Anne, At first I was going to say, sorry don't see any connections to your Rachel. My Almeda (Amy) Gates was married to Sanford B. Burdick and in Pharsalia in 1850. They lived next to their parents. Almeda was the daughter of Rathbun Gates and Mary Lewis. They also lived near to of her brothers Thomas and Eleazer. Your Elijah and Antonette were in North Norwich in 1850, w/ children Simon D 7, John 4, and Mary or May 1. No obvious ties. However, going back one more generation it does look more interesting. Almeda's grandparents were Simeon Gates b. 1757 d. 1829 and Ruth Ann Rathbone (Rathbun) b. 1762 d. 1828 who were born in RI but died in Norwich, Chenango Co. They had children Rathbun b. 1786, d. 11/10/1869 bd McDonough Union Cemetery, Chenango Co. Ruth b. 1793, m James McNitt, d. 7/4/1871 bd. New Hope Cemetery, Norwich 1st Section NE corner Simeon (or Simon) Jr b. 1796 m. Mahitta died in 1783 in Norwich. bd. Simeon Gates farm in Norwich, Oxford Rd. Aaron Gates b. 1801 m. Rowena d. 4/21/ 1881 bd. New Hope Cemetery, Norwich Asel Gates Newman Gates b. 1806 m. Sarah. d. 4/2/1880 buried New Hope Cemetery, Norwich Simeon b. 1757 left a will leaving home farm to Aaron B and family Bible to Simeon My info comes from Censuses, family history performed by my aunt. Most of her work was not cited, but in this case she mentions "Gates family Bible owned by Mrs. Irene Gates of Norwich." Don't know if this is the bible mentioned in Simeon's will. I did check Simon Gates in the 1840 US Census in Norwich. He has 2 boys 14<20, 1 girl 5<10, 1 girl 10<15, 3 girls 15<20, plus he and his wife. In 1850 he has Mahitta, Juliet 24, George 21, Almira 19. A quick look at ancestry trees, folks only list Juliet and George as children, thus there are quite a few of his offspring unaccounted for including girls of age of your Rachel. In 1840, he lives a few household from James McNitt (probably his brother-in-law) and there are also some Rathbone's (Squire and Daniel) which may be relatives. Also interesting on the next page of the 1840 census are Justin Graves and Albert Tiffany who are NEIGHBORS of your Elijah and Antonette Smith in 1850 in North Norwich.... Sounds suspicious!! So can't confirm anything for you, but my bets are that my Almeda and your Rachel could very well be 1st cousins. Rachel's parents might be Simon and Mahitta... What do you think?? Looks like the wills of Simeon Jr (Simon) and Aaron Gates exist and could be ordered through www.sampub.com if you were interested. Teresa On May 4, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Anne wrote: > > > Teresa Culver <terryculver@embarqmail.com> wrote: In honor of > Mother's Day, > > I celebrate my maternal line. Paternal lines get so much attention > since they carry the surname, but as a woman and a genealogist one > must embrace the challenge of solving the shadowy mystery of the > maternal connections. > > The following is 13 generations of American women who our my family's > founders and who spent more than a century in Chenango County. > > 7) Almeda Gates abt 1822 Pharsalia, Chenango Co., New York > > Teresa > > I read your most interesting Maternal line. I have been hunting > for the possible parents of Rachel Gates, who married Elijah Smith. > Her eldest known child, Simon D Smith was born ca 1843. > > Webster Genealogy states Elijah Smith was a stone mason and his > wife was Rachel Antonette Gates, per the 1855 & 1865 Rachel was born > ca 1819 in Chenango County > > Anne > > > > > LIFE MAY NOT BE THE PARTY WE EXPECTED, BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE WE > MIGHT AS WELL DANCE. > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Thank you, Teresa Gates, Simeon Nov. 30, 1829 B 191 Gates, Simeon Oct. 1, 1830 C 31 I know someone who lives in Norwich. I shall write and ask him if he has time to look up these two wills, and other Gates in that timeline. Anne Teresa Culver <terryculver@embarqmail.com> wrote: Anne, At first I was going to say, sorry don't see any connections to your Rachel. My Almeda (Amy) Gates was married to Sanford B. Burdick and in Pharsalia in 1850. They lived next to their parents. Almeda was the daughter of Rathbun Gates and Mary Lewis. They also lived near to of her brothers Thomas and Eleazer. Your Elijah and Antonette were in North Norwich in 1850, w/ children Simon D 7, John 4, and Mary or May 1. No obvious ties. However, going back one more generation it does look more interesting. Almeda's grandparents were Simeon Gates b. 1757 d. 1829 and Ruth Ann Rathbone (Rathbun) b. 1762 d. 1828 who were born in RI but died in Norwich, Chenango Co. They had children Rathbun b. 1786, d. 11/10/1869 bd McDonough Union Cemetery, Chenango Co. Ruth b. 1793, m James McNitt, d. 7/4/1871 bd. New Hope Cemetery, Norwich 1st Section NE corner Simeon (or Simon) Jr b. 1796 m. Mahitta died in 1783 in Norwich. bd. Simeon Gates farm in Norwich, Oxford Rd. Aaron Gates b. 1801 m. Rowena d. 4/21/ 1881 bd. New Hope Cemetery, Norwich Asel Gates Newman Gates b. 1806 m. Sarah. d. 4/2/1880 buried New Hope Cemetery, Norwich Simeon b. 1757 left a will leaving home farm to Aaron B and family Bible to Simeon My info comes from Censuses, family history performed by my aunt. Most of her work was not cited, but in this case she mentions "Gates family Bible owned by Mrs. Irene Gates of Norwich." Don't know if this is the bible mentioned in Simeon's will. I did check Simon Gates in the 1840 US Census in Norwich. He has 2 boys 14<20, 1 girl 5<10, 1 girl 10<15, 3 girls 15<20, plus he and his wife. In 1850 he has Mahitta, Juliet 24, George 21, Almira 19. A quick look at ancestry trees, folks only list Juliet and George as children, thus there are quite a few of his offspring unaccounted for including girls of age of your Rachel. In 1840, he lives a few household from James McNitt (probably his brother-in-law) and there are also some Rathbone's (Squire and Daniel) which may be relatives. Also interesting on the next page of the 1840 census are Justin Graves and Albert Tiffany who are NEIGHBORS of your Elijah and Antonette Smith in 1850 in North Norwich.... Sounds suspicious!! So can't confirm anything for you, but my bets are that my Almeda and your Rachel could very well be 1st cousins. Rachel's parents might be Simon and Mahitta... What do you think?? Looks like the wills of Simeon Jr (Simon) and Aaron Gates exist and could be ordered through www.sampub.com if you were interested. Teresa On May 4, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Anne wrote: > > > Teresa Culver wrote: In honor of > Mother's Day, > > I celebrate my maternal line. Paternal lines get so much attention > since they carry the surname, but as a woman and a genealogist one > must embrace the challenge of solving the shadowy mystery of the > maternal connections. > > The following is 13 generations of American women who our my family's > founders and who spent more than a century in Chenango County. > > 7) Almeda Gates abt 1822 Pharsalia, Chenango Co., New York > > Teresa > > I read your most interesting Maternal line. I have been hunting > for the possible parents of Rachel Gates, who married Elijah Smith. > Her eldest known child, Simon D Smith was born ca 1843. > > Webster Genealogy states Elijah Smith was a stone mason and his > wife was Rachel Antonette Gates, per the 1855 & 1865 Rachel was born > ca 1819 in Chenango County > > Anne > > > > > LIFE MAY NOT BE THE PARTY WE EXPECTED, BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE WE > MIGHT AS WELL DANCE. > > > --------------------------------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message LIFE MAY NOT BE THE PARTY WE EXPECTED, BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE WE MIGHT AS WELL DANCE. --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.