This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/9233.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Hi Nope that is the wrong John this is B Crates, John B. 1836—1910 Emily A. 1842—1888 John V Valentine Crates is probably in Portland but is not in any records yet Dee