Thanks, Tim, The greeting cards are such fun and your message is beautiful, so thoughtful and appropriate. My wish for you is the same, a good closing of the books for 2007, a better opening in 2008. Happy Christmas, Sally Bailey

Tim, The greeting cards were beautiful ; thank you ! Melva Calaman (researching Mercy Hackett in Chenango County.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <nychenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:21 PM Subject: [NYCHENAN] for all seasons > Another year is drawing to a close. We've seen some good times and > some bad times, happiness and sadness. Sometimes these are mixed > leaving us wondering. > > Some may have lost loved ones or are near such an event. Some may > have new ones coming into their lives. I suppose for most it has > been a mixed bag year. > > We wonder what the new year will bring in it's bag - hope, joy, > sorrow and a whole host of emotions no doubt. > > This note is to wish each of you a good closing of the books for > 2007, a better opening in 2008. > > As of this evening this list has 218 members. > > Years ago my grandmother saved several postcards sent to her in the > early years of the 20th century. Some of these are presented for > your enjoyment classified as Christmas and New Year's Day cards. > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state1/cards/chrstmas.htm > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state1/cards/newyears.htm > > Tim Stowell > Chattanooga, TN > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Another year is drawing to a close. We've seen some good times and some bad times, happiness and sadness. Sometimes these are mixed leaving us wondering. Some may have lost loved ones or are near such an event. Some may have new ones coming into their lives. I suppose for most it has been a mixed bag year. We wonder what the new year will bring in it's bag - hope, joy, sorrow and a whole host of emotions no doubt. This note is to wish each of you a good closing of the books for 2007, a better opening in 2008. As of this evening this list has 218 members. Years ago my grandmother saved several postcards sent to her in the early years of the 20th century. Some of these are presented for your enjoyment classified as Christmas and New Year's Day cards. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state1/cards/chrstmas.htm http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ga/state1/cards/newyears.htm Tim Stowell Chattanooga, TN

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: canis1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.chenango/1272.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I would try proabte records or obituaries on his parents.His name is too common to narrow down, as there are Charles Kings in other locations born around 1879. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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If one looks under Madison County, NY on eBay there is a blurb about a photo of the John Hewitt family. If one looks at that particular listing it gives a way to see other photos (28) from the same album which includes several other surnames in Madison and Chenango counties particularly around Otselic. Surnames seen - Hurd, Benson, Brewer, Byrd, Barnes, Nagus, Blissett, Beach, Hewitt, Palmer, Peet, Sayer, Weeks, Wells and White. Quite a nice collection of photos. I have the surname Hurd showing up in my line, so I'll have to see if their sitting out on one of my branches. Tim Stowell Chattanooga, TN

Read a 1931 newspaper account of the Daughters of the American Revolution (DAR,) marking the graves of 595 Revolutionary War Soldiers that were buried in Onondaga County. The soldiers names and burial locations are listed within. Go to www.unyg.com, click on the "UNYG Blog" at the top of the page to read this story. Dick Hillenbrand - Upstate New York Genealogy - www.unyg.com

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: DMWKing Surnames: King & Dillon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.newyork.counties.chenango/1272/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Did Charles A King son of Mary A. Dillon & John Howard King die young. He is listed in the 1880 Norwich census, but I am unable to find him in the 1900 census - Dies anyone lically know if he died young? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

In a message dated 12/13/2007 11:26:23 AM Eastern Standard Time, Tnclk@aol.com writes: > Didn't someone do a Christmas recording similar to that a few years back. Hi Chris Not sure about that, but it could be possible. Eugene Field was very popular back a number of years ago and my Dad (actually my step Dad but I always called him Dad) recited a lot of his humor. He was a popular speaker and was asked to recite a great deal for Events. I think he liked his sense of humor. Dad always recited a lot of Robert Service also. Right after you wrote about Noon (as the Noon News on TV did not have the report yet) it started snowing hard and has been snowing every since then. It is steady but does not look real blustery yet. Actually quite pretty. Last year Larry and I went for a walk when it snowed a few times and the weather was not too bitter. I have been wrapping presents and I might go for a walk around the Park to look at the decorations before dark to reminisce. I really miss Larry being with me and it was especially hard on 11/30 which was our anniversary. I guess the first year is the hardest and yesterday was only 3 months since he passed. Holiday Cheers Pat (Up in Snowy Cape Vincent) but loving the change of Seasons.

Thanks, Tim I loved reading this poem by Eugene Field. One lesson I got, as a genealogist, was that people 100-200 years ago and earlier, who might have completed just the 8th grade, a real educational accomplishment in those days, were quite happy to be able to spell even though it was just phonetically. Some of the schools in those days only went to the eighth grade. If you wanted more education, you would have to go away for it. If you finished the 8th grade, and did well, then you were qualified to teach others. We should be glad that they spelled the way they did because that's the reason we have some of the wonderful records that they left behind. It's more than being tolerant. It's being grateful that they were able to record anything in those days. Eugene Field was a great American author. Now, let's see...cemetery or cemetary? Merry Christmas to all. -----Original Message----- From: nycortla-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nycortla-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Stowell Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:44 AM To: nychenan@rootsweb.com; nymadiso@rootsweb.com; nycortla@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYCORTLA] Jest 'Fore Christmas JEST 'FORE CHRISTMAS Father calls me William, sister calls me Will, Mother calls me Willie, but the fellers call me Bill! Mighty glad I ain't a girl---ruther be a boy, Without them sashes, curls, an' things that's worn by Fauntleroy! Love to chawnk green apples an' go swimmin' in the lake--- Hate to take the castor-ile they give for bellyache! Most all the time, the whole year round, there ain't no flies on me, But jest 'fore Christmas I'm as good as I kin be! Got a yeller dog named Sport, sick him in the cat; First thing she knows she doesn't know where she is at! Got a clipper sled, an' when us kids goes out to slide, 'Long comes the grocery cart, an' we all hook a ride! But sometimes when the grocery man is worrited an' cross, He reaches at us with his whip, an' larrups up his hoss, An' then I laff and holler, "Oh, ye never teched me!" But jest 'fore Christmas I'm as good as I kin be! Gran'ma says she hopes that when I git to be a man, I'll be a missionarer like her oldest brother, Dan, As was et up by the cannibuls that lives in Ceylon's Isle, Where every prospeck pleases, an' only man is vile! But gran'ma she has never been to see a Wild West show, Nor read the Life of Daniel Boone, or else I guess she'd know That Buff'lo Bill an' cow-boys is good enough for me! Excep' jest 'fore Christmas, when I'm good as I kin be! And then old Sport he hangs around, so solemnly an' still, His eyes they seem a-sayin': "What's the matter, little Bill?" The old cat sneaks down off her perch an' wonders what's become Of them two enemies of hern that used to make things hum! But I am so perlite an' 'tend so earnestly to biz, That mother says to father: "How improved our Willie is!" But father, havin' been a boy hisself, suspicions me When, just 'fore Christmas, I'm as good as I kin be! For Christmas, with its lots an' lots of candies, cakes, and toys, Was made, they say, for proper kids an' not for naughty boys; So wash yer face an' bresh yer hair, an' mind yer p's and q's, An' don't bust out yer pantaloons, and don't wear out yer shoes; Say "Yessum" to the ladies, an' "Yessur" to the men, An' when they's company, don't pass yer plate for pie again; But, thinkin' of the things yer'd like to see upon that tree, Jest 'fore Christmas be as good as yer kin be! - Eugene Field Tim Stowell Chattanooga, TN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCORTLA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tim, That it's absolutely priceless. I had never heard this one before. Thank and Merry Christmas, Steve Goyette, Ainse, Cyr, Gagnier, Gascon, Regnier, Regney, Morrency < Rochester, Monroe, NY 1850 < Montreal, Quebec Baumgartner < Rochester, NY 1883 < Waterville, Oneida, NY 1881 < Switzerland 1880 Wood, Baldwin, Billings, Brown, Bugbee, Farrington < Rochester, NY 1820 < Smyrna, Chenango Co., NY 1798 < Stonington, Tolland, CT Starrett, Philbrook < Warren, PA 1840 < ME Steven J. Goyette Houston, Texas http://homepage.mac.com/stjogo/goyette/index.html 281-955-0432 home 800-229-3550 office http://www.scfilmvideo.com

Hi Pat, Snowing hard down here in Broome County right now. Didn't someone do a Christmas recording similar to that a few years back. Seems like my brother thought it was pretty funny. He could have been Will when he was a kid. Chris Gillette **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)

Tim Thank you for placing " Jest Fore Christmas" on the list. It brought back fond memories of my childhood as I remembered Dad reciting this same poem to us at the fireplace many years ago. . Pat R

Wonderful! Thanks for sharing, and have a great Christmas... -----Original Message----- From: nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Stowell Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:44 AM To: nychenan@rootsweb.com; nymadiso@rootsweb.com; nycortla@rootsweb.com Subject: [NYCHENAN] Jest 'Fore Christmas JEST 'FORE CHRISTMAS Father calls me William, sister calls me Will, Mother calls me Willie, but the fellers call me Bill! Mighty glad I ain't a girl---ruther be a boy, Without them sashes, curls, an' things that's worn by Fauntleroy! Love to chawnk green apples an' go swimmin' in the lake--- Hate to take the castor-ile they give for bellyache! Most all the time, the whole year round, there ain't no flies on me, But jest 'fore Christmas I'm as good as I kin be! Got a yeller dog named Sport, sick him in the cat; First thing she knows she doesn't know where she is at! Got a clipper sled, an' when us kids goes out to slide, 'Long comes the grocery cart, an' we all hook a ride! But sometimes when the grocery man is worrited an' cross, He reaches at us with his whip, an' larrups up his hoss, An' then I laff and holler, "Oh, ye never teched me!" But jest 'fore Christmas I'm as good as I kin be! Gran'ma says she hopes that when I git to be a man, I'll be a missionarer like her oldest brother, Dan, As was et up by the cannibuls that lives in Ceylon's Isle, Where every prospeck pleases, an' only man is vile! But gran'ma she has never been to see a Wild West show, Nor read the Life of Daniel Boone, or else I guess she'd know That Buff'lo Bill an' cow-boys is good enough for me! Excep' jest 'fore Christmas, when I'm good as I kin be! And then old Sport he hangs around, so solemnly an' still, His eyes they seem a-sayin': "What's the matter, little Bill?" The old cat sneaks down off her perch an' wonders what's become Of them two enemies of hern that used to make things hum! But I am so perlite an' 'tend so earnestly to biz, That mother says to father: "How improved our Willie is!" But father, havin' been a boy hisself, suspicions me When, just 'fore Christmas, I'm as good as I kin be! For Christmas, with its lots an' lots of candies, cakes, and toys, Was made, they say, for proper kids an' not for naughty boys; So wash yer face an' bresh yer hair, an' mind yer p's and q's, An' don't bust out yer pantaloons, and don't wear out yer shoes; Say "Yessum" to the ladies, an' "Yessur" to the men, An' when they's company, don't pass yer plate for pie again; But, thinkin' of the things yer'd like to see upon that tree, Jest 'fore Christmas be as good as yer kin be! - Eugene Field Tim Stowell Chattanooga, TN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Tim, what a delightful story. I got a chuckle out of it, but also realized how true it is. Bruce > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:44:21 -0500 > From: Tim Stowell <tstowell@chattanooga.net> > Subject: [NYCHENAN] Jest 'Fore Christmas > To: nychenan@rootsweb.com, nymadiso@rootsweb.com, > nycortla@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <200712130645.lBD6iVKT030383@mail.rootsweb.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > JEST 'FORE CHRISTMAS > > Father calls me William, sister calls me Will, > Mother calls me Willie, but the fellers call me Bill! > Mighty glad I ain't a girl---ruther be a boy, > Without them sashes, curls, an' things that's worn by Fauntleroy! > Love to chawnk green apples an' go swimmin' in the lake--- > Hate to take the castor-ile they give for bellyache! > Most all the time, the whole year round, there ain't no flies on me, > But jest 'fore Christmas I'm as good as I kin be! > > Got a yeller dog named Sport, sick him in the cat; > First thing she knows she doesn't know where she is at! > Got a clipper sled, an' when us kids goes out to slide, > 'Long comes the grocery cart, an' we all hook a ride! > But sometimes when the grocery man is worrited an' cross, > He reaches at us with his whip, an' larrups up his hoss, > An' then I laff and holler, "Oh, ye never teched me!" > But jest 'fore Christmas I'm as good as I kin be! > > Gran'ma says she hopes that when I git to be a man, > I'll be a missionarer like her oldest brother, Dan, > As was et up by the cannibuls that lives in Ceylon's Isle, > Where every prospeck pleases, an' only man is vile! > But gran'ma she has never been to see a Wild West show, > Nor read the Life of Daniel Boone, or else I guess she'd know > That Buff'lo Bill an' cow-boys is good enough for me! > Excep' jest 'fore Christmas, when I'm good as I kin be! > > And then old Sport he hangs around, so solemnly an' still, > His eyes they seem a-sayin': "What's the matter, little Bill?" > The old cat sneaks down off her perch an' wonders what's become > Of them two enemies of hern that used to make things hum! > But I am so perlite an' 'tend so earnestly to biz, > That mother says to father: "How improved our Willie is!" > But father, havin' been a boy hisself, suspicions me > When, just 'fore Christmas, I'm as good as I kin be! > > For Christmas, with its lots an' lots of candies, cakes, and toys, > Was made, they say, for proper kids an' not for naughty boys; > So wash yer face an' bresh yer hair, an' mind yer p's and q's, > An' don't bust out yer pantaloons, and don't wear out yer shoes; > Say "Yessum" to the ladies, an' "Yessur" to the men, > An' when they's company, don't pass yer plate for pie again; > But, thinkin' of the things yer'd like to see upon that tree, > Jest 'fore Christmas be as good as yer kin be! > > - Eugene Field > Tim Stowell > Chattanooga, TN

JEST 'FORE CHRISTMAS Father calls me William, sister calls me Will, Mother calls me Willie, but the fellers call me Bill! Mighty glad I ain't a girl---ruther be a boy, Without them sashes, curls, an' things that's worn by Fauntleroy! Love to chawnk green apples an' go swimmin' in the lake--- Hate to take the castor-ile they give for bellyache! Most all the time, the whole year round, there ain't no flies on me, But jest 'fore Christmas I'm as good as I kin be! Got a yeller dog named Sport, sick him in the cat; First thing she knows she doesn't know where she is at! Got a clipper sled, an' when us kids goes out to slide, 'Long comes the grocery cart, an' we all hook a ride! But sometimes when the grocery man is worrited an' cross, He reaches at us with his whip, an' larrups up his hoss, An' then I laff and holler, "Oh, ye never teched me!" But jest 'fore Christmas I'm as good as I kin be! Gran'ma says she hopes that when I git to be a man, I'll be a missionarer like her oldest brother, Dan, As was et up by the cannibuls that lives in Ceylon's Isle, Where every prospeck pleases, an' only man is vile! But gran'ma she has never been to see a Wild West show, Nor read the Life of Daniel Boone, or else I guess she'd know That Buff'lo Bill an' cow-boys is good enough for me! Excep' jest 'fore Christmas, when I'm good as I kin be! And then old Sport he hangs around, so solemnly an' still, His eyes they seem a-sayin': "What's the matter, little Bill?" The old cat sneaks down off her perch an' wonders what's become Of them two enemies of hern that used to make things hum! But I am so perlite an' 'tend so earnestly to biz, That mother says to father: "How improved our Willie is!" But father, havin' been a boy hisself, suspicions me When, just 'fore Christmas, I'm as good as I kin be! For Christmas, with its lots an' lots of candies, cakes, and toys, Was made, they say, for proper kids an' not for naughty boys; So wash yer face an' bresh yer hair, an' mind yer p's and q's, An' don't bust out yer pantaloons, and don't wear out yer shoes; Say "Yessum" to the ladies, an' "Yessur" to the men, An' when they's company, don't pass yer plate for pie again; But, thinkin' of the things yer'd like to see upon that tree, Jest 'fore Christmas be as good as yer kin be! - Eugene Field Tim Stowell Chattanooga, TN

As i have no known relatives buried in New York (mine got out before they died), i can't address the accuracy of the nygravestones.org site. I've added a few photos on FindAGrave, but mainly entered relatives' burial info. You can change data that you have entered, at any time -- with the exception of an incorrect cemetery, sysadmin must take care of that. If someone else has incomplete a/o incorrect burial data, you can either contact them and suggest corrections (remember, they may have their own "correct" sources), or make a separate entry containing your own data. I have used both approaches, on occasion. Some of the data may have been entered from books created by cemetery walk-throughs, reading the stones. So it's possible that someone "alive & well" may be entered, if they happen to be listed on another person's stone. Also, in my own experience, have found people listed on multiple stones in separate cemeteries (husband listed on both wives' stones, for example). If i can't find other evidence, i don't enter the person at all. FindAGrave is only as good as the input; i'm sure the same can be said for nygravestones.org, and all other such sites. That said, i've found relatives that i would never have found otherwise, and i hope that i've helped others similarly. Kenneth Thompson Moline Acres (north StLouis County) MO ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ

Dear group, I have entered a few hundred photos on findagrave.com and if you were the original contributor, whether it be for information or photos, you can change your information. All you have to do is click on the photo you submitted, it comes up and then there is a "delete this photo" option. It's as simple as that. I love findagrave.com and they are a very helpful and useful website. Granted, they might have their problems, but so does every other website I've used. To try and give them a bad name in order to promote your own website isn't a very nice thing to do. There's plenty of room and plenty of information for all of us to enter to be able to utilize any and all websites available, whether it be for Kansas, New York, or the world. . Melissa Kansas City, KS keukakid16522@pngusa.net wrote: David & others, thank you for the insight into Find-A-Grave. I mentioned to another researcher I was working with on a mutual family that I had some cemetery photos. She asked me if I would consider putting them on Find-A-Grave. Granted you do need to use a pass word each time you visit. I'm sure this prevents anyone arbitrarily entering information without contacting the person whom uploaded the information. Of course, that doesn't prevent the original uploader from entering the wrong information, but as Dorothy pointed out, you can contact that person. I do find it cumbersome to use, but have added some 100+ photos over the last few weeks with many more to go. I didn't realize I couldn't go back and change them as necessary. I just became aware of the nygravestones.org site and will look onto that venue as a way of giving researchers information, and it may work even better. Bruce > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:07:34 -0700 > From: "W. David Samuelsen" > Subject: [NYCHENAN] dark secret about findagrave.com > To: Chenango Co NY > Message-ID: <475BB056.7030008@sampubco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > There is a dark secret about findagrave.com > > I found out from a group who tried to replace lousy photos with better > photos. I still have that message informing me of the problem. > > Findagrave.com will not allow it. Not at all. > > Not even to update the information already there. Like replacing the > incomplete dates with complete dates. > > newyorkgravestones.org allow it - just contact the administrator direct > and the photo will be replaced, no question asked. Even to add new > updated information. > > Better features are at newyorkgravestones site - quick searches and > locating specific information in different ways. > > Even to find a married daughter whose married name is not known to you. > Searches are available in different ways. > > Findagrave.com is more on data rather than photos. NewYorkgravestones > has BOTH, every time. > > W. David Samuelsen, > New York Gravestone Photo Project > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 05:52:21 -0800 (PST) > From: dorothy baker > Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] dark secret about findagrave.com > To: nychenan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <747298.22940.qm@web56607.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Not completely true. I cannot "replace someone else's information with > correct information", but I can contact the originator of the information > and he/she can correct it. I've done it with my own stuff when I finally > came up with a complete date, and I have contacted an originator and it is > up to them to fix it. As for pictures--I don't know--I am not computer > literate enough to know how to send one, but I'll learn one of these days. > > Dorothy > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:20:48 -0500 > From: "calamityjane" > Subject: [NYCHENAN] dark secrets findagrave > To: > Message-ID: <000a01c83a98$9bac27d0$fe85f640@TheGrove> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Findagrave: I'd like to let people know that you can not always trust > what you see there. Several months ago I found a listing for a young > man in my family who was Alive and Well. > I tried to contact the person who put the information there but the > email came back saying it was an invalid address. > I did not consider it funny, nor did the young man who it was about. > evelyn > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:05:55 -0800 (PST) > From: dorothy baker > Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] dark secrets findagrave > To: nychenan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <344140.87381.qm@web56609.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Evelyn: > > Oh, I daresay that is not funny, but sounds to me like the person that > put it on thought it was hilarious, and a joke. This could happen on > any site--rootsweb, ancestry, you name it--we are all at the mercy of > someone putting information on line. Hopefully I have not done anything > to make someone mad at me. > > Dorothy > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

David & others, thank you for the insight into Find-A-Grave. I mentioned to another researcher I was working with on a mutual family that I had some cemetery photos. She asked me if I would consider putting them on Find-A-Grave. Granted you do need to use a pass word each time you visit. I'm sure this prevents anyone arbitrarily entering information without contacting the person whom uploaded the information. Of course, that doesn't prevent the original uploader from entering the wrong information, but as Dorothy pointed out, you can contact that person. I do find it cumbersome to use, but have added some 100+ photos over the last few weeks with many more to go. I didn't realize I couldn't go back and change them as necessary. I just became aware of the nygravestones.org site and will look onto that venue as a way of giving researchers information, and it may work even better. Bruce > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2007 02:07:34 -0700 > From: "W. David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> > Subject: [NYCHENAN] dark secret about findagrave.com > To: Chenango Co NY <NYCHENAN@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <475BB056.7030008@sampubco.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > There is a dark secret about findagrave.com > > I found out from a group who tried to replace lousy photos with better > photos. I still have that message informing me of the problem. > > Findagrave.com will not allow it. Not at all. > > Not even to update the information already there. Like replacing the > incomplete dates with complete dates. > > newyorkgravestones.org allow it - just contact the administrator direct > and the photo will be replaced, no question asked. Even to add new > updated information. > > Better features are at newyorkgravestones site - quick searches and > locating specific information in different ways. > > Even to find a married daughter whose married name is not known to you. > Searches are available in different ways. > > Findagrave.com is more on data rather than photos. NewYorkgravestones > has BOTH, every time. > > W. David Samuelsen, > New York Gravestone Photo Project > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 05:52:21 -0800 (PST) > From: dorothy baker <dedor7020@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] dark secret about findagrave.com > To: nychenan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <747298.22940.qm@web56607.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Not completely true. I cannot "replace someone else's information with > correct information", but I can contact the originator of the information > and he/she can correct it. I've done it with my own stuff when I finally > came up with a complete date, and I have contacted an originator and it is > up to them to fix it. As for pictures--I don't know--I am not computer > literate enough to know how to send one, but I'll learn one of these days. > > Dorothy > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:20:48 -0500 > From: "calamityjane" <thegrove131@pronetisp.net> > Subject: [NYCHENAN] dark secrets findagrave > To: <nychenan-l@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000a01c83a98$9bac27d0$fe85f640@TheGrove> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" > > Findagrave: I'd like to let people know that you can not always trust > what you see there. Several months ago I found a listing for a young > man in my family who was Alive and Well. > I tried to contact the person who put the information there but the > email came back saying it was an invalid address. > I did not consider it funny, nor did the young man who it was about. > evelyn > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 15:05:55 -0800 (PST) > From: dorothy baker <dedor7020@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] dark secrets findagrave > To: nychenan@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <344140.87381.qm@web56609.mail.re3.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Evelyn: > > Oh, I daresay that is not funny, but sounds to me like the person that > put it on thought it was hilarious, and a joke. This could happen on > any site--rootsweb, ancestry, you name it--we are all at the mercy of > someone putting information on line. Hopefully I have not done anything > to make someone mad at me. > > Dorothy > >