Hello all: Does anyone have a copy of the following pamphlet: Records and recollections of Leona Bagg : a history of South New Berlin, Holmesville, and Great Brook I've found online a copy in Texas and Indiana... wondering if anyone has one in their possession they would copy or if there is a copy on line. Thanks, Ken Brown Dyer, Phillips, Vail, Southard, Smith, Vermilye, Chenango County 1790 - 1850

Thank you Marilyn -- I agree with your suggestion. Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marilyn Bess" <oldcountrybarn@verizon.net> To: <nychenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:23 PM Subject: [NYCHENAN] Post > First, Tim is the Administrator of this and several other lists. I am > also Administrator of about 30 list. Now some administrators and lists > are > more relaxed. I allow posts as long as they are reasonable and never had > to > put a list on moderation. I can tell you that this type of post is > infrequent and I have never seen it carried this far. Secondly when > responding only the post that you are reply show be left. I would also > suggest at this point that the discussion be continued with Tim and off > line. Marilyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith Freels" <j_freels2008@yahoo.com> > To: <nychenan@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor > > > Who is the Administator for the site? > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 4336 (20090814) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > >

No Tim. Don't let a couple of people that don't know about this list ruin it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <nychenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 7:18 PM Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] Post > At 05:23 PM 8/10/2009, Marilyn Bess: >>First, Tim is the Administrator of this and several other lists. I am >>also Administrator of about 30 list. Now some administrators and lists >>are >>more relaxed. > > Yes, I am too. I don't post things lightly. > >>I allow posts as long as they are reasonable and never had to >>put a list on moderation. I can tell you that this type of post is >>infrequent and I have never seen it carried this far. Secondly when >>responding only the post that you are reply show be left. > > What she is saying is only quote the post you are replying to instead > of the whole string of previous messages which is good netiquette. > >>I would also >>suggest at this point that the discussion be continued with Tim and off >>line. Marilyn > > I think you mean off list? > > And if some wish to discuss this off list so we won't bother those who > are not so inclined please feel free to write me. > > Back to sleep dear list. > > Tim > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Everyone, read this link below! Thank you Tim. My posting a day or so ago about your potential blog was a bit tongue in cheek with the hope that you might post it for everyone. Glad to have this!!!! Good luck!!! Debbie Zorach On 10-Aug-09, at 6:42 PM, Tim Stowell wrote: > At 04:22 PM 8/10/2009, Elaine Decker: >> Tim is. He is the one that adopted the little girl. > > A slight correction. My wife and I did adopt an 8 year old girl. > > We did not adopt the 4 year old girl that was the subject of my > post. However, had we, I would have hoped to have received > a better reaction than I did. For the most part I have. > > Some folks elsewhere, either did not read the entire posts or > URLs or have been driven by fear of the way things used to be or > ignorance of the way things are. > > I don't know why discrimination is still ok with some. > > Before I posted there had not been a single list member post > to the list in 14 days. > > I suppose it's time to let the list go back to sleep, just like the > dead ancestors. > > Tim Stowell > http://becomingbaba.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 05:23 PM 8/10/2009, Marilyn Bess: >First, Tim is the Administrator of this and several other lists. I am >also Administrator of about 30 list. Now some administrators and lists are >more relaxed. Yes, I am too. I don't post things lightly. >I allow posts as long as they are reasonable and never had to >put a list on moderation. I can tell you that this type of post is >infrequent and I have never seen it carried this far. Secondly when >responding only the post that you are reply show be left. What she is saying is only quote the post you are replying to instead of the whole string of previous messages which is good netiquette. >I would also >suggest at this point that the discussion be continued with Tim and off >line. Marilyn I think you mean off list? And if some wish to discuss this off list so we won't bother those who are not so inclined please feel free to write me. Back to sleep dear list. Tim

At 04:22 PM 8/10/2009, Elaine Decker: >Tim is. He is the one that adopted the little girl. A slight correction. My wife and I did adopt an 8 year old girl. We did not adopt the 4 year old girl that was the subject of my post. However, had we, I would have hoped to have received a better reaction than I did. For the most part I have. Some folks elsewhere, either did not read the entire posts or URLs or have been driven by fear of the way things used to be or ignorance of the way things are. I don't know why discrimination is still ok with some. Before I posted there had not been a single list member post to the list in 14 days. I suppose it's time to let the list go back to sleep, just like the dead ancestors. Tim Stowell http://becomingbaba.blogspot.com/

First, Tim is the Administrator of this and several other lists. I am also Administrator of about 30 list. Now some administrators and lists are more relaxed. I allow posts as long as they are reasonable and never had to put a list on moderation. I can tell you that this type of post is infrequent and I have never seen it carried this far. Secondly when responding only the post that you are reply show be left. I would also suggest at this point that the discussion be continued with Tim and off line. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Freels" <j_freels2008@yahoo.com> To: <nychenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor Who is the Administator for the site?

Tim is. He is the one that adopted the little girl. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Freels" <j_freels2008@yahoo.com> To: <nychenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor Who is the Administator for the site? --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Elaine Decker <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> wrote: From: Elaine Decker <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 12:00 AM Judy, Are you new to this list? I think you must be or you wouldn't say that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Freels" <j_freels2008@yahoo.com> To: <nychenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor I am a nurse and I am in full agreement with Sharie. Is this what we should be doing on a geneology site? Can you please email each other personally? Peace be with you, Judy --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Sharie <kinhistorian@camtel.net> wrote: From: Sharie <kinhistorian@camtel.net> Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 1:55 PM I hate to be the bad guy in this discussion, and as much as I sympathize with the people and the child, I have to side with the CDC. The airplane ride from China to here is a lengthy one. This is a very small child. Children are children. I would be concerned about her keeping that mask on for that whole period of time. Children don't always do what they are told. My husband has Addison's disease. He has next to no immune system. He cannot catch a cold let alone be exposed to a life threatening disease. There may be other people on the plane whose immune system is not good. Could she be brought to the U.S. on a cruise where she could be isolated to a cabin? Have they tried a different mode of transportation where she wouldn't be in close contact with other people? And then there is their arrival in the U.S. Are the parents going to keep her isolated? There are reasons for these laws and unfortunately sometimes someone we know gets caught up on the negative side. Instead of fighting with the CDC, they should try working with the CDC and see if there is another way. Sorry if I ruffled feathers. Sharie Moss Bluff, LA -----Original Message----- From: nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Stowell Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:11 AM To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor At 08:12 AM 8/9/2009, dorothy baker: >I understand the need for this, and am in favor of what you wish to >do, but I have always been led to believe that the government does >not accept e-mail petitions. Am I right? Dorothy I don't know. I do know that there are many things the government is changing policy on because our society is changing so rapidly that they have to adapt because our society is demanding it. I believe the new administration is very open to what can be accomplished with the Internet and fully understands its power. A slight update is that the family is being interviewed by the Washington Post today, so at least some of the big news organizations are catching wind of this story for beyond TB, it is a story of fairness, discrimination towards the least of us - children. Tim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Who is the Administator for the site? --- On Mon, 8/10/09, Elaine Decker <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> wrote: From: Elaine Decker <elainedecker@frontiernet.net> Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 12:00 AM Judy, Are you new to this list?  I think you must be or you wouldn't say that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Freels" <j_freels2008@yahoo.com> To: <nychenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor I am a nurse and I am in full agreement with Sharie. Is this what we should be doing on a geneology site? Can you please email each other personally? Peace be with you, Judy --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Sharie <kinhistorian@camtel.net> wrote: From: Sharie <kinhistorian@camtel.net> Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 1:55 PM I hate to be the bad guy in this discussion, and as much as I sympathize with the people and the child, I have to side with the CDC. The airplane ride from China to here is a lengthy one. This is a very small child. Children are children. I would be concerned about her keeping that mask on for that whole period of time. Children don't always do what they are told. My husband has Addison's disease. He has next to no immune system. He cannot catch a cold let alone be exposed to a life threatening disease. There may be other people on the plane whose immune system is not good. Could she be brought to the U.S. on a cruise where she could be isolated to a cabin? Have they tried a different mode of transportation where she wouldn't be in close contact with other people? And then there is their arrival in the U.S. Are the parents going to keep her isolated? There are reasons for these laws and unfortunately sometimes someone we know gets caught up on the negative side. Instead of fighting with the CDC, they should try working with the CDC and see if there is another way. Sorry if I ruffled feathers. Sharie Moss Bluff, LA -----Original Message----- From: nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Stowell Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:11 AM To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor At 08:12 AM 8/9/2009, dorothy baker: >I understand the need for this, and am in favor of what you wish to >do, but I have always been led to believe that the government does >not accept e-mail petitions. Am I right? Dorothy I don't know. I do know that there are many things the government is changing policy on because our society is changing so rapidly that they have to adapt because our society is demanding it. I believe the new administration is very open to what can be accomplished with the Internet and fully understands its power. A slight update is that the family is being interviewed by the Washington Post today, so at least some of the big news organizations are catching wind of this story for beyond TB, it is a story of fairness, discrimination towards the least of us - children. Tim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sharie and Judith, At 09:55 AM 8/9/2009, Sharie: >I hate to be the bad guy in this discussion, and as much as I >sympathize with the people and the child, I have to side with the >CDC. I too would side with the CDC, if I did not know the facts and/or it was an adult. There are two issues here - - adopted children are held to a different standard than any other immigrant. Had this couple been in China, had this child as their natural child - even if she had TB, they would be allowed to bring her back to this country no questions asked. The FACE Act would give adopted children immediate citizenship. - the status of TB in this particular child as relates to the CDC's rules: in a conference call on the 7th between the CDC, various other agencies: "During the call, the CDC asked a renowned expert to discuss the issue (Dr. Jeffrey R. Starke, M.D., FAAP of the Texas Childrens Hospital), who immediately and definitively stated that there were only 2 reported cases in the world of a child having been known to transmit TB and that he could comfortably state that more than 99% of children with active TB are not contagious." Despite that evidence the CDC would not relent, thus it is a government agency who has no heart, can only quote their own rules and citizens are just out of luck in trying to get the CDC to relent. So other efforts to secure this child's release are ongoing - news media, persons at all other levels of government are being contacted. >The airplane ride from China to here is a lengthy one. This is a >very small child. Children are children. I would be concerned about >her keeping that mask on for that whole period of time. Children >don't always do what they are told. > >Could she be brought to the U.S. on a cruise where she could be >isolated to a cabin? Have they tried a different mode of >transportation where she wouldn't be in close contact with other >people? The CDC will not issue the visa to let her in the country, no matter what method of transport home. I have to wonder if some other country in our hemisphere would take her in - Canada, for the closeness or Cuba, for the embarrassment for I have no love for arrogant government officials. >And then there is their arrival in the U.S. Are the parents going to >keep her isolated? I suspect they would seek whatever medical treatment is necessary. They are parents of another child and I see no reason why they would not. Of my soapbox as well Phebe, Tim

At 07:29 PM 8/9/2009, Deborah Zorach: >Thank you, Rene. Maybe Tim will start a blog sometime about his >passion for adoption. I'm sure many of us would enjoy that. Now, Deborah that's not fair. You know I already do have such. Tim

Thank you, Rene. Maybe Tim will start a blog sometime about his passion for adoption. I'm sure many of us would enjoy that. Aug 9, 2009 07:06:21 PM, Tree-Digger@stny.rr.com wrote: =========================================== Tim is our list dad, and if he feels that this is appropriate, then it is. Genealogy is about all aspects of family history and immigration current, past and future. Don't mean to offend, but if a topic isn't to anyone's liking, then use the delete key. Rene' nydelaware list mom ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I agree completely and thank you, Rene, for your very fine response. Linda in Texas -----Original Message----- From: nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tree-Digger Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 6:04 PM To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor - genealogy - past,present and future - delete key Tim is our list dad, and if he feels that this is appropriate, then it is. Genealogy is about all aspects of family history and immigration current, past and future. Don't mean to offend, but if a topic isn't to anyone's liking, then use the delete key. Rene' nydelaware list mom ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Judy, Are you new to this list? I think you must be or you wouldn't say that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Freels" <j_freels2008@yahoo.com> To: <nychenan@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor I am a nurse and I am in full agreement with Sharie. Is this what we should be doing on a geneology site? Can you please email each other personally? Peace be with you, Judy --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Sharie <kinhistorian@camtel.net> wrote: From: Sharie <kinhistorian@camtel.net> Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 1:55 PM I hate to be the bad guy in this discussion, and as much as I sympathize with the people and the child, I have to side with the CDC. The airplane ride from China to here is a lengthy one. This is a very small child. Children are children. I would be concerned about her keeping that mask on for that whole period of time. Children don't always do what they are told. My husband has Addison's disease. He has next to no immune system. He cannot catch a cold let alone be exposed to a life threatening disease. There may be other people on the plane whose immune system is not good. Could she be brought to the U.S. on a cruise where she could be isolated to a cabin? Have they tried a different mode of transportation where she wouldn't be in close contact with other people? And then there is their arrival in the U.S. Are the parents going to keep her isolated? There are reasons for these laws and unfortunately sometimes someone we know gets caught up on the negative side. Instead of fighting with the CDC, they should try working with the CDC and see if there is another way. Sorry if I ruffled feathers. Sharie Moss Bluff, LA -----Original Message----- From: nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Stowell Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:11 AM To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor At 08:12 AM 8/9/2009, dorothy baker: >I understand the need for this, and am in favor of what you wish to >do, but I have always been led to believe that the government does >not accept e-mail petitions. Am I right? Dorothy I don't know. I do know that there are many things the government is changing policy on because our society is changing so rapidly that they have to adapt because our society is demanding it. I believe the new administration is very open to what can be accomplished with the Internet and fully understands its power. A slight update is that the family is being interviewed by the Washington Post today, so at least some of the big news organizations are catching wind of this story for beyond TB, it is a story of fairness, discrimination towards the least of us - children. Tim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tim is our list dad, and if he feels that this is appropriate, then it is. Genealogy is about all aspects of family history and immigration current, past and future. Don't mean to offend, but if a topic isn't to anyone's liking, then use the delete key. Rene' nydelaware list mom

I am a nurse and I am in full agreement with Sharie.  Is this what we should be doing on a geneology site?  Can you please email each other personally? Peace be with you, Judy --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Sharie <kinhistorian@camtel.net> wrote: From: Sharie <kinhistorian@camtel.net> Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 1:55 PM I hate to be the bad guy in this discussion, and as much as I sympathize with the people and the child, I have to side with the CDC. The airplane ride from China to here is a lengthy one.  This is a very small child.  Children are children.  I would be concerned about her keeping that mask on for that whole period of time.  Children don't always do what they are told.  My husband has Addison's disease. He has next to no immune system.  He cannot catch a cold let alone be exposed to a life threatening disease.  There may be other people on the plane whose immune system is not good. Could she be brought to the U.S. on a cruise where she could be isolated to a cabin?  Have they tried a different mode of transportation where she wouldn't be in close contact with other people?  And then there is their arrival in the U.S.  Are the parents going to keep her isolated?  There are reasons for these laws and unfortunately sometimes someone we know gets caught up on the negative side.  Instead of fighting with the CDC, they should try working with the CDC and see if there is another way.  Sorry if I ruffled feathers. Sharie Moss Bluff, LA  -----Original Message----- From: nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Stowell Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:11 AM To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor At 08:12 AM 8/9/2009, dorothy baker: >I understand the need for this, and am in favor of what you wish to >do, but I have always been led to believe that the government does >not accept e-mail petitions.  Am I right?  Dorothy I don't know.   I do know that there are many things the government is changing policy on because our society is changing so rapidly that they have to adapt because our society is demanding it. I believe the new administration is very open to what can be accomplished with the Internet and fully understands its power. A slight update is that the family is being interviewed by the Washington Post today, so at least some of the big news organizations are catching wind of this story for beyond TB, it is a story of fairness, discrimination towards the least of us - children. Tim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Wow... I also scrolled through a few of their entries and watched their video in which they had to leave her there while they went back to the US. Heartbreaking... Particularly at the end when she's crying "Baba, don't leave..." Let us know when they are finally able to bring her back to the States. Noi On Aug 9, 2009, at 6:02 AM, Timothy Stowell wrote: > As many or most of you know my wife and I adopted a girl from China > in March, 2008. She became a citizen of the United States the moment > her feet touched American soil in the airport in Chicago and her > passport was stamped with the appropriate stamp. She also gained the > rights due any other American citizen including the right to inherit > property just as any natural born children would gain by right of > birth. > > Thus adoption of children has become my passion. > > This week I was made aware of a situation, that we too could have > faced, but fortunately did not, nevertheless I wish to assist this > family in any way possible. > > An American couple adopted a little 4 year old from China on the 28th > of July. At that point they became her legal parents. After that > one has to go to the local approved health agency for a medical exam > to make sure they can come to the United States. When they went, the > little girl tested positive for TB. > > Under new rules put in place by the CDC on July 1st, all children > 2-14, wishing to come to the United States, have to be tested for TB. > The problem with this is, if the child tests positive, they have to > stay in the country they were adopted in, for some unknown time until > the CDC approves their immigration. So on Friday, this couple had to > leave their new daughter behind in China, while they came home. She > will not be able to enter the US for a period which could be from 2 > to 6 months. > > If you wish to see public enemy number 1 - > http://jayscruggs.livejournal.com/2009/08/06/ > > You can then scroll down to read more or click on the calendar in the > right side to see backward in their story or on the 8th for the > latest action plan to bring their daughter home. > > The favor I ask is that you read / sign this petition and pass along > either the link to the petition to or this entire note. > http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/build-families-not-barriers.html > > Sincerely, > > Tim Stowell > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

At 08:12 AM 8/9/2009, dorothy baker: >I understand the need for this, and am in favor of what you wish to >do, but I have always been led to believe that the government does >not accept e-mail petitions. Am I right? Dorothy I don't know. I do know that there are many things the government is changing policy on because our society is changing so rapidly that they have to adapt because our society is demanding it. I believe the new administration is very open to what can be accomplished with the Internet and fully understands its power. A slight update is that the family is being interviewed by the Washington Post today, so at least some of the big news organizations are catching wind of this story for beyond TB, it is a story of fairness, discrimination towards the least of us - children. Tim

I hate to be the bad guy in this discussion, and as much as I sympathize with the people and the child, I have to side with the CDC. The airplane ride from China to here is a lengthy one. This is a very small child. Children are children. I would be concerned about her keeping that mask on for that whole period of time. Children don't always do what they are told. My husband has Addison's disease. He has next to no immune system. He cannot catch a cold let alone be exposed to a life threatening disease. There may be other people on the plane whose immune system is not good. Could she be brought to the U.S. on a cruise where she could be isolated to a cabin? Have they tried a different mode of transportation where she wouldn't be in close contact with other people? And then there is their arrival in the U.S. Are the parents going to keep her isolated? There are reasons for these laws and unfortunately sometimes someone we know gets caught up on the negative side. Instead of fighting with the CDC, they should try working with the CDC and see if there is another way. Sorry if I ruffled feathers. Sharie Moss Bluff, LA -----Original Message----- From: nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:nychenan-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Stowell Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:11 AM To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor At 08:12 AM 8/9/2009, dorothy baker: >I understand the need for this, and am in favor of what you wish to >do, but I have always been led to believe that the government does >not accept e-mail petitions. Am I right? Dorothy I don't know. I do know that there are many things the government is changing policy on because our society is changing so rapidly that they have to adapt because our society is demanding it. I believe the new administration is very open to what can be accomplished with the Internet and fully understands its power. A slight update is that the family is being interviewed by the Washington Post today, so at least some of the big news organizations are catching wind of this story for beyond TB, it is a story of fairness, discrimination towards the least of us - children. Tim ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I understand the need for this, and am in favor of what you wish to do, but I have always been led to believe that the government does not accept e-mail petitions.  Am I right?  Dorothy --- On Sun, 8/9/09, Deborah Zorach <dzorach@suscom-maine.net> wrote: From: Deborah Zorach <dzorach@suscom-maine.net> Subject: Re: [NYCHENAN] I ask a favor To: nychenan@rootsweb.com Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 3:59 AM Tim, thanks for letting us help on this issue...... On 9-Aug-09, at 12:02 AM, Timothy Stowell wrote: > As many or most of you know my wife and I adopted a girl from China > in March, 2008.  She became a citizen of the United States the moment > her feet touched American soil in the airport in Chicago and her > passport was stamped with the appropriate stamp.  She also gained the > rights due any other American citizen including the right to inherit > property just as any natural born children would gain by right of > birth. > > Thus adoption of children has become my passion. > > This week I was made aware of a situation, that we too could have > faced, but fortunately did not, nevertheless I wish to assist this > family in any way possible. > > An American couple adopted a little 4 year old from China on the 28th > of July.  At that point they became her legal parents.  After that > one has to go to the local approved health agency for a medical exam > to make sure they can come to the United States.  When they went, the > little girl tested positive for TB. > > Under new rules put in place by the CDC on July 1st, all children > 2-14, wishing to come to the United States, have to be tested for TB. > The problem with this is, if the child tests positive, they have to > stay in the country they were adopted in, for some unknown time until > the CDC approves their immigration. So on Friday, this couple had to > leave their new daughter behind in China, while they came home.  She > will not be able to enter the US for a period which could be from 2 > to 6 months. > > If you wish to see public enemy number 1 - > http://jayscruggs.livejournal.com/2009/08/06/ > > You can then scroll down to read more or click on the calendar in the > right side to see backward in their story or on the 8th for the > latest action plan to bring their daughter home. > > The favor I ask is that you read / sign this petition and pass along > either the link to the petition to or this entire note. > http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/build-families-not-barriers.html > > Sincerely, > > Tim Stowell > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCHENAN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message