This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: JOHNSON, LARSON, SWANSON, TERRILL, GINTER, PRICE, MASLACH Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12002 Message Board Post: PJ Obit 6/24/2005 Margaret E. Johnson, 91, formerly of the Hotel Jamestown Apartments, died at 9:50 a.m. Thursday (June 23, 2005) in the Heritage Park Health Care Center. An area resident most of her life, she was born March 17, 1914, in Wettmore, Pa., the daughter of Charles and Eleanor Larson. A Kane High School graduate, she had been employed as a cook by Anderson Restaurant in Falconer, where she was well known for her pies. In later years, she was employed by the Office of the Aging in the Hotel Jamestown. She was a member of Lakewood Baptist Church. She is survived by a daughter, Phyllis J. Swanson of Randolph; a son, Richard W. Johnson of Punta Gorda, Fla.; seven grandchildren: Bruce R. Johnson of Mosheim, Tenn., Brenda Terrill of Fort Meyers, Fla., Michelle Ginter of Wappingers Falls, N.Y., Kathleen Price of Haines City, Fla., Laurette Maslach of Derby, N.Y., Darryl Swanson of N. Collins, N.Y., and Duane Swanson of W. Henrietta, N.Y.; 20 great-grandchildren; and three step-great-gran! dchildren. She was preceded in death by a brother, Charles Larson. Burial will be in Sunset Hill Cemetery.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: WHITCOMB, LARSON, SLEIGH, WILSON Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12001 Message Board Post: PJ Obit 8/24/2005 William A. Whitcomb, 68, of 208 Ahrens Ave., died at 5 p.m. Monday (Aug. 22, 2005) in WCA Hospital. A lifelong area resident, he was born Jan. 30, 1937, in Jamestown, the son of the late Paul L. and Anna Larson Whitcomb. He was a 1955 graduate of Jamestown High School, and a U.S. Army veteran, serving from May 1960 until May 1962 as a radio operator for the 20th Engineer Battalion during the construction of the Berlin Wall. He was employed by the Jamestown Police Department for 22 years, retiring as a lieutenant in 1981. He had also worked for Jamestown Armored Car Service and Jamestown Distributing Co. He was a member of St. Luke's Episcopal Church where he had served as an usher for many years. He is survived by his wife, Georgiana Sleigh Whitcomb, whom he married Jan. 9, 1960; two sons: Todd A. Whitcomb of Omaha, Neb., and Kurt A. Whitcomb of Falconer; and four grandchildren. In addition to his parents, he was preceded in death by a sister, Anita Wilson, and a brother, ! Leslie ''Bud'' Whitcomb. Burial will be in Lake View Cemetery.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: RUFFINO, GRAZIANO, HAYES, TRASS, MORRELL, DROZDA, TERESI Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12000 Message Board Post: PJ Obit 8/24/2005 Sarah T. Ruffino, 96, of Tanglewood Manor and Colfax Street, died at 7:47 p.m. Monday (Aug. 22, 2005) in Tanglewood Manor. A native of Jamestown and a California resident from 1948 until 1975, she was born June 7, 1909, the daughter of Joseph and Sarah Graziano. She was the widow of Samuel Ruffino, whom she married Dec. 28, 1945, and who died July 21, 1975. She was a 1928 graduate of Jamestown High School and 1931 from Fredonia Normal School. She was employed as a teacher by Northside School from 1937 until 1945, Charles Street School from 1945 until 1948 and in Pasadena, Calif. from 1948 until her retirement in 1975. Surviving are her nieces and nephews Jack and Ann Hayes, Joe, Alice, Mary Beth, Jerome and Amy Trass and Bob and Sara Jean Morrell. She was preceded in death by four sisters: Mary Trass on Nov. 6, 2000, Josephine Drozda, August 1997, Kate J. Teresi, 1952 and Lena Trass in 1948; and two brothers: Joseph Trass, Dec. 1, 1997 and Samuel A. Trass on March 20, 1991.! Burial will be in the Holy Sephulchre Cemetery.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11999 Message Board Post: To whomever thinks may concern them, Rootsweb does not condone personal insults or attacks. If you wish to insult another poster, email that person directly, not through this board. Thank you. Bob Sanders

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11992.1.1.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: And directed towards Dale, I see where you have provided a lot of help towards others. I hope that one day there will be a question that I have that you will be able to help me with. I also agree that depending on what and how you are researching you may find the "clutter" of the obits in the way. It appears that you are looking to help people and have your own research tools and therefore do not have a need for the obits on the boards. May I ask that you take it easy on us unexperienced researchers. Help us learn how to ask the right question. Direct us on how and where to find the right answer. It's people with experience such as yours that will, one day, help us help others. Cheers, Scott

those obits to all of us can be just the item we need to break down the brick wall that every family has.... keep them coming ... I for one am glad they are on-line and I say Thank You to the person or persons who put them on the list !!!! Mill

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11992.1.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: If I may jump into the middle of this “discussion”… I have not found it discouraging or annoying to have the copious number of obits on this board. As a matter of fact I have found it very insightful and welcoming… As someone who grew up in Chautauqua County, I have found the obits of many family members and friends “randomly” posted. It has brought a lot of unsolicited and forgotten memories of people that I have not thought of for a very long time. I wish that a lot of the other county boards had people who did the same. It also tells me, as someone who is visiting the board that there are people out there who have the knowledge, ability, and time to help me find the information that I am looking for. The one item that is sometimes missing or forgotten is to properly classify the post. If the posting is an obituary, it should be classified as such. If it is a query, it should be classified as such. It does not take very long to figure out how to narrow the board to what you are looking for. So, IMHO, Dale, if you are only looking to help people you should just be able to look at queries. For the helpful folks posting all of the obits, if you remember to properly classify the bountiful number of obits, then when we are looking for them we can see them without all of the other information…. Everyone, keep up the great work and thanks for all of the time that you spend providing us with information on family and friends. IMHO, Scott

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11992.1.1.2 Message Board Post: the person making the original complaint here about the obits posted this SAME COMPLAINT on the SAME DAY to other boards as well, he also complains about persons making queries but do NOT have all the family data HE may need to help find them, Which to me makes no sense, they give birth dates etc but I think if they had more data to GIVE they would not ASK in the first place; I have no problem finding people they seek, nor do most of us; I have been on this mail list AND the message board since the very first day in 1999, I requested the space and started it with the very first Chautauqua CO Query and I hope I am here to post the last one, but until then, we will continue to use the space that ROOTSWEB so generously provides for the purpose intended , there used to be a site JUST FOR the OBITS, BIOS, WEDDINGS, etc now they are all one MOST this persons MANY many posts are complaints of this nature, I jsut read many of them;; we can ignore now and just get back to work; and stop wasting space, Continue the OBITS and QUERIES PLEASE Dee Davidson

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11992.1.2 Message Board Post: Laura - Thank you so much for your gracious comments on the posting of "random" obits. My lines spread far and wide, and with the "older folks" in the family gone, I often am clueless as to the names of various cousins and other relatives. This leaves me unable to proceed with research. But then, out of nowhere, I will find a "random obit" that might even come from the family my person married into, or some source like that, where I would not have had any clue to look, and that source will be just full of facts, names, etc. that open up many doors. I, for one, really appreciate these obituary postings and don't find them especially "random"!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11992.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Oops, that should read Paternal great grandmother. That's why we preview message before we post.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11992.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have nothing but good things to say about this board. First of all its free, which is a major thing. When you look at certain "other" sites concerning genealogy it is often a disapointment to find they charge a nominal fee for you to find information that, when you think about it, is rightfully yours to begin with. From the first time I posted here I've had great luck. Information on my maternal great grandmother was found for me, when I had no were to turn. Just last week I found a whole thread on my maternal great grandfathers lineage (on his mother side) by simply inputting his last name into the search box! Every little post with every little name helps. It makes the chances that people will find what they are looking for improve, and it saves a little time on the researchers part, if a person is able to find the information without submitting a query. I say keep it up and I have a question. Can I also add Obits from my own records on my family? I might be able to help someone out myself, and the would be awesome.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11994.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I was disapointed a bit by Lakeview when I went back home for a visit in 2003. I was able to find the grave of my paternal grandmother. But when we tried to find the graves of my maternal great grandparents we weren't able to locate them. We went to the office and the guy found them in the database and circled them on the map, but we still couldn't find them. Not to mention we waited outside the door for nearly an hour because no one was in the office! It was the middle of the day on a weekday, someone should have been there. I hope you have better luck than I did.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11992.1.1 Message Board Post: Every once in a while this board/mailing list, like any other, comes in contact with a person with a 'sour grapes' attitude. It is inevitable! Everyone is encouraged to post their items to the message board so it may help others and prevent multiple look up requests on the same person/family. In turn, it is automatically sent to the mailing list along with emails sent only to the list. This adds up for everyone who subscribes. Personally speaking; I am a webmaster who offers free look ups along with my own research, research I do for others, & regular emails. I get hundreds of emails daily. Still, I have yet to see a group such as this message board/mailing list that is so helpful and accessible. I truly believe it is worth a few extra emails! The best way not to get flooded with emails is to either subscribe to the digest version of the mailing list or not subscribe to the list at all. Instead, search the message boards often. This board/mailing list has been around for some time now. The majority of helpers & viewers are extremely happy with the way it is run. I'm sure one (or more) grouchy human being will not prevent us from continuing to be such a wonderful and productive group! No matter what you do or where you go, you can't make everyone happy all of the time. All you can do is do your best (and I don't think posting complaints is the best a person can do)!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/3300.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Yes, I know my Nicholas m Louisa, yet I believe he was married before her. How did you know his death info. Other then the family bible, I have not found any death records, obit ect... Thanks

Howdy, Try calling the Lakeview cemetery. All their records are indexed on a PC. Be specific. Introduce yourself as a family researcher. Establish yourself, Don't overwhelm them with too many requests. Enjoy and bask in a successful research quest. Lake View Cemetery Assn (716) 665-3206  907 Lakeview Ave Jamestown, NY H Trump

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11908.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you so much for attempting to get this picture for those of us in Iowa interested in John J. Oakley. Ever so grateful the stones were recorded and the transcriptions made available on line. At least we know where he rests.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11992.1 Message Board Post: Dale, you raise a good point, but on balance, it is far better for us to have too many postings than too little. I have a different viewpoint on this, based on from my own personal perspective and many others' perspectives, since I coordinate a volunteer effort on a different board. Actually - posting so many obits increases the odds of many more people finding information about family members they would never think of making a request for. Most people aren't going to be making a request for obits of their 2675 favorite family members - and many can't specify a year or place of death to make a request in the first place. Frequently, because other surnames may be mentioned in the obits, people discover a name they have been researching for many years. I wish I could tell you how many family members I've stumbled upon when doing a search because someone took the time to post an obit that stays on the board forever, available to me and others years from now. The Cattaraugus county board volunteer team also posts many obits, and it is sometimes stunning to see how many emails come in from folks so excited to find a family member "hiding" within one of those postings - often one they have spent 20 years trying to find. These boards are specifically for researchers to exchange information with other researchers - and obits, bios, and other such documents are the best way to do this. From the feedback I've gotten from many - posting random obits has proved to be one of the most successful avenues for finding family history. Limiting the posting of information to be only in response to a specific request would severely curtail the odds of other researchers finding their own family history. In our experience, when random obits and bios are posted, it stimulates even more queries on our board - which gives people like you who are so kindly willing to help other researchers more chances of doing just that.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11908.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Karen, I went to the Hollenbeck Cemetery yesterday. There is a large memorial stone there which says "in memory of the following families whose loved ones sleep beneath these hallowed grounds" Then it lists the familes, and Oakley is one of the names. On the back of the stone it says, "Memorial placed by the Township of Ellicott on Feb 8, 1996 to replace the original 19th century gravestones that were stolen July 1995" All that is left are bases of stones, and two taller monuments for the Hollenbeck family and the Wellington family. It is so sad. I'm sorry that I won't be able to get your picture. Beckie

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Dean, Sigular, Bush, Pratt, Hall, Raynor, Wallace, Card, Seekings, Kennedy,Martin, Harrier, Lampman, Miller Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11998 Message Board Post: PJ: Tues. 5/10/2005: Helen L. Dean, 74, of 414 Winsor St., died at 10:10 p.m. Sunday May 8, 2005, in the Heritage Green Health Care Center. A lifelong area resident, she was born April 19, 1931, in Jamestown, the daughter of John and Helen Sigular Bush. In earlier years, she had been an aide for several area nursing homes. An avid pool player for 26 years, she and her women’s pool league team had once attended a national pool tournament in Las Vegas. Helen also greatly enjoyed bingo. She will be sadly missed by her companion Ralph Pratt’s five children: Ralph III, Tina, and Donald Pratt, Ethel Hall and Patricia Raynor; and a sister, Delores Wallace. Surviving are five daughters: Gloria Card of West Ellicott, Debbie Dean of Jamestown, and Donna Seekings, Linda Fraley and Cathy Kennedy, all of Sherman; a son, Ronald Dean of Sharon, Pa.; 25 grandchildren; 47 great-grandchildren; two sisters: Beverly Martin and Susan Harrier, both of Jamestown; a brother, John Bush of Jamestown; and her companion of 25 years, Ralph R. Pratt Jr. of Jamestown. She was preceded in death by her husband, Albert J. Dean, who died in February 1980; a son Stephen W. Dean, who died April 28, 2005; three great-grandchildren; and three sisters: Janice Bush, Delores Lampman and Loretta Miller. Burial will be in Lake View Cemetery.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Brown, Solly, Boteilho, Reigle, Weiss, Zimmer, Smith, Lester Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/11997 Message Board Post: PJ: Tues. 4/26/2005: Howard P. “Brownie” Brown, Bemus Point, N.Y., April 24, 2005. Beloved Husband of Betty (nee Solly) Brown. Dearest father of David (Mary) Sandra (Elroy) Boteilho, Donna Browne and Edward (Ann). Loving grandfather of Myriah, Courtnay, Clare, Joshua, Jillian and Nicholas. Brother of Laura Reigle, David, Dorothy Weiss, Mary Ellen Zimmer, Charles, Jack, George “Mike”, and the late Maxine Smith, Brother-in-law of Robert (the late Ethel) Lester. Also survived by nieces and nephews. Family will be present to receive friends Wednesday from 2-4 and 7-9 p.m. at the (Hamburg Chapel) John J. Kaczor Funeral Home, Inc., 5453 Southwestern Blvd., where prayers will be siad Thursday morning at 11:00 followed by a Mass of Christian Burial at Our Mother of Good Counsel Church at 11:45. Mr. Brown was a member of I.B.E.W. Local #41.