This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SRB.2ACE/917.1125.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: That's OK Dee - None of US are sure about anything in this family either! LOL Actually I'd never heard of them until I found Mary Ann Cowden's photo and started digging. What with Uncle Charley and all the moving around this crowd did, there may be more skeletons in the closet we haven't found yet. My grandmother sure wasn't forthcoming about Charley, and she obviously knew him before he died. Could be the whole crowd was a little 'strange'. So far we've conjectured that Heber was born in Princeton, MA, fought in the Rev. War, then moved to Albany NY, where he was located in 1790. (I looked at that census really closely, and I think there's an ink blot that caused whoever made the index to read the name as Haber rather than Heber). From there he shows up in Chaut. Co. NY, then the family moves to PA (OK so it's only a few miles, but why all the moving already??), and then he goes to MI. Huh? I'm from New England, and people there tend to stay put, often living in the same location most of their lives. This guy really doesn't fit the mold. I'm going after the church records next to see if I can discover more. I'm also going to dig on the other end and see if there's a connection between the NH Heber and the MA Heber. In any case you've been a tremendous help. This is like searching for a needle in a haystack - blindfolded! Thanks! Marti