Tim, Check out this site. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nysource/ggg/goer01.htm Shirley and her Husband were shot to death in their winter home in Florida, by a loony, for something like poison cookies. She was very well known and very well liked. I have several of her books and wish I had more. Dave **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Shirley Boyce Goerlich (abt. 1937-2005) was a graduate of Sidney High School, possibly Cobleskill College, teacher, genealogist, Town of Unadilla Historian, Organizing Regent of Gen. John Paterson Chapter, NSDAR at Whitney Point, NY. She authored a number of books. Wife of Robert Goerlich, mother of Bobby and Daniel. Shirley and her husband were shot and killed April 2005 by a deranged woman who she had befriended at their winter home in Florida. I knew Shirley personally when she lived in Greene, NY and was Regent of our DAR chapter. The family moved back to the Sidney area when her father became ill. Chris Gillette **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

This book along with other regional books I discovered on an Ebay site, passing along for general interest. These include Otsego, Delaware and Chenango counties. http://myworld.ebay.com/jwinfieldg/ Most interesting about this was the author, Shirley Goerlich, from what I gathered was in her time a dedicated historian, publishing several books for the region. If someone can expand a bio of her, please do so. Thanks, Tim

Hi Evelyn: Oh, I daresay that is not funny, but sounds to me like the person that put it on thought it was hilarious, and a joke. This could happen on any site--rootsweb, ancestry, you name it--we are all at the mercy of someone putting information on line. Hopefully I have not done anything to make someone mad at me. Dorothy

Findagrave: I'd like to let people know that you can not always trust what you see there. Several months ago I found a listing for a young man in my family who was Alive and Well. I tried to contact the person who put the information there but the email came back saying it was an invalid address. I did not consider it funny, nor did the young man who it was about. evelyn

Not completely true. I cannot "replace someone else's information with correct information", but I can contact the originator of the information and he/she can correct it. I've done it with my own stuff when I finally came up with a complete date, and I have contacted an originator and it is up to them to fix it. As for pictures--I don't know--I am not computer literate enough to know how to send one, but I'll learn one of these days. Dorothy

There is a dark secret about findagrave.com I found out from a group who tried to replace lousy photos with better photos. I still have that message informing me of the problem. Findagrave.com will not allow it. Not at all. Not even to update the information already there. Like replacing the incomplete dates with complete dates. newyorkgravestones.org allow it - just contact the administrator direct and the photo will be replaced, no question asked. Even to add new updated information. Better features are at newyorkgravestones site - quick searches and locating specific information in different ways. Even to find a married daughter whose married name is not known to you. Searches are available in different ways. Findagrave.com is more on data rather than photos. NewYorkgravestones has BOTH, every time. W. David Samuelsen, New York Gravestone Photo Project

It's a terrific site. My grt grt grt grandmother's tombstone is there, thanks to someone. ----- Original Message ----- From: "dorothy baker" <dedor7020@yahoo.com> To: <nychenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] Gravestone Marker photos online > Another wonderful gravestone site is http://www.findagrave.com You can > add information, pictures of tombstones, or family, obituaries, flowers, > all at no cost. > > Dorothy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: SEELEY Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.chenango/6.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi Patt: I've printed 10-15 pages of info for you. Send me a mailing address & I will sent it to you. Regards, T. J. Seeley Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

If you are interested in good maps, or plan on doing any land research anywhere in New York State, then you will likely want to read my review of one of the very best New York State Atlases available. You will find the article on the Upstate New York Genealogy Blogsite, by going to www.unyg.com and clicking on the "UNYG Blog" tab at the top. Dick Hillenbrand - www,unyg.com

Another wonderful gravestone site is http://www.findagrave.com You can add information, pictures of tombstones, or family, obituaries, flowers, all at no cost. Dorothy

http://www.newyorkgravestones.org/ Are you aware of the photos being put online slowly but sure? If you have bits of information you know you have to add to that person, please email me with the information to add to the specific photos. If you have good photos of gravestone markers laying around and want to add to share, this is the place. W. David Samuelsen New York Gravestone Photo Project

I may be wrong but I believe the 1930 Census asked for the age when they were married so I believe Asa was 24 yrs. old and Helen was 22 yrs. old. Connie ----- Original Message ----- From: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> To: <NYCHENAN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] Asa Martin Edwards > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: aurina > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.chenango/330.3.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > plus 1930 census asa says he has been married for 24 yrs, and helen for 22 > yrs-seems she was the second wife. > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: MaxWard44 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.chenango/1266.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thanks very much for checking the cemetery records for Harriet. I guess I'm not surprised that she was buried in an unmarked grave, which probably also means that she was not buried adjacent to any relatives. Yes, I've been in contact with the Chenango County Historian and have just mailed her some information. Max Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aurina Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.chenango/330.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: do you have any info on helens sister mary(alice), who did she marry? where did she live? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aurina Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.chenango/330.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: if you can find helens marriage license application, not just the license, her mothers maiden name, assuming she knew it, should be on there. also, on her death cert, assuming whoever filled it out knew. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: aurina Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.chenango/330.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: plus 1930 census asa says he has been married for 24 yrs, and helen for 22 yrs-seems she was the second wife. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rmattes_1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.chenango/1266.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In the research I have done on Harriet Ward it is my understanding Harriet is buried in an unmarked grave. Also I've been in contact with the Chenango County Historian, she informed me she is waiting for some more information from you so she can do more research in her office. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Donna, Have you looked for John Vosburg's will? It might give the relationship between Jesse and John. Do you know the religious affiliation of the Vosburg's or Mr Crosby? Chruch records may contain some information. Jesse's DC and obit should have some reference to his being adopted. Guardianship papers at the Surrogate Court clerk's office may also tell his story. Hope this helps. Rick Porter Finger Lakes House Histories -----Original Message----- >From: MOM42853@aol.com >Sent: Dec 4, 2007 7:48 AM >To: nychenan@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] NYCHENAN Digest, Vol 2, Issue 158 > >Hello All! >I am searching for information on my great-grandfather, Jesse Crosby, >probably born in 1884 in German, Chenango County, NY. He was aparently brought up >by John and Helen Green Vosburg. In Helen's will she refers to him as "Jesse >crosby, an adopted son or a boy living with me." > >John Vosburg died in 1892 and Helen died in 1896. They lived in German, >Chenango County and are buried in Lower Cincinnatus Cemetery. > >Jesse had told his children that his father died when he was 8 and his mother >died when he was 12 but they did not know that the Vosburg's were not his >real parents. > >I would appreciate any informtion or suggestions on how to find out more >about Jesse. > >Kindest regards, > >Donna > > > >**************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest >products. >(http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi You might want to write to the German Village/Town Clerks to see if his Birth Certificate was filed there. It appears he was B after B Records were filed in NYS. His Marriage Record might also list his Parents and/or his Death Record. I would also search the Guardianship Records for Chenango County for the years following his DOB up to about 1900. It would appear that the Vosburg Family were his legal Guardians. If you knew the church that the family attended you might also find church records that name his parents. Pat R