Good morning! I am new to this list and was hoping I could take advantage of all the knowledge about Clinton County that must abound here. I am looking for my proverbial needle in a haystack. This is my brickwall: My great grandfather's (Felix STEBBINS) death certifcate listed his parents as Joseph STEBBINS and Marie LAVALLE both born in Champlain. My grandfather's date of birth is 1879 in Chicopee, MA. That would make his parents born in the late 1850s to mid 1860s (my assumption). I called the Champlain town clerk and was informed that NY state did not mandate recording of births till 1881. He did look through the parish records he had, but no STEBBINS. I also do not know if these people married in NY or not. Ok list, any ideas on how I would proceed? This is my first search attempt in New York. Do these names appear in anybody else's research? I contacted the Stebbins Ancestral Society and of the 60,000 names they have, none fit the name and time frame I need. HELP! Regards, Cheryl

Did you check IGI? There is a Joseph Stebbins in 1840 in Chicopee; his father is Seth Stebbins. The mother's name might be Chopin or Chapin. Jean

Hi Cheryl, Here is what I have in my Gedcom - I tie in at number 11 under Sanscartier which is really Lague dit Sanscartier which became Lahue in NY, go figure. NOTE the marriages to Legrain dit Lavallee in the data below. Had a quick look at the LDS site and they have lots of data on Stebenne and Lavallee but not the two together but worth trying a search there http://32.96.111.13/default.asp Once you have reviewed the info below, let me know how you think it might tie in. Regards, Andree Descendants of John Stebbins Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 STEBBINS was born 1625 in Bocking, Essex, England, and died March 07, 1677/78 in Northampton, MA. He married MARY ANNE MUNSON. Child of JOHN STEBBINS and MARY MUNSON is: 2. i. JOHN2 STEBBENS, b. January 28, 1646/47, Springfield, Massachusetts; d. December 19, 1724, Deerfield, Massachusetts. Generation No. 2 2. JOHN2 STEBBENS (JOHN1 STEBBINS) was born January 28, 1646/47 in Springfield, Massachusetts, and died December 19, 1724 in Deerfield, Massachusetts. He married DOROTHY ALEXANDER January 04, 1679/80 in Deerfield, Massachusetts. Notes for JOHN STEBBENS: In 1723 John Stebbins died. In his will he wrote: "And as to my children in canada, to wit Samuel, Ebenezer, Joseph, Abigail and Thankful my will is...That each of them have an eighth part of my lands provided they come and live in New England." Sore at their continued absence he said: "Those that will not live in New England shall have five shillings apiece and no more...Yet be it forever understood that if my daughter Abigail come not and tarry as above said, then Aaron Denieur, her son shall be my heir in her room and stead, provided said Aaron continue in the country. After my decease and my wife's decease, said Aaron shall enter upon that which should have been his mother's part, and possess it until his mother comes, but if she come not and fulfill the above said conditions, and Aaron stays in New England and doth fulfill them, then the said eighth part of my lands to descend to said Aaron's heirs forever." Aaron received the lands, but Abigail came and tarried awhile; long enough to give birth to her thirteenth child and doubtless to receive her five shillings. More About JOHN STEBBENS: Occupation: carpenter and soldier Children of JOHN STEBBENS and DOROTHY ALEXANDER are: i. JOHN3 STEBENNE. 3. ii. ABIGAIL STEBENNE, b. January 04, 1683/84, Deerfield, Massachusetts; d. November 15, 1740, Boucherville. iii. SAMUEL STEBENNE, b. 1688. 4. iv. LOUISE-THERESE STEBBINS, b. 1690, Deerfield, New England; d. July 11, 1729, Chambly. v. EBENEZER STEBENNE, b. 1699, Deerfield, New England. Notes for EBENEZER STEBENNE: Ebenezer, or Jacques-Charles as he was known in Quebec, was captured on February 11, 1704 and brought to Canada. In 1708 he was living with his sister Marguerite Stebbens. More About EBENEZER STEBENNE: AKA (Facts Page): Jacques-Charles 5. vi. JOSEPH STEBENNE, b. 1701, Deerfield, Massachusetts; d. April 23, 1753, Chambly. Generation No. 3 3. ABIGAIL3 STEBENNE (JOHN2 STEBBENS, JOHN1 STEBBINS) was born January 04, 1683/84 in Deerfield, Massachusetts, and died November 15, 1740 in Boucherville. She married JACQUES DENOYON February 14, 1703/04 in Deerfield, Massachusetts, son of JEAN DENOYON and MARIE CHAUVIN. Notes for ABIGAIL STEBENNE: Abigail was baptized as a catholic in 1708 and took on the name of Marguerite. She had arrived in Boucherville with her husband in March of 1704 shortly before the massacre occured in her home town of Deerfield, Massachusetts. Some of her family members were taken captive and brought to Quebec as a result of that skirmish. As Abigail was married to a french-canadian and resided there her family received preferential treatment and they were released and went to live with Abigail. They also integrated into the french canadian society and forged a life in Quebec. In July of 1708 Marguerite was granted 75 "arpents" on "la cote" St-Joseph in Boucherville. More About ABIGAIL STEBENNE: AKA (Facts Page): Marguerite and Gabrielle - Stebbens Notes for JACQUES DENOYON: It is thought that this Jacques de Noyon was a "coureur de bois" who came to Deerfiled, New England to exchange goods and brandy for furs with the English. He was french canadian, born in Trois Rivieres son of Jean De Noyon and Marie Chauvin Langlois. Jean De Noyon was born on 8-30-1635 in St-Pierre Chastel, Rouen, France and died in Boucherville, Quebec on 3-10-1692. Marie Chauvin Langlois was born on 9-8-1650 in Trois Rivieres, Quebec and died on 3-3-1-1723 in Boucherville. James and Abigail were married in Deerfield shortly before the massacre of the French and Indian War; in 1704 they went to live in Boucherville, Quebec. More About JACQUES DENOYON: AKA (Facts Page): James Denyo Occupation: Sargeant in Monsieur de Tonty's company Children of ABIGAIL STEBENNE and JACQUES DENOYON are: 6. i. RENE4 DENOYON, b. December 26, 1704, Boucherville; d. April 29, 1780, Deerfield, Massachusetts. ii. GABRIELLE DENOYON, b. 1705, Boucherville; m. NICOLAS BLIN/BINET. iii. JEAN-BAPTISTE DENOYON, b. 1707, Boucherville; d. 1708, Boucherville. iv. JEAN-BAPTISTE DENOYON, b. 1708, Boucherville; m. LOUISE BLAIN, April 03, 1731, Boucherville, Quebec. v. FRANCOIS DENOYON, b. 1710, Boucherville. vi. DOROTHEE DENOYON, b. October 02, 1711, Boucherville. vii. MARIE-JOSEPHTE DENOYON, b. 1713, Boucherville; d. 1714, Boucherville. viii. JACQUES-RENE DENOYON, b. 1715, Boucherville; m. GENEVIEVE LEROUX, April 14, 1736, Boucherville, Quebec. ix. MARIE-CHARLOTTE DENOYON, b. 1716, Boucherville. x. MARIE-JOSEPH DENOYON, b. 1718, Boucherville. xi. MARIE-MADELEINE DENOYON, b. 1720, Boucherville. xii. JOSEPH DENOYON, b. 1724, Boucherville. xiii. MARIE-ANNE DENOYON, b. February 27, 1725/26, Guerfil, New England. Notes for MARIE-ANNE DENOYON: In July of 1725 Marguerite Steben received permission from the Governor to go to Orange to seek her son Rene and see her mother accompanied by Adrien Grain (also called Charles), Nicolas Binet and Rene Lebeaux. While there she gave birth to Marie-Anne. The purpose of her trip was probably to find her son and bring him back to Canada as well as collect her part of the inheritence left by her father. She returned home to Quebec with her new infant but not her son. 4. LOUISE-THERESE3 STEBBINS (JOHN2 STEBBENS, JOHN1 STEBBINS) was born 1690 in Deerfield, New England, and died July 11, 1729 in Chambly. She married ADRIEN-CHARLES LEGRAIN, DIT LAVALLE February 04, 1710/11 in Ste-Famille, Boucherville. Notes for LOUISE-THERESE STEBBINS: She was twelve years old when captured. The Hertel family bought her from her Indian master. She was baptised in the catholic faith in 1707 in Chambly. More About LOUISE-THERESE STEBBINS: AKA (Facts Page): Thankful Stebens More About ADRIEN-CHARLES LEGRAIN, DIT LAVALLE: Occupation: 1752, Militia Captain Children of LOUISE-THERESE STEBBINS and ADRIEN-CHARLES LEGRAIN are: i. FRANCOISE-THERESE4 LAVALLE, b. 1713. ii. GUILLAUME LAVALLE, b. 1714. iii. MARIE-JEANNE LAVALLE, b. 1716. 7. iv. MARGUERITE LEGRAIN, DIT LAVALLEE, b. February 05, 1717/18, Chambly; d. November 08, 1746, Pointe Olivier. v. CHARLOTTE LAVALLE, b. 1720. vi. ISABELLE LAVALLE, b. January 02, 1721/22. vii. CHARLES-ANTOINE LEGRAIN, DIT LAVALLE, b. 1723; m. MARIE-SUZANNE VALLIERE, November 03, 1756, Pointe Olivier, St-Mathias. viii. MARIE-THERESE LAVALLE, b. February 01, 1724/25. ix. VERONIQUE LAVALLE, b. July 03, 1729. 5. JOSEPH3 STEBENNE (JOHN2 STEBBENS, JOHN1 STEBBINS) was born 1701 in Deerfield, Massachusetts, and died April 23, 1753 in Chambly. He married MARGUERITE SANSOUCI November 07, 1734 in Fort Chambly. More About MARGUERITE SANSOUCI: AKA (Facts Page): Marie Marguerite Jacques Langois in PRDH Children of JOSEPH STEBENNE and MARGUERITE SANSOUCI are: 8. i. JOSEPH4 STEBENNE, b. November 20, 1735, Chambly; d. Chambly. ii. MARGUERITE STEBENNE, b. September 20, 1737, Chambly; d. 1756, Chambly. iii. JEAN-BAPTISTE STEBENNE, b. March 22, 1737/38, Chambly; m. MARIE-JOSEPH MACE, 1762, Chambly. iv. FRANCOIS STEBENNE, b. March 15, 1739/40, Chambly; d. July 1741, Chambly. v. LOUIS STEBENNE, b. 1742, Chambly; d. October 19, 1809. vi. MARIE-SUZANNE STEBENNE, b. May 31, 1744, Chambly; d. 1776, Chambly; m. CLAUDE BENOIT, 1761, Chambly. vii. FRANCOIS STEBENNE, b. July 11, 1751, Chambly. viii. MARIE-ANNE STEBENNE, b. May 25, 1753, Chambly; d. June 15, 1753, Chambly. 9. ix. PIERRE STEBENNE, b. July 26, 1746, Pointe Olivier; d. June 10, 1816. Generation No. 4 6. RENE4 DENOYON (ABIGAIL3 STEBENNE, JOHN2 STEBBENS, JOHN1 STEBBINS) was born December 26, 1704 in Boucherville, and died April 29, 1780 in Deerfield, Massachusetts. He married ANNA COMBS July 08, 1730 in Greenfield, Franklin, Massachusetts. Notes for RENE DENOYON: When Rene, the eldest child, was about ten years old he was sent with some Frenchmen and Indians to visit his grandparents in Deerfield, and when the Canadians were ready to go back the child could not be found. Perhaps grandfather Stebbins induced him to stay, but stay he did and in New England he founded not only a family but a name, for his name changed from Rene de Noyon to Aaron Denio. He was a soldier in the Three Year's War. In 1730 the General Court granted him two hundred acres "in consideration of his losses and sufferings in the War with the Indians and French and in his captivity among them." He, a child born in his father's own land could hardly be called a captive! He and his father may have fought as enemies in this war for Samuel Dickinson, a Northfield captive, returning in 1724 by way of Albany said that "Denion", a French man (well known in New England) was in the army at Northfield last fall." Child of RENE DENOYON and ANNA COMBS is: 10. i. AARON5 DENIO, b. March 24, 1730/31, Greenfield, Massachusetts. 7. MARGUERITE4 LEGRAIN, DIT LAVALLEE (LOUISE-THERESE3 STEBBINS, JOHN2 STEBBENS, JOHN1 STEBBINS) was born February 05, 1717/18 in Chambly, and died November 08, 1746 in Pointe Olivier. She married MICHEL-GUILLAUME LAGUE DIT SANSCARTIER1 October 28, 1742 in St-Joseph de Chambly2, son of MICHEL-GUILLAUME SANSCARTIER and CATHERINE LECLERC. Notes for MICHEL-GUILLAUME LAGUE DIT SANSCARTIER: On 12-26-1741 Michel and brother Nicolas signed a contract to build a barn and a house for Clement de Sabrevois de Bleury in St-Joseph parish of Chambly. Seems they were carpenters/contractors. Children of MARGUERITE LEGRAIN and MICHEL-GUILLAUME SANSCARTIER are: i. MICHEL5 SANSCARTIER, b. July 09, 1743, Chambly3. ii. LOUIS-CHARLES SANSCARTIER, b. June 01, 1744, Chambly3. iii. MARGUERITE SANSCARTIER, b. September 20, 1745, St-Mathias de Rouville. 8. JOSEPH4 STEBENNE (JOSEPH3, JOHN2 STEBBENS, JOHN1 STEBBINS) was born November 20, 1735 in Chambly, and died in Chambly. He married (1) MARIE-BARBE VALLIERE November 17, 1760 in Pointe Olivier, St-Mathias, daughter of ANTOINE VALLIERE and MARIE-SUZANNE BOULRISSE. He married (2) MARIE-AMABLE BOMBARDIER January 07, 1767 in Chambly. Marriage Notes for JOSEPH STEBENNE and MARIE-BARBE VALLIERE: Both sets of parents were present at the wedding. The PRDH states Charles Legrain was her deceased husband.Both sets of parents were present at the wedding. The PRDH names Andre Davignon Beauregard as her first husband. Also present at the wedding (PRDH) were Francois Davignon, her previous father-in-law, along with Baptiste Davignon, Alexis Davignon, Amable Davignon, Brigitte Davignon, and Marie-Anne Davignon. Children of JOSEPH STEBENNE and MARIE-BARBE VALLIERE are: 11. i. MARIE-LOUISE5 STEBENNE, b. Chambly; Stepchild. ii. MARIE-AMABLE STEBENNE, b. September 20, 1761, Pointe Olivier; d. December 21, 1761, Pointe Olivier. iii. MARIE-BARBE STEBENNE, b. November 11, 1762. iv. MARIE-VERONIQUE STEBENNE, b. September 14, 1764, Pointe Olivier; d. April 27, 1765, Pointe Olivier. Children of JOSEPH STEBENNE and MARIE-AMABLE BOMBARDIER are: v. MARIE-ANNE5 STEBENNE, b. January 14, 1768. vi. CATHERINE STEBENNE, b. 1770. vii. JEAN-BAPTISTE STEBENNE, b. 1773. viii. MARIE-SUZANNE STEBENNE, b. 1775. ix. ANGELIQUE STEBENNE, b. 1777. x. MICHEL STEBENNE, b. September 16, 1779. xi. CHARLES STEBENNE, b. May 01, 1781, St-Mathias de Rouville; d. 1834, Troy, NY. More About CHARLES STEBENNE: Cause of death (Facts Page): 1834, Cholera xii. JOSEPH STEBENNE, b. 1783. xiii. MARIE-DESANGES STEBENNE, b. May 02, 1785. xiv. NOEL STEBENNE, b. December 23, 1787. xv. MARIE-MARGUERITE STEBENNE, b. May 10, 1790. 9. PIERRE4 STEBENNE (JOSEPH3, JOHN2 STEBBENS, JOHN1 STEBBINS) was born July 26, 1746 in Pointe Olivier, and died June 10, 1816. He married MARIE-SUZANNE DAVIGNON3 October 26, 1772, daughter of ANDRE DAVIGNON and MARIE-SUZANNE VALLIERE. Children of PIERRE STEBENNE and MARIE-SUZANNE DAVIGNON are: i. MARIE-SUZANNE5 STEBENNE, b. September 11, 1773. ii. PIERRE STEBENNE, b. September 22, 1774. iii. MARIE-JOSEPH STEBENNE, b. December 08, 1775. iv. MARIE-DESANGES STEBENNE, b. July 17, 1777; d. December 13, 1782. Generation No. 5 10. AARON5 DENIO (RENE4 DENOYON, ABIGAIL3 STEBENNE, JOHN2 STEBBENS, JOHN1 STEBBINS) was born March 24, 1730/31 in Greenfield, Massachusetts. He married REBECCA BARNARD January 15, 1749/50 in Greenfield, Franklin, Massachusetts. Child of AARON DENIO and REBECCA BARNARD is: i. AARON6 DENIO, b. December 11, 1755, Greenfield, Massachusetts; m. DEBORAH WOOD, July 05, 1785, Greenfield, Franklin, Massachusetts. 11. MARIE-LOUISE5 STEBENNE (JOSEPH4, JOSEPH3, JOHN2 STEBBENS, JOHN1 STEBBINS)4 was born in Chambly. She married CHARLES SANSCARTIER January 26, 1784 in St-Mathias de Rouville4, son of CHARLES SANSCARTIER and MARIE-FRANCOISE LITTLEFIELD. More About CHARLES SANSCARTIER: Occupation: Farmer Marriage Notes for MARIE-LOUISE STEBENNE and CHARLES SANSCARTIER: Present at the marriage: Charles Lague & Francoise Littlefild, Joseph Stebenne & Marie Valliere (sic) Children of MARIE-LOUISE STEBENNE and CHARLES SANSCARTIER are: i. MARIE-FRANCOISE6 SANSCARTIER, b. November 19, 1784; m. CHARLES BRAULT, August 08, 1808, St-Mathias de Rouville5. ii. MARIE-LOUISE SANSCARTIER, b. August 17, 1786; m. PIERRE BRAULT, August 08, 1808, St-Mathias de Rouville5. iii. CHARLES SANSCARTIER, b. March 01, 1788; d. March 28, 1862, Marieville; m. (1) CECILE URSULE DAVIGNON, September 19, 1814, St-Mathias de Rouville; m. (2) EMILIE THOMAS, May 13, 1834, St-Mathias de Rouville. More About EMILIE THOMAS: AKA (Facts Page): Monast iv. TOUSSAINT SANSCARTIER, b. January 11, 1789. v. JEAN-BAPTISTE SANSCARTIER, b. January 22, 1792; d. April 13, 1855, Bourbonnais, Kankakee County, Illinois; m. MARIE-DESANGES BRUNET, July 24, 1815, St-Mathias de Rouville5. vi. JOSEPH SANSCARTIER, b. June 01, 1794; m. MARIE LAPOINTE-DESAUTEL, May 10, 1819, St-Jean-Baptiste de Rouville. vii. MARIE-BRIGITTE SANSCARTIER, b. February 19, 1796; d. March 16, 1797. viii. PIERRE-ALPHONSE SANSCARTIER, b. May 15, 1798, St-Mathias de Rouville6; m. SOPHIE FREGEAULT, October 14, 1834, St-Cesaire de Rouville. ix. EDOUARD SANSCARTIER6, b. May 16, 1799, St-Mathias de Rouville; m. (1) MARGUERITE HAMEL, February 24, 1824, St-Mathias de Rouville; m. (2) ELISABETH GUYON, September 13, 1831, St-Mathias de Rouville. More About EDOUARD SANSCARTIER: Occupation: 1831, Carpenter/farmer x. CATHERINE SANSCARTIER, b. 1803, St-Mathias de Rouville; d. August 12, 1868, L'Erable, Iroquois, Illinois; m. FRANCOIS PONTON, January 13, 1823, St-Mathias de Rouville. Endnotes 1. Jette, page 630. 2. Repertoire de St-Joseph de Chambly. 3. PRDH. 4. Tanguay. 5. repertoire de St-Mathias de Rouville. 6. PRDH.

Hi Cheryl, Me again, I remembered seeing the name in baptisms - found Stebenne as godparents as in Dosithee Steben godmother to Alfred Yong in Keeseville in 1858 - numerous other entries. Andree

Hi Cheryl, I have Stebbins in my tree - mine did not go (I don't think!) to NY - they are in Quebec BUT the name is spelled STEBENNE there. Are you aware of the story of their capture in Deerfield MA, in 1704 where they were taken prisoner, brought to Quebec, stayed and had families? Since you stated he married a Marie Lavallee I would strongly feel you need to look in Quebec for your ancestors. If you think this might be worth pursuing I have church records for their parish I can look at as well as names and dates of the Stebenne families. Contact me if you want these. Regards, Andree

http://www.sara.nysed.gov/new/mailinrequ.htm If affected, please read the above news item for details and where to go via foot to get records. Harriet Chase of WA

Would you be able to provide more information from the book Notable Men of Clinton County. I would be interested in the early settlers and any who were there before 1798. I am looking for Oliver Sanders, in particular, but I lose him about 1798 and thought if I knew some of the other persons who were in the area, like Newton Ransom etc., I might be able to find his family members. Thank you Jean Sanders in Haverhill MA

Hi In my ever go-around in search of my ggrandfather, Ezra Bowers Chase, who according to MA archives Death Log, indicate who might be him, born in Burke, NY, with father, George. No data to be found on Ezra. However, some of you have done a search and found a reference to George Chase,of MA, an officer of Champlain Transp. CO, Have tried to get info on this company and in my searching all I get is things relative to Lake Champlain. Can anyone direst me as to where eI might get this desired info. Thanks Harriet Chase, born and raised in VT Now in WA

Hi, and thanks... I've been in touch with that same dept. They have no records for the Catholic cemeteries as those two refused to allow the McLellan's to record the information when the McLellan Cemetery Index was first made. Thank you anyway! Susan At 09:55 PM 2/10/00 -0500, you wrote: > Try contacting Michael Burgess at Special collections at The Feinberg >Library >2 draper Ave. Plattsburgh NY 12901. I found listings on the NY site of >cemeteries and this is who to contact for copies. Susan Laursen Willig in AZ [email protected] For a genealogist everything is relative!

Hello again, does anyone have any information on the Danawaga Reservation? Would that be included in the census of that area in the early 1800's? I did find a web site that has some of the people listed in the census, I will look for that and post it. Rosemary -----Original Message----- From: Joyce M Duval <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [NYCLINTO-L] Indian tribes >Please keep this exchange on line. Our VADEBONCOEURS were in Keeseville >in mid 1800s, and were mostly Indian, but trying to find proof has been >difficult. Supposedly came originally from Kanawaga Reservation near >Montreal but some were on the Canadian side of the St Regis Res. early in >1800s. ( using the BONCOEUR form of the name which became BUNKER where >the VADEBONCOEURS became HARTS) Pursuing this, in the early census of >Clinton Co. ( late 1700s), were the slaves that a few Clinton County >owners were taxed on, Indian? Joyce > >

My. ancestors are from Alburg,Vt. Chazy NY. I talked to a relative that said one of my Ancestors, married an Abenakis Indian, he was reading some kinda paper, I guess, but he said he didn't know if HALPRIN was a sur name or the name of the tribe. he said the paper was faded. I GOT THIS OFF THE WEB: ST. FRANCIS /SKOKOKI BAND ABENAKIS OF VT. I SEARCHED INFO SEEK. I DIDN'T LOOK FOR IT YET. BUT HOP THIS HELPS. ELAINE

Hi, Susan, Try St. Peter's Church for the one cemetery and St. John's Church for the other. I don't have their numbers right at hand, but you can get them from switchboard.com. Good luck. -- Candy_B [email protected] Researching Bennett, Cooper, Vanderveer, Woolley & related families in NJ Researching O'Brien, Brown, Boyle, Cavanaugh, Noonan, Fitzgerald, Spellman, Messier (Macey), LaCroix (Cross), Blais (Blair), Durand, Simonneau, Chabbot (Jabbot, Jabaut), Boucher, Sharron and related families in NY, New England and Quebec

Please keep this information on line as I have been trying to find out information about my husband's great grandmother. The talk in the family was that she was a "full blooded Indian" but on her death certificate it stated that she was born in Cadyville, NY. Everywhere that I find her there is a different maiden name, I have found her listed as Arpin and also Harper. Any information would be very helpful as Margaret Arpin or Harper born March 27, 1861, is my brick wall on my husband's side. Regards, Joanne Borden

Hi, List... Does anybody have or know where I can find a photograph of the old Keeseville Academy? Not only did several generations of my relatives go to school there, but one of then was a teacher there as well. It would be nice to be able to add such a photo to the family history. And cemeteries - tried McLellan and didn't find at least two of the ARTHUR burials that should be there in Plattsburgh. One if for Dr. CHARLES WINSLOW ARTHUR and the other was for his daughter, SUSAN E. ARTHUR. The only thing left is to try the two Catholic cemeteries. Does someone have the contact information for them, please? (At least I think there are only two Catholic cemeteries in Plattsburgh. Right?) Thanks, all... Susan Laursen Willig in AZ [email protected] For a genealogist everything is relative!

Try contacting Michael Burgess at Special collections at The Feinberg Library 2 draper Ave. Plattsburgh NY 12901. I found listings on the NY site of cemeteries and this is who to contact for copies.

To the best of my knowledge, the two primary deeded Indian reserves in our neighborhood in the 19th Century were the Mohawks at St Regis & Hogansburg, on the Canadian border near Malone, NY and the Caughnawaga, on the other (South) side of the river from Montreal. >From time to time individual Indians would establish hunting/trapping camps in various parts of the Adirondacks and their foothills. But to the best of my knowledge, there were no other reservations in the Adirondack area until modern times. (there is currently a small reserve on the Military Turnpike between Plattsburgh and Ellenburg, but this was established late in the 20th Century) I'm unfamliar with the Abenaki history, so it's possible that there was some later migration from Vermont or Mohicans from Connecticut & Massachusetts. But no reservations.

Hello Joyce, seems we are traveling the same path here. I have my allusive grgrgrandmother that was born in Montreal in abt. 1824 she lived at Hogansburg for a time with her parents when she was widowed in 1850 and although I have her parents Louis Sawyer (listed as a Frenchman from Canada) and his wife Mary, that is where it all stops. So I have sent thro my local library for varies books on diff. counties in Que. and Ont. as she lived in Maitland Ont. also before she was widowed. She had two Warner children from her married to a Andrew Warner, no info., and she later remarried a Frank Robideau and had several more children, but to find anyone its something. I also am trying for any maps and have a few, diff. time period. I have been trying to pin point reservations in route to Montreal and your letter has helped. I would be glad to share any info. with you. Rosemary -----Original Message----- From: Joyce M Duval <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, February 10, 2000 3:03 AM Subject: Re: [NYCLINTO-L] Indian tribes >Please keep this exchange on line. Our VADEBONCOEURS were in Keeseville >in mid 1800s, and were mostly Indian, but trying to find proof has been >difficult. Supposedly came originally from Kanawaga Reservation near >Montreal but some were on the Canadian side of the St Regis Res. early in >1800s. ( using the BONCOEUR form of the name which became BUNKER where >the VADEBONCOEURS became HARTS) Pursuing this, in the early census of >Clinton Co. ( late 1700s), were the slaves that a few Clinton County >owners were taxed on, Indian? Joyce > >

Yes, the table of contents are as follow: Prelude 1900-1909 Page 2-3 1910-1919 Pages 4 -9 1920-1929 Pages 10-18 1930-1939 Pages 19-27 1940-1949 Pages 37-46 1950-1959 Pages 47-54 1960-1969 Pages 55-65 1970-1979 Pages 66-74 1980-1989 Pages 75-82 1990-1999 Pages 83-96 It is a short synopsis of the North Country, but I think worthwhile. I used to live in Ausauble Forks just after the Second World War until 1951, when my father died. We then moved to the lower part of NYS. Jim In the book it mentions how the whole downtown of Ausable Forks burnt down. The Browns of Penfield ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raymond MacDonald" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2000 9:55 AM Subject: [NYCLINTO-L] Re: Northern New York Paper online > Jim: Could you tell us more about the book? Which ten decades are > covered: 1900-2000? Does it relate much of the history of communities > around 1900 (I'm interested in Ausable Forks area 1850-1920). Thanks. > > Ray > MACDONALD, ETHIER, DWAN > > ----- > >From: James V. Brown <[email protected]> > <> > >I ordered this over the Internet about 2 months ago. I received it and > >found it to be excellent. Worth more than the money. > > > >Jim > >The Browns of Penfield > ----- >

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Jim: Could you tell us more about the book? Which ten decades are covered: 1900-2000? Does it relate much of the history of communities around 1900 (I'm interested in Ausable Forks area 1850-1920). Thanks. Ray MACDONALD, ETHIER, DWAN ----- >From: James V. Brown <[email protected]> <> >I ordered this over the Internet about 2 months ago. I received it and >found it to be excellent. Worth more than the money. > >Jim >The Browns of Penfield -----