This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/9233.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dee Iva M. (Butts) Crates husband was John Valentine Crates NOT John C. Crates. Do not have a record of John's death. Iva was survived by a half brother, Earl Hazzard of the Town of Ellery. Loraine