Hello, Cayuga list: I have a picture of a baby that is unidentified. On the back of the picture, in my mother's handwriting, are the words "Grandpa Bishop." This is ambiguous as that could mean the picture is of either my father, Clifford E. Bishop OR my paternal grandfather. If it is a picture of my father she would be labeling it as if she were talking to her grandchildren which seems highly unlikely. I have other pictures in which my paternal grandfather, William Albert Bishop, is referred to in labeling as "Grandpa Bishop." If it is the case that the picture is of William, the picture would have been taken about June of 1873 as William was born in Auburn in August of 1872. The cardboard mounting has the following printed on it: H. R. Luidsley (I believe), No. 109 Genesee Street, Auburn, NY, over Sagar's Drug Store. Can anyone help me date this picture? I am thinking you in advance for your time and caring. Rita Bishop Kautz, Attica, NY ([email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) )

Hi Kaitlyn, There are several approaches to this. The first that I would take is to examine carefully the size and type of photo. Just the color (or absense) of any borders can give you a general idea when it might have been taken. I use the following website as a general reference: http://www.classyimage.com/dating.htm (also see http://www.acay.com.au/~gsm/photo-dates.html) Another approach is to find out when the photographer was in business. I'm not the right person to ask about Auburn businesses, but one source, the 1900 Auburn, NY Directory at the Cayuga NYGenWeb site has "Amos Underwood et. al." at 109 Genessee St. I did a cursory search and couldn't find Luidsley or Sager on the website. I also looked in Child's 1867-68 Gazeteer. Finally, the style of clothing and hair can give away the general date range. Unfortunately I don't have any particular resources handy for this. Perhaps someone else can share their tips. Roger Phillips ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 12:19 PM Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Help in dating a photograph, if possible > Hello, Cayuga list: > > I have a picture of a baby that is unidentified. On the back of the > picture, in my mother's handwriting, are the words "Grandpa Bishop." > This is > ambiguous as that could mean the picture is of either my father, Clifford > E. > Bishop OR my paternal grandfather. If it is a picture of my father she > would be > labeling it as if she were talking to her grandchildren which seems > highly > unlikely. I have other pictures in which my paternal grandfather, > William > Albert Bishop, is referred to in labeling as "Grandpa Bishop." If it is > the > case that the picture is of William, the picture would have been taken > about > June of 1873 as William was born in Auburn in August of 1872. The > cardboard > mounting has the following printed on it: > > H. R. Luidsley (I believe), No. 109 Genesee Street, Auburn, NY, over > Sagar's Drug Store. > > Can anyone help me date this picture? I am thinking you in advance > for > your time and caring. > > Rita Bishop Kautz, Attica, NY ([email protected]_ > (mailto:[email protected]) ) > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Unsubscribe from NYCayuga-L by sending a message > to [email protected] (or NYCayuga-D-request.com if you > receive the digest) with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Dear listers If anyone would like information on dating old photographs I can send a PDF file entitled "Photography as a Tool in Genealogy" to whomever wants one. I found it on a photography site a few years ago but it look like they've removed it now. This file explains the difference between ambrotypes, tin types, etc. and includes original price, the date range that they were produced, how they were packaged, etc. etc., and TONS of other info that would help a person decide just what kind of picture they have. Because of this file, I was able to solve the mystery of why I had a cardboard-backed photo of a 80 year old ancestress who died in 1855! Turns out it is a rare Calotype, which are only found now in museums. They were produced from 1845-1855 (approx). The problem with them is that the image faded quickly and now most images are only ghostly shadows of the original. I scanned it and ran it through photoshop elements, which worked wonders to bring back a lot of the details of the original. If anyone would like a copy of this file, please let me know and I will send it to them. Judy Richard & Judy Landauer [email protected] AIM: judylandauer

Thanks so much for the offer. Please, do send me the PDF file on dating old photographs. Sherlene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judy Landauer" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:19 AM Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Dating old photos > Dear listers > > If anyone would like information on dating old photographs I can send a > PDF file entitled "Photography as a Tool in Genealogy" to whomever wants > one. I found it on a photography site a few years ago but it look like > they've removed it now. This file explains the difference between > ambrotypes, tin types, etc. and includes original price, the date range > that they were produced, how they were packaged, etc. etc., and TONS of > other info that would help a person decide just what kind of picture they > have. > > Because of this file, I was able to solve the mystery of why I had a > cardboard-backed photo of a 80 year old ancestress who died in 1855! > Turns out it is a rare Calotype, which are only found now in museums. > They were produced from 1845-1855 (approx). The problem with them is that > the image faded quickly and now most images are only ghostly shadows of > the original. I scanned it and ran it through photoshop elements, which > worked wonders to bring back a lot of the details of the original. > > If anyone would like a copy of this file, please let me know and I will > send it to them. > > Judy > > > Richard & Judy Landauer > [email protected] > AIM: judylandauer > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Have you visited the NYGenWeb project home page lately? > http://www.rootsweb.com/~nygenweb > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > >

Hi Judy, I also would love to have a copy when you have time (no hurry). Thank you so much. Bonnie Hartmann Laguna Beach, CA