I am new to this list but in checking the archives it does not appear there has been many posts regarding this family. This is what I have put together. It needs more work but this is a start. CRAMER FAMILY DESCENDANTS OF PETER AND EUNICE CRAMER OF RUTLAND COUNTY, VERMONT Sophrania Cramer was the daughter of Peter and Eunice of Rutland County Vermont. Peter is first referenced in the History of Fair Haven, Vermont along with Henry Cramer, Jr. in West Haven, Rutland County Vermont. They were signers of a petition in 1793 protesting the separation of Fair Haven into two townships. The only earlier references to the Cramer family in Rutland county appears in the History of Fair Haven, Vermont, page 49 which states that John and Henry Cramer came in 1783 to Rutland County Vermont from Woodbury, (Litchfield County) CT. Also in 1783 a John Howe arrived also from Woodbury. There may be a connection between these two families as this John Howe may have been a descendant of Epentus Howe who married Elizabeth Cramer. Several of Epentus Howe's descendants settled in Cayuga County, New York, Chautauqua County, and Erie County (New Amsterdam, now Buffalo). As of this date, I have not had the opportunity to search estate or land records in Rutland County. Peter was born about 1775 (undoubtedly in Woodbury, Connecticut). He married about 1799 Eunice. Eunice's parents have not been identified. Peter lived at Benson in Rutland County, Vermont where he appears in the 1800 and 1810 federal census. By 1812 he had moved his family to Cato Township, Cayuga County New York where he appeared in 1820. He apparently died sometime between 1820 when his youngest son was born and 1830 when the federal census was taken. By 1850 Eunice had married Nathan Robinson and was living in Victory Township, Cayuga with her new husband and her youngest son, William. Peter and Eunice were the parents of nine children: Chauncey Cramer, born about 1800. Chauncey lived his entire life in Cayuga County. He and his wife Mary were the parents of 9 children. They left a large number of descendants in Cayuga County. Handy Cramer, the second son was born about 1803. Handy was the first of the sons to leave Cayuga and moved to Chautauqua County, New York, where he first appears on the 1830 census in Hanover Township. He married his wife Mary sometime shortly before 1830. He remained in Chautauqua County until his death in 1881 at the Alms House in Dewittville. It is unknown where he was buried. As of this date, I have been unable to determine whether or not he had any children. Since we can find him and his wife in every census between 1830 and 1880 it is unlikely they had children. His widow is buried in Panama Union Cemetery. Of the Cramers buried in this Cemetery, only one remains unidentified, John H. Herman Cramer, (Heman) born about 1805. Herman married Clarissa Coleman sometime before 1830. She was the daughter of Thomas Coleman and Salome de Wolfe. They had at least three children by the time the 1840 census was taken. These children have not been identified. They also had a daughter, Lucretia born in 1840 who appears in subsequent census records. He also was in Chautauqua County by 1840. His wife Clarissa died in October of 1853 and is buried at Panama Union Cemetery. It is unclear what happened to Herman following her death. No subsequent records for him have been found. Elias Cramer, b. 16 May 1805. Elias married Anna Malissa (Mellisa) Polley daughter of Hiram Polley and sister of Elijah Polley who was the husband of his sister, Sophrania. These two families remained close neighbors throughout their lives. Elias and Melissa stayed in Cayuga County until sometime after 1840. They appear in both the 1830 and 1840 census in Cayuga County. They had two children, Fidela Cramer b. 1831 and Theodore Smith Cramer (usually called Smith Cramer) b. 24 May 1832. By 1850 this family had also moved to Chautauqua and were residing in Harmony Township. Elias died 20 July 1861 and is buried in the Panama Union Cemetery. Sophronia Cramer b. 17 Oct 1808, Vermont. Sophronia married Elijah S. Polly the son of Hiram Polley and Anna Smith (Anna's parents names are unclear). They were the parents of 11 children: George H., Jane, Harvey (J.H.), John C., Brewer D., Ann, Emeline, Susy, Eunice, Eugene, and Ella. Sophronia died on 8 June 1895. Daughter Eunice, married Charles Albert Lewis who descends from the Lewis, Button, and Glass families of Harmony township and moved to Saginaw County, Michigan where her descendants still reside. (My husband's ancestor.) Mina Cramer, b. 6 April 1812, Victory, Cayuga County, New York. She married Samuel Leonard Coleman, brother of Herman's wife. Further information on her family can be found at www.familysearch.com. Martha Cramer, b. 1815. Died 29 Dec. 1861. No further information on her family. William Cramer b. 1820. Appears on the 1850 census with his mother in the household of Nathan Robinson. Ancestors of Peter Cramer Henry Cramer is said to be the son of Adam Cramer and Miriam Cleveland of Litchfield County, Connecticut. The History of West Haven and the History of Fair Haven mention that Henry and John Cramer came from Woodbury Connecticut and settled in what is now West Haven, then Fair Haven Township, Rutland County Vermont in 1783. John Howe who may be a first cousin of Henry also came in the same year. John appears to be an adult son of Henry. Henry was probably also accompanied by two younger sons, Peter and Bishop. In 1790 we find three Cramers living in Fair Haven. Henry Cramer with 3 males 16 and over (Henry, Peter, Bishop) and 2 females. Henry Cramer, Jr. (1 male 16 and over, 4 females. John Cramer 1 male 16 & over, 1 male 1-15, 2 females. The enumerator for this census alphabetized the listing so we are unable to tell whether or not they were neighbors. Some researchers indicate that Henry Cramer, married both Joanna Curtiss and a lady named Bishop. This is a bit murky. Supposedly Henry married a Bishop daughter about 1757 and had three sons, Henry, John, & Bishop. To this the evidence indicates we need to add Peter. He then married Joanna Curtiss on 5 Dec 1773 in Woodbury and had daughter Martha. Some research gives his marriage to Joanna as 5 Dec 1753 which would make her his first wife and since she didn't die until July 1816 would indicate she was probably his only wife. To date, I have found no evidence that there was a marriage to a Bishop. There were a number of Bishop families in Rutland County but not in Fair Haven. Perhaps someone can shed more light on this. I have not had access to vital, probate, or land records. Can anyone shed any light on this. Can anyone add to or correct any of this information Karen