This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/2243.2794.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: I have a 1920 census for Buena Vista Township, Portage Co., Wisconsin showing Jacob and Mary Ciesielski age 77 and 70 respectively. Is your source also the census? If so, there may indeed be two Jacob Ciesielskis and mine was not the one who purchased land in IL.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/2243.2794.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Jacob Ciesielski is in Washington Co IL in 1920 age 85 wife is spelled MICHELINA b Poland ae 80 they both came 1870 were naturalized in 1875 neither can read or write Do not place much stock in finding a birth certificate for the Pearl ;

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ciesielski Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/2243.2794.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you for the info. I am looking to obtain a copy of Pearl's birth certificate from NY. And I also found a Jacob Ciesielski who purchased land in Washington Co, IL in 1883 but cannot confirm that this is the same Jacob Ciesielski. Do you have any information or suggestions on either?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12148.1.1 Message Board Post: Thank you Sue, I'll call Michelle. Hal

You can also search for wills at sampubco.com. On 30 Nov 2005 18:48:13 -0700 hhileman@frontiernet.net wrote: >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this >mailing list. > >Surnames: Robbins, Standish, Sprague >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12148 > >Message Board Post: > >I am trying to find any will or land records for John >Robbins or Betty Standish Robbins who lived and died in >Pomfret, Chautauqua County, NY, from 1830 until their >death c1850-1860. > >I have visted the Day Library and the collections of the >Chautauqua County Historical Society located in the Day >Library. Can anybody give me a suggestion as to where I >might look next for Birth, Death, Will and Real Estate >transaction records other than the Day Library? I have >been told that NY records from this era are hard to find. > >Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > >Thanks, > >Hal Hileman > > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your >ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi Hal, The types of records you are looking for are official records and held in various locations. Land Records, Deeds, Grantor/Grantee Indexes and Mortgages, Mortgagor/Mortgagee Indexes are held in the County Clerk's Office. Wills, Administrations and Guardianships are held in the County Surrogate's Court. Those are both open records indexes and the public has free access to the indexes. Vital Records or Births, Deaths and Marriages are governed by law under the Department of Health, Division of Vital Statistics. The Indexes on microfiche are located at Albany in the State Archives Office, and in the Syracuse, Rochester and Buffalo Libraries, and also a set at the NY City Branch of the National Archives, and are used with strict regulations. Once you find the item you are looking for, and they are cataloged by year/alpha, you have the choice to either order a copy from Albany or go the the Town or City Clerk where the event took place and attempt to get a copy there. It is usually easier and faster to get it locally, Albany is usually backed up several months. I have some papers on the subject on my website under Basic Genealogy and under Land Records, they might also help you. Good luck and have fun. Dick Hillenbrand On 30 Nov 2005 18:48:13 -0700, hhileman@frontiernet.net < hhileman@frontiernet.net> wrote: > > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Robbins, Standish, Sprague > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12148 > > Message Board Post: > > I am trying to find any will or land records for John Robbins or Betty > Standish Robbins who lived and died in Pomfret, Chautauqua County, NY, from > 1830 until their death c1850-1860. > > I have visted the Day Library and the collections of the Chautauqua County > Historical Society located in the Day Library. Can anybody give me a > suggestion as to where I might look next for Birth, Death, Will and Real > Estate transaction records other than the Day Library? I have been told that > NY records from this era are hard to find. > > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > Hal Hileman > > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > -- Dick Hillenbrand Upstate New York Genealogy (UNYG) website: http://www.ny-genes.com blog: http://ny-genes.blogspot.com/

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12148.1 Message Board Post: contacyt micnelle henry in mayville,ny ask the county clerk in mayville

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Robbins, Standish, Sprague Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12148 Message Board Post: I am trying to find any will or land records for John Robbins or Betty Standish Robbins who lived and died in Pomfret, Chautauqua County, NY, from 1830 until their death c1850-1860. I have visted the Day Library and the collections of the Chautauqua County Historical Society located in the Day Library. Can anybody give me a suggestion as to where I might look next for Birth, Death, Will and Real Estate transaction records other than the Day Library? I have been told that NY records from this era are hard to find. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Hal Hileman

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/2243.2794.1 Message Board Post: Hi There is no trace of the Ciesielski family here, and your ALEX was born in Wisconsin, is there with Pearl in 1920 census with their kids; Wisconsin > Portage > Grant > District 67 Pearl stated she was b NY parents Polish b Germany but they may have just been passing thru here to get to WI and did not get involved in any census data here; in 1920 Alex and Pearl are both 33 HIS folks bv Germany are Polish also; Pearls family name is 3 pages of Census in WI 1920 in the same county Jacob Ciesielski Age: 77 years Estimated birth year: abt 1843 Birthplace: Germany;Poland Race: White Home in 1920: Buena Vista, Portage, Wisconsin Home owned: Own Sex: Male Marital status: Married to MARY and several next door also

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12147 Message Board Post: iam lookin gfor info on the JOHN AN ROWENA_____ HILL FMLY. THEY WERE THE PARENTS OF A [DR] CHARLES HILL. i belive they lived in mayville new york.he was born abt 1809. in oct.6.1831 charles hill married mary ann wheeler in wfd, by chas.p. young. mary ann[marion] hill died in centerville pa in 1861. i would like to know where this charles hill died an where was he buried. thanks corky wheeler

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Ciesielski, Shulfer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/2243.2794 Message Board Post: Hello, I have some information on Ciesielski family and am seeking much more. I have a copy of the ships manifest for Jacob and Marianne Ciesielski and infant daughter Mary arriving in 1872. I understand they then resided in Dunkirk although I cannot find any census records to confirm that. Jacob and Marianne's daughter Pearl married Alex Shulfer. They are my great grandparents. Would like to exchange more info.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12146.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi I am reading and I magnified this 1880 census to see what Alminas name LOOKED like it, looks to me like SANGUO She is married, age 25, dau CORA is 5 months old it seems Benjamin is 32 SINGLE also in this house several persons; a female P COLLINS cannot read her name is 20 single a WIDOW and no occupation; has a son HENRY COLLINS 4 and Frank also 5 months also is William PERCY 57 VT a boarder WIDOWER, son George PERCY 32 VT and son LEWIS PERCY 14 at school b NY In 1870 William PERCY and wife FANNY live up the rd from town of Hanover in town of EVANS< Erie Co NY Louis is then 3 George is 21 worked in the cheese factory there, others were David then 18 worked on a farm, Thomas 16 at home Emma 10 and in house is Eliza RUSSELL either 45 or 75 b VERMONT hard to decipher date probably a sister of William; I thought perhaps this would be where the PALMER kids were too but there are none there; they have vanished from 1870

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Palmer, Percy Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12146.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks Dee.. yes I have found Benjamin in the 1880 census but no Parley anywhere and it lists Almina Langus as Ben's sister.. however Langus isn't a name that is very popular and it doesn't show her husbands name.. was just wondering if whoever deciphered the census records couldn't read it very well and maybe it is a different name than Langus? Trying to find all of Ben's siblings which in turn hopefully will help me find my great great great grandmother's info. A Finies Palmer.. My grandfather Lewis Percy married Finies in between the census records of 1880 and 1900 and in 1888 she dies after giving birth to her second child, but in 1880 Lewis was living with Benjamin Palmer as a boarder with Lewis's father and sister Emma Percy Collins who later married Benjamin.. but alas no Finies living with them... a great big wheel but missing some spokes!!! Thanks for your help! Tammy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12146.1 Message Board Post: In Cherry Creek 1860 census is one PARLEY PALMER, this is the 2nd time in recent days I have run into him; He is now 33 b Vermont, wife NEOMA? is hard to read b NY ae 31 ch BENJAMIN 14, OLIVER 12, JOHN 10, CLARENCE 8 and MINNA 4 ( Almina) MARY 2 they then all vanish

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12145.1 Message Board Post: Hi In 1850 Hanover Chautauqua C NY is this family born in IRELAND except the 2 youngest J ADAMS ae 40 WIFE ANN 41ch John 14, JAMES 11 Thomas 8 ANN 3 and William 1 seems that the ANN and HARRIETS are the same gals, 2 names These Irish families are here to work on the RR for the most part, Adams James died Apr 19 1862 ae 54 buried in Forestville Pioneer cemetery photo of his stone is here; http://www.rootsweb.com/~nychauta/CEMETERY/Images/Fvillepioneer/Adams-james.jpg there is no data on where the rest are buried

Tammy, I believe the niece [daughter] is named Cora rather than Cosa. The last name Langus does seem unusual, but in 1880 there are 15 by that name and each census year after more than the preceding years. You might also look for "Langers" or 'Sangers" as in looking over the 1880 census page, many times L and S are the same or similar and there seems to be no consistency to how the enumerator formed the letters. Going back to the 1870 census there is an Almina Palmer, age 18, b. NY living in Catskill, Greene Co., NY in the family of Oliver and Henrietta Palmer. There is another Almina Palmer in Oneida Co. but she is too old, age 37 in 1870. There are four Alminas in 1900 in Chaut. Co. but none the right age. Hope this helps, Betty Malesky Member APG, NGS, NEHGS, ISFHWE, GVGS Green Valley, AZ "He alone deserves to be remembered by his children who treasures up and preserves the memory of his fathers." Edmund Burke, 1729-1797 ----- Original Message ----- From: <jtreynolds@verizon.net> To: <NYCHAUTA-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:07 PM Subject: [NYCHAUTA] Almina Langus? Maybe a different name than Langus? > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Langus/ Palmer > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12146 > > Message Board Post: > > Hi.. I have the name but no other leads..and it's not a very popular > name.. maybe someone else can decipher it differently than the census > listings online did.. it is for Almina Langus in the census record 1880 > Hanover, Chautauqua, NY she is living with Benjamin Palmer states she is > his sister and she has a daughter it says Cosa b. 1880. Any other tips or > just plain anything would help.. trying to get somewhere in a round about > way but hoping it will help! Thanks Tammy jtreynolds@verizon.net > > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Langus/ Palmer Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12146 Message Board Post: Hi.. I have the name but no other leads..and it's not a very popular name.. maybe someone else can decipher it differently than the census listings online did.. it is for Almina Langus in the census record 1880 Hanover, Chautauqua, NY she is living with Benjamin Palmer states she is his sister and she has a daughter it says Cosa b. 1880. Any other tips or just plain anything would help.. trying to get somewhere in a round about way but hoping it will help! Thanks Tammy jtreynolds@verizon.net

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Adams Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/SRB.2ACE/12145 Message Board Post: Hello, I am trying to connect Joseph W. Adams with his parents and siblings. I know that he was born in Forestville, October 30, 1846, and found a Joseph in the 1860 Census. Can anyone help me make sure this is the correct family?? Found: James Adams - age 50 - born Ireland Harriet - 51 - Ireland James - 22 - Ireland Joseph - 14 - New York Harriet - 13 - New York William - 11 - New York I would appreciate any help. Thanks. -Matt De Witt ccwalker_uwp@yahoo.com

Hi Bill - is Nolf her maiden name or married name? Have you checked any of the census? Nancy in upstate NY

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Grisanti, Philbrick Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/SRB.2ACE/12024.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi Jack, Virginia was married to my half brother Darwin Philbrick, they had no children, Darwin was a twin to Dorothy, and she still lives on water street in Forestville NY, Dorothy is married to Virginia;s brother Cristy, Please email me I am in England until Dec. 13 Sue