb. David, Jr. named a child Richard Mallory Hare. We could never figure out from whence that name had come. Mr. Mallory's article proved there was a Hare/Mallory connection--obviously a close one. Problem is, that we can't figure out who was the Hare who married Mrs. Mallory. I was not aware that a Guynup was mentioned--I know that Thomas Guynup (Guinup in the early accounts) was in the War of 1812--National Archives records show that he was in the MIller Regiment. There's also a document in the Surrogate's office appointing Thomas the executor of his brother John's estate. According to the document John was killed in the War of 1812, but in the 1850 census there's John Guinup living just up the road from Thomas--and he's just the right age to be Thomas' brother. Very strange. The Sutro Library (State of California's Genealogical Library) owns the book, but it can't be found. If someone owns a copy, I'd love to know what it says about Guynup/Guinups. I believe Borchard Guinup was also in the War, though he's not listed as a member of the Miller Regiment. Linda