Hello Bob, I am working on a Desso/Dussault line that are in Champlain, Clinton, New York and the father was also in Burlington, Chittenden,Vermont. Perhaps we should compare information? I have these names Louis, John Baptiste and even a Julia St. Dennis, but the dates are not the same as yours below? They are likely relatives though? Thanks, Shanna Jones shannajones@charter.net -----Original Message----- From: Bob Foran [mailto:cordy11@comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2004 4:26 PM To: NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYCLINTO] Desso/Dussault of Chittenden VT or Plattsburgh NY Hi, Would be grateful to know if you have any genealogical information on the following Desso/Dessault family of Essex, Chittenden Co, VT. Thanks. Bob Foran - CT Louis Desso b 31 Dec 1879 NY (Plattsburgh?); d Mar 1967 & Ida Mae Devino Perhaps related to John Baptiste Desso & Lucy LaRose or David Dussault & Mary St. Dennis of Plattsburgh.

Hi, Would be grateful to know if you have any genealogical information on the following Desso/Dessault family of Essex, Chittenden Co, VT. Thanks. Bob Foran - CT Louis Desso b 31 Dec 1879 NY (Plattsburgh?); d Mar 1967 & Ida Mae Devino Perhaps related to John Baptiste Desso & Lucy LaRose or David Dussault & Mary St. Dennis of Plattsburgh.

Hello Bev, Thanks for this information. Nicholas in jail in 1850 and Nicholas in the poorhouse in 1860, for some reason, both sound possible. It would be interesting to find out what NCOD refers to as a place of birth. My father died at age 69. I seem to remember a long time ago him telling me that he would probably die at age 69 because his father and grandfather both died at age 69. Is there any kind of death index for the area? My grandfather was born about 1859 and the 1880 census shows his mother as a widow. Therefore Nicholas O' Brien must have died between 1859 and 1880. Bob Brien brien.familytree@verizon.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "QUEMENEUR" <quemeneur@bellsouth.net> To: <NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 9:55 AM Subject: RE: [NYCLINTO] O'BRIEN family of Chazy > Hello Bob, > > I checked all of my Clinton County references, primarily Catholic Church > registers, and could not find any sign of Nicholas O'Brien as the father of > any children. > > Next, I checked the 1850 census and found two, both listed as Nicholas > O'Brien, born Ireland, and found at Plattsburgh. The first was age 40, > occupation was tailor, and current residence was at the jail for > drunkenness. > > The other Nicholas was age 52, had a wife Almira, age 31, born VT, and one > daughter Mary J., age 1, born VT. > > I found one Nicholas O'Brien in the 1860 at Beekmantown. He was age 68 and > residing in the Poorhouse. His birth place is listed as NCOD, but I have no > clue what that refers to. > > I've had no success with the 1870 trying any number of searches. When my > eyes stop crossing on me, I'll look further. {G} > > Bev > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brien.familytree [mailto:brien.familytree@verizon.net] > Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 2:56 PM > To: NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [NYCLINTO] O'BRIEN family of Chazy > > > My grandfather, George Edward O'Brien, was born in Chazy NY about 1859-1864. > He was the son of Nicholas O'Brien and Sarah Perkins. > > The 1880 U. S. Census shows Sarah O'Brien age 57 a widow and her son George > O'Brien age 21 living in Chazy NY. According to the census they were both > born in Vermont. I found a marriage for Nicholas O'Brien and Elizabeth > Perkins on 14 Oct 1847 in Panton VT. I don't know for sure if this is my > great-grandparents. > > George came to Lowell MA in the early 1880's and started his family in 1883. > I have plenty of information after 1883 but next to nothing before 1883. > > Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated. > > Bob Brien > > Fitchburg MA > > brien.familytree@verizon.net > > > ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Clinton Co NYGenWeb pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyclinto/ > > > > > ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Clinton Co NYGenWeb pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyclinto/ > >

Hello Bob, I checked all of my Clinton County references, primarily Catholic Church registers, and could not find any sign of Nicholas O'Brien as the father of any children. Next, I checked the 1850 census and found two, both listed as Nicholas O'Brien, born Ireland, and found at Plattsburgh. The first was age 40, occupation was tailor, and current residence was at the jail for drunkenness. The other Nicholas was age 52, had a wife Almira, age 31, born VT, and one daughter Mary J., age 1, born VT. I found one Nicholas O'Brien in the 1860 at Beekmantown. He was age 68 and residing in the Poorhouse. His birth place is listed as NCOD, but I have no clue what that refers to. I've had no success with the 1870 trying any number of searches. When my eyes stop crossing on me, I'll look further. {G} Bev -----Original Message----- From: brien.familytree [mailto:brien.familytree@verizon.net] Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 2:56 PM To: NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYCLINTO] O'BRIEN family of Chazy My grandfather, George Edward O'Brien, was born in Chazy NY about 1859-1864. He was the son of Nicholas O'Brien and Sarah Perkins. The 1880 U. S. Census shows Sarah O'Brien age 57 a widow and her son George O'Brien age 21 living in Chazy NY. According to the census they were both born in Vermont. I found a marriage for Nicholas O'Brien and Elizabeth Perkins on 14 Oct 1847 in Panton VT. I don't know for sure if this is my great-grandparents. George came to Lowell MA in the early 1880's and started his family in 1883. I have plenty of information after 1883 but next to nothing before 1883. Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated. Bob Brien Fitchburg MA brien.familytree@verizon.net ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== Visit the Clinton Co NYGenWeb pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyclinto/

My grandfather, George Edward O'Brien, was born in Chazy NY about 1859-1864. He was the son of Nicholas O'Brien and Sarah Perkins. The 1880 U. S. Census shows Sarah O'Brien age 57 a widow and her son George O'Brien age 21 living in Chazy NY. According to the census they were both born in Vermont. I found a marriage for Nicholas O'Brien and Elizabeth Perkins on 14 Oct 1847 in Panton VT. I don't know for sure if this is my great-grandparents. George came to Lowell MA in the early 1880's and started his family in 1883. I have plenty of information after 1883 but next to nothing before 1883. Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated. Bob Brien Fitchburg MA brien.familytree@verizon.net

Looking for possible marriage record for Nathaniel Hayes and Betsey Fuller in the Saranac area cir; 1855. All help greatly appreciated.

Searching for info on family of Thomas McAlona in Chazy Ny in 1840 census. Have no other information on this family. Cant find them in previous or next census in Chazy or elsewhere. Looked through a history of Chazy in NYS library in Albany and saw a Thomas McAnana listed in index as one of a group of individuals in Chazy to apply for a license to open a tavern in 1847. With messy cursive this could be close. That's all I could find. Most interested in any advice on how to continue looking for information about this family in Chazy area. Church records, land records, etc. My McAlona ancestors were Protestant and came from Belfast area through Quebec and then Champlain NY to Washington Co in 1825-26. I don't believe this to be the same name as McAloon which I have seen in the area. Thanks, Mike

Hi - I am looking for the Philip Roberts family of Champlain. I have been able to find him in the 1880 census with his wife Susan. I was wondering if there is anyone who might be also researching this family and would they know if Philip is still living in Clinton Co in 1860 ??? or 1865 ?? Philip is Canadian and so is his wife - he was b. 1817 his wife b. 1820 - the children still present in 1880 are all born NY. I was hoping to find children Frank and Gertrude earlier in this household. Appreciative of any assistance. Jack Scott Hanover,Pa.

Hi Linda, I will dig out the divorce decree for Robert Carroll and Lillian Duley. But his date of birth is Apr 25, 1918. Is this your line? Sande Marriage 1 Robert CARROLL b: 25 Apr 1918 in Elmira, Chemung, New York Change Date: 13 Sep 2003 Children Nancy Ann CARROLL b: 22 Sep 1939 in Dannemora, Clinton, New York

Hi Sande, Sorry, I can't help you with your marriage question regarding Charles ROBERTS and Lillian DULEY. But what caught my eye was your mention of Lillian being married to Robert CARROLL first. Do you have any more details about that marriage - or of Robert Carroll? Thanks, Linda Carroll Bifulco lbifulco@comcast.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sande & Mike" <sanmike@tds.net> To: <NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 10:53 PM Subject: [NYCLINTO] ROBERTS/DULEY MARRIAGE 1942 > Hi list, > > Trying to locate the marriage of CHARLES FREDERICK ROBERTS, b 1912 and LILLIAN EVA DULEY, b 1918. They were married 08/30/1942. Not exactly sure of the town but as Lillian was from Dannemora, NY. Thought this was a good bet. This is a second marriage for Lillian, she was married previously to Robert Carroll. > > Thank you, > Sande in Georgia > sanmike@tds.net > > > ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > NYCLINTO List Administrator: > sandyclan@pacific.net.au > >

Hi list, Trying to locate the marriage of CHARLES FREDERICK ROBERTS, b 1912 and LILLIAN EVA DULEY, b 1918. They were married 08/30/1942. Not exactly sure of the town but as Lillian was from Dannemora, NY. Thought this was a good bet. This is a second marriage for Lillian, she was married previously to Robert Carroll. Thank you, Sande in Georgia sanmike@tds.net

Sande, Albany can be slow in their response simply due to the sheer volume of requests and the limited staff. New York began keeping vital statistics in 1880 and the early records are not complete. Not all events were forwarded to Albany. Your best bet would be to contact the Town in which the event occurred. Please see the Clinton County website for the address: http://www.co.clinton.ny.us/Departments/CC/CCCertificates.htm For an obituary I would recommend using interlibrary loan to get a microfilm of the newspaper that you need. The NY State Library has a listing of newspapers that are available around the state. Your local library would know what they can get from where. The Champlain Counselor as well as several others are available for 1900. Check http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/nysnp/210.htm for the Clinton County holdings at various libraries. You could also try the churches in the area where the funeral would have been held. Church records are available through the Latter-day Saints at their Family History Centers. Check http://www.familysearch.org to find one near you. Good luck. Debbie -- "Sharmac Villa" <moonandsixpence@verizon.net> wrote: Sandy, I think that after 1900, all records were forwarded and kept in Albany. If that's the case, you can expect to wait quite a while before you get a response, as New York State is notoriously slow in their replies. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: Sande & Mike To: NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [NYCLINTO] Death certificate/Obituary Where would I write or call to get a death certificate for Antoine C. Roberts, August 14, 1900 in Champlain? He was buried in Hemmingford, Canada. Is it possible to get a copy of the obituary if one was printed in the newspaper? Looking for his parents and his place of birth. Thank you, Sande ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== Visit the Clinton Co NYGenWeb pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyclinto/ ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== NYCLINTO List Administrator: sandyclan@pacific.net.au ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Where would I write or call to get a death certificate for Antoine C. Roberts, August 14, 1900 in Champlain? He was buried in Hemmingford, Canada. Is it possible to get a copy of the obituary if one was printed in the newspaper? Looking for his parents and his place of birth. Thank you, Sande

Sandy, I think that after 1900, all records were forwarded and kept in Albany. If that's the case, you can expect to wait quite a while before you get a response, as New York State is notoriously slow in their replies. Mac ----- Original Message ----- From: Sande & Mike To: NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 3:48 PM Subject: [NYCLINTO] Death certificate/Obituary Where would I write or call to get a death certificate for Antoine C. Roberts, August 14, 1900 in Champlain? He was buried in Hemmingford, Canada. Is it possible to get a copy of the obituary if one was printed in the newspaper? Looking for his parents and his place of birth. Thank you, Sande ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== Visit the Clinton Co NYGenWeb pages http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyclinto/

Mary- Thank you for your reply. Sorry, no James JOHNSON. My JOHNSON is Jeremiah b. 1791 CT, married Harriet BRIDGES abt 1830, 6 children: William, Lysander, Sherman, Hulda, Ellen, and Elizabeth. I have an Ada JOHNSON, married to Thomas HINDS b. 1870 in Peru, NY. One son: Howard b. in VT. I have an Isaac JOHNSON m. to Betsey Weatherwax who died before 1830 possibly in Peru, NY. I have Richard JOHNSON m. to Hilda PRATT b. 1926 in Mount Holly, VT. I have other JOHNSONs in various parts of the country. Judy

Judy, My g.g.grandfather was James JOHNSTON, but the 't' was often dropped in census records and other records...becoming JOHNSON. He and his wife, Elizabeth (surname unknown) lived in Mooers and Champlain from at least 1844 until he moved to MN in 1871 or so. Elizabeth died in Mooers in 1859. James Johnston / Johnson was born in Ireland. I know nothing of his family other than that fact. Any connection to the JOHNSON family you're researching? Happy holidays. Mary At 06:37 PM 12/23/03, you wrote: >Looking for information on BRIDGES, PIERCE, WILCOTT, WILSON, BURROW, Johnson, >and Lyon, in Peru, Keeseville, Plattsburgh, Beekmantown, Clinton co., and >Chesterfield, Essex co., NY. Am willing to swap. Merry Christmas! Judy

Looking for information on BRIDGES, PIERCE, WILCOTT, WILSON, BURROW, Johnson, and Lyon, in Peru, Keeseville, Plattsburgh, Beekmantown, Clinton co., and Chesterfield, Essex co., NY. Am willing to swap. Merry Christmas! Judy

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_Part_410e7ef7$69ef$45eb$8a6a$b00468102039 Content-Type: text/plain Mac, I will, thank you. Doug ----- Original Message ----- This message has been scanned for viruses by the VEI Internet Automatic Email Spam and Virus Scanner, and is believed to be free of spam or viruses. Please report spam to spamtrap@vei.net. If you would like 98.9 % spam blocked from your E-mail then go to VEI Internet for details. Anti-spam/Anti-virus is FREE with every account. http://www.vei.net/ mailtospamtrap@vei.net --=_Part_410e7ef7$69ef$45eb$8a6a$b00468102039 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Sharmac Villa" <moonandsixpence@verizon.net> To: <NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [NYCLINTO] Thomas Whiteside Moore b 1827 in Champlain, Clinton > Doug, > > When I said, "Do you think he's the namesake?", that's what I had in mind. When you have a problem with finding an ancestor and you have a middle name, like the one you have given, it's the alternative route to take in finding the history of that person. You are overlooking data that you should be tracing. The year given is 1850 or so and you are looking for 1827 - work back from there! > > Mac > > Mac, > I don't think so because of age but he may be related as the middle name > (Whiteside) may have come from the Whiteside family. Thanks for your help. > Doug G > ----- Original Message ----- > > > ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > Visit the Clinton Co NYGenWeb pages > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyclinto/ > > --=_Part_410e7ef7$69ef$45eb$8a6a$b00468102039--

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_Part_f02b6b06$978e$445f$a180$b413856d56c6 Content-Type: text/plain Mac, I don't think so because of age but he may be related as the middle name (Whiteside) may have come from the Whiteside family. Thanks for your help. Doug G ----- Original Message ----- This message has been scanned for viruses by the VEI Internet Automatic Email Spam and Virus Scanner, and is believed to be free of spam or viruses. Please report spam to spamtrap@vei.net. If you would like 98.9 % spam blocked from your E-mail then go to VEI Internet for details. Anti-spam/Anti-virus is FREE with every account. http://www.vei.net/ mailtospamtrap@vei.net --=_Part_f02b6b06$978e$445f$a180$b413856d56c6 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Sharmac Villa" <moonandsixpence@verizon.net> To: <NYCLINTO-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2003 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [NYCLINTO] Thomas Whiteside Moore b 1827 in Champlain, Clinton > Doug, > > I didn't find a person named Thomas Whiteside Moore listed, but I did find Thomas Whiteside, residing in Champlain in June 1850. He is listed as 65, born in New York State, a merchant, with property valued at $19,000. Could this be the namesake? > > Mac > > > ==== NYCLINTO Mailing List ==== > NYCLINTO List Administrator: > sandyclan@pacific.net.au > > --=_Part_f02b6b06$978e$445f$a180$b413856d56c6--

Doug, When I said, "Do you think he's the namesake?", that's what I had in mind. When you have a problem with finding an ancestor and you have a middle name, like the one you have given, it's the alternative route to take in finding the history of that person. You are overlooking data that you should be tracing. The year given is 1850 or so and you are looking for 1827 - work back from there! Mac Mac, I don't think so because of age but he may be related as the middle name (Whiteside) may have come from the Whiteside family. Thanks for your help. Doug G ----- Original Message -----