Hmm, if the second Simeon's death date is Oct 1, 1830, that can't be the will of Simeon/Simon in the 1850 US Census, and the one possibly Rachel's father. Oh Well. Maybe there will be some other tie. TBCulver On May 5, 2008, at 9:28 AM, Anne wrote: > Thank you, Teresa > Gates, Simeon Nov. 30, 1829 B 191 Gates, Simeon Oct. > 1, 1830 C 31 > > I know someone who lives in Norwich. I shall write and ask him if he > has time to look up these two wills, and other Gates in that timeline. > > Anne > > Teresa Culver <terryculver@embarqmail.com> wrote: > Anne, > At first I was going to say, sorry don't see any connections to your > Rachel. > My Almeda (Amy) Gates was married to Sanford B. Burdick and in > Pharsalia in 1850. They lived next to their parents. Almeda was the > daughter of Rathbun Gates and Mary Lewis. They also lived near to of > her brothers Thomas and Eleazer. Your Elijah and Antonette were in > North Norwich in 1850, w/ children Simon D 7, John 4, and Mary or May > 1. No obvious ties. > > However, going back one more generation it does look more > interesting. Almeda's grandparents were Simeon Gates b. 1757 d. 1829 > and Ruth Ann Rathbone (Rathbun) b. 1762 d. 1828 who were born in RI > but died in Norwich, Chenango Co. They had children > Rathbun b. 1786, d. 11/10/1869 bd McDonough Union Cemetery, Chenango > Co. > Ruth b. 1793, m James McNitt, d. 7/4/1871 bd. New Hope Cemetery, > Norwich 1st Section NE corner > Simeon (or Simon) Jr b. 1796 m. Mahitta died in 1783 in Norwich. bd. > Simeon Gates farm in Norwich, Oxford Rd. > Aaron Gates b. 1801 m. Rowena d. 4/21/ 1881 bd. New Hope Cemetery, > Norwich > Asel Gates > Newman Gates b. 1806 m. Sarah. d. 4/2/1880 buried New Hope Cemetery, > Norwich > > Simeon b. 1757 left a will leaving home farm to Aaron B and family > Bible to Simeon > > My info comes from Censuses, family history performed by my aunt. > Most of her work was not cited, but in this case she mentions > "Gates family Bible owned by Mrs. Irene Gates of Norwich." Don't know > if this is the bible mentioned in Simeon's will. > > I did check Simon Gates in the 1840 US Census in Norwich. He has 2 > boys 14<20, 1 girl 5<10, 1 girl 10<15, 3 girls 15<20, plus he and his > wife. In 1850 he has Mahitta, Juliet 24, George 21, Almira 19. A > quick look at ancestry trees, folks only list Juliet and George as > children, thus there are quite a few of his offspring unaccounted for > including girls of age of your Rachel. > In 1840, he lives a few household from James McNitt (probably his > brother-in-law) and there are also some Rathbone's (Squire and Daniel) > which may be relatives. > Also interesting on the next page of the 1840 census are Justin Graves > and Albert Tiffany who are NEIGHBORS of your Elijah and Antonette > Smith in 1850 in North Norwich.... Sounds suspicious!! > > So can't confirm anything for you, but my bets are that my Almeda and > your Rachel could very well be 1st cousins. Rachel's parents might be > Simon and Mahitta... > > What do you think?? > > Looks like the wills of Simeon Jr (Simon) and Aaron Gates exist and > could be ordered through www.sampub.com if you were interested. > > Teresa > > > On May 4, 2008, at 1:37 PM, Anne wrote: > >> >> >> Teresa Culver wrote: In honor of >> Mother's Day, >> >> I celebrate my maternal line. Paternal lines get so much attention >> since they carry the surname, but as a woman and a genealogist one >> must embrace the challenge of solving the shadowy mystery of the >> maternal connections. >> >> The following is 13 generations of American women who our my family's >> founders and who spent more than a century in Chenango County. >> >> 7) Almeda Gates abt 1822 Pharsalia, Chenango Co., New York >> >> Teresa >> >> I read your most interesting Maternal line. I have been hunting >> for the possible parents of Rachel Gates, who married Elijah Smith. >> Her eldest known child, Simon D Smith was born ca 1843. >> >> Webster Genealogy states Elijah Smith was a stone mason and his >> wife was Rachel Antonette Gates, per the 1855 & 1865 Rachel was born >> ca 1819 in Chenango County >> >> Anne >> >> >> >> >> LIFE MAY NOT BE THE PARTY WE EXPECTED, BUT AS LONG AS WE'RE HERE WE >> MIGHT AS WELL DANCE. >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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