<< I think I contacted you about the Orman name a while ago. There were three marriages between the Babcocks and Ormans in Livingston Co. - My grandmother was an Orman, b. in Kent Co., England. >> I remember your contacting me. I just didn't remember your email address. My husband's ancestors were from Ireland and we didn't have a match, at least as far back as we had traced. Pat ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.