I'm looking for the parents and siblings of my ggg-grandfather, Jacob J. DEBAR, b. 22 May 1781 NY and d. 9 Dec 1860 in Livingston County MI. He m. Sally BRAFORD, b. 5 Jul 1784 in Berkshire County MA, d/o Robert BRAFORD and Sarah CORNISH, in Cayuga County about 1803. Jacob served in the War of 1812. Jacob and Sally had nine children between 1804 and 1829, all b. in NY and all moved to MI; the first three were b. in Cayuga County, the last one was b. at Sodus in Wayne County, and I'm not sure about the ones in between: Mary m. 1824 Robert IRLAND, s/o William and Jane; Elizabeth m. 1827 David IRLAND, s/o Robert and Mary; Jacob Braford DEBAR m. Martha BRATTON; Chloe m. Sands LIBBY; Emily m. ~1834 David SNOW; Azuba m. 1839 MI Francis PEASE, s/o Urbane and Judith (Francis Pease was b. 1817 Homer, Cayuga County); Sylva; Alma; Harriet. (I have information on these families.) I've been told that Jacob's father was John DEBAR, but I don't know the source of this and can't find any Debars on the 1790 census. There was a John A. DEBARR in Cayuga County in 1830 and 1840; he was b. 1770-1780 and had 10 kids under 20 in 1830. John A. Debarr was about the same age as Jacob J. Debar. Were they brothers or cousins? Does anyone know about these Debar/Debarr families? There are other DEBARs in Cayuga County on the censuses. 1840 -- Cato, Alonzo DEBAR; moved to Michigan bef 1850 1840 -- Sterling, Anna DEBAR with three little girls under 10 1850 -- at Niles, Abraham (age 26) and Amy (age 21) DEBAR, with Orpha Ann Debar (age 3) and Lucinda Randall (age 11) There were also DEBARs in Franklin County and St. Lawrence County. There was a Joanna DEBAR (1809-1839) m. James BIGELOW; they lived at Wolcott in Wayne County. The DEBAR name is so rare that they were probably all related, but I haven't been able to find the connections or a clue where they came from. Any leads will be appreciated. Regards, Joanna (Debar) Ashmun Redmond, Washington jmashmun@halcyon.com