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-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Wells School Tennis Courts Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:19:26 -0400 From: To: Bill Hecht <> References: < Bill, Picture taken where Wallcourt school building is now located and north of Taylor House. The VanDyne home (current owners and straight up Lafayette St) is in the background. Tennis court was part of the Goldsmith School. Wallcourt building was built about 1910. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hecht" <wsh6@cornell.edu> To: <undisclosed-recipients:> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 2:01 PM Subject: Wells School Tennis Courts Where were these located http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20725small.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20725.jpg

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I am new to this list but in checking the archives it does not appear there has been many posts regarding this family. This is what I have put together. It needs more work but this is a start. CRAMER FAMILY DESCENDANTS OF PETER AND EUNICE CRAMER OF RUTLAND COUNTY, VERMONT Sophrania Cramer was the daughter of Peter and Eunice of Rutland County Vermont. Peter is first referenced in the History of Fair Haven, Vermont along with Henry Cramer, Jr. in West Haven, Rutland County Vermont. They were signers of a petition in 1793 protesting the separation of Fair Haven into two townships. The only earlier references to the Cramer family in Rutland county appears in the History of Fair Haven, Vermont, page 49 which states that John and Henry Cramer came in 1783 to Rutland County Vermont from Woodbury, (Litchfield County) CT. Also in 1783 a John Howe arrived also from Woodbury. There may be a connection between these two families as this John Howe may have been a descendant of Epentus Howe who married Elizabeth Cramer. Several of Epentus Howe's descendants settled in Cayuga County, New York, Chautauqua County, and Erie County (New Amsterdam, now Buffalo). As of this date, I have not had the opportunity to search estate or land records in Rutland County. Peter was born about 1775 (undoubtedly in Woodbury, Connecticut). He married about 1799 Eunice. Eunice's parents have not been identified. Peter lived at Benson in Rutland County, Vermont where he appears in the 1800 and 1810 federal census. By 1812 he had moved his family to Cato Township, Cayuga County New York where he appeared in 1820. He apparently died sometime between 1820 when his youngest son was born and 1830 when the federal census was taken. By 1850 Eunice had married Nathan Robinson and was living in Victory Township, Cayuga with her new husband and her youngest son, William. Peter and Eunice were the parents of nine children: Chauncey Cramer, born about 1800. Chauncey lived his entire life in Cayuga County. He and his wife Mary were the parents of 9 children. They left a large number of descendants in Cayuga County. Handy Cramer, the second son was born about 1803. Handy was the first of the sons to leave Cayuga and moved to Chautauqua County, New York, where he first appears on the 1830 census in Hanover Township. He married his wife Mary sometime shortly before 1830. He remained in Chautauqua County until his death in 1881 at the Alms House in Dewittville. It is unknown where he was buried. As of this date, I have been unable to determine whether or not he had any children. Since we can find him and his wife in every census between 1830 and 1880 it is unlikely they had children. His widow is buried in Panama Union Cemetery. Of the Cramers buried in this Cemetery, only one remains unidentified, John H. Herman Cramer, (Heman) born about 1805. Herman married Clarissa Coleman sometime before 1830. She was the daughter of Thomas Coleman and Salome de Wolfe. They had at least three children by the time the 1840 census was taken. These children have not been identified. They also had a daughter, Lucretia born in 1840 who appears in subsequent census records. He also was in Chautauqua County by 1840. His wife Clarissa died in October of 1853 and is buried at Panama Union Cemetery. It is unclear what happened to Herman following her death. No subsequent records for him have been found. Elias Cramer, b. 16 May 1805. Elias married Anna Malissa (Mellisa) Polley daughter of Hiram Polley and sister of Elijah Polley who was the husband of his sister, Sophrania. These two families remained close neighbors throughout their lives. Elias and Melissa stayed in Cayuga County until sometime after 1840. They appear in both the 1830 and 1840 census in Cayuga County. They had two children, Fidela Cramer b. 1831 and Theodore Smith Cramer (usually called Smith Cramer) b. 24 May 1832. By 1850 this family had also moved to Chautauqua and were residing in Harmony Township. Elias died 20 July 1861 and is buried in the Panama Union Cemetery. Sophronia Cramer b. 17 Oct 1808, Vermont. Sophronia married Elijah S. Polly the son of Hiram Polley and Anna Smith (Anna's parents names are unclear). They were the parents of 11 children: George H., Jane, Harvey (J.H.), John C., Brewer D., Ann, Emeline, Susy, Eunice, Eugene, and Ella. Sophronia died on 8 June 1895. Daughter Eunice, married Charles Albert Lewis who descends from the Lewis, Button, and Glass families of Harmony township and moved to Saginaw County, Michigan where her descendants still reside. (My husband's ancestor.) Mina Cramer, b. 6 April 1812, Victory, Cayuga County, New York. She married Samuel Leonard Coleman, brother of Herman's wife. Further information on her family can be found at www.familysearch.com. Martha Cramer, b. 1815. Died 29 Dec. 1861. No further information on her family. William Cramer b. 1820. Appears on the 1850 census with his mother in the household of Nathan Robinson. Ancestors of Peter Cramer Henry Cramer is said to be the son of Adam Cramer and Miriam Cleveland of Litchfield County, Connecticut. The History of West Haven and the History of Fair Haven mention that Henry and John Cramer came from Woodbury Connecticut and settled in what is now West Haven, then Fair Haven Township, Rutland County Vermont in 1783. John Howe who may be a first cousin of Henry also came in the same year. John appears to be an adult son of Henry. Henry was probably also accompanied by two younger sons, Peter and Bishop. In 1790 we find three Cramers living in Fair Haven. Henry Cramer with 3 males 16 and over (Henry, Peter, Bishop) and 2 females. Henry Cramer, Jr. (1 male 16 and over, 4 females. John Cramer 1 male 16 & over, 1 male 1-15, 2 females. The enumerator for this census alphabetized the listing so we are unable to tell whether or not they were neighbors. Some researchers indicate that Henry Cramer, married both Joanna Curtiss and a lady named Bishop. This is a bit murky. Supposedly Henry married a Bishop daughter about 1757 and had three sons, Henry, John, & Bishop. To this the evidence indicates we need to add Peter. He then married Joanna Curtiss on 5 Dec 1773 in Woodbury and had daughter Martha. Some research gives his marriage to Joanna as 5 Dec 1753 which would make her his first wife and since she didn't die until July 1816 would indicate she was probably his only wife. To date, I have found no evidence that there was a marriage to a Bishop. There were a number of Bishop families in Rutland County but not in Fair Haven. Perhaps someone can shed more light on this. I have not had access to vital, probate, or land records. Can anyone shed any light on this. Can anyone add to or correct any of this information Karen

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errosion is still going on big time here. The farmers aim for no more than 2-3 tons per acre per year lost. I have been home all summer and have not yet made it out to the Midwest. Hopefully this fall all the best bill Kathleen wrote: >Bill. Breathtaking photos. > >The library was able to get the book on the Fingers Lakes geology. It came >from the U of Arkansas library. I was in the process of moving the month of >June and wasn't able to study very much of it. It is my opinion that I >would have to see the area and comprehend the lay of the land in order to >envision the changes made by the glaciers. Do you believe erosion is still >taking place as the book said (thirty years ago) and if so, is the effect >even more spectacular? I say that because erosion in Nebraska is not a good >thing--the creeks deepen, are less accessible, and the best Nebraska soil >makes up the Mississippi delta. > >I live in an area of Missouri that I imagine must be a little like central >NY in that there are many trees, rolling hills, bluffs and antebellum homes. >Where the Nebraska prairie was once intersected with roads squarely girding >the sections of land, Missouri roads in this area are thrown down like >ribbons. Although I don't see it, my son says this area is a bowl in the >land--claustrophobic for him (and I have no desire to learn where that trait >originates)--and he prefers the level plains and open skies. > >Did get take the trip across Nebraska this summer and what did you think of >it? > >Kathleen > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Bill Hecht" <wsh6@cornell.edu> >To: "CAYUGA Message Board" <NYCayuga@rootsweb.com>; "CENTRAL NY Message >Board" <NY-CENTRA@rootsweb.com>; "TOMPKINS CO. LISTSERVE" ><NYTOMPKI@rootsweb.com>; "Eschenbrenner,Donna (Dewitt Historical)" ><archives@TheHistoryCenter.net> >Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 1:12 PM >Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Pulpit Falls -what creek ? > > > > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705crop.jpg > > >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705small.jpg > > >>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705.jpg >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> >> >NYCAYUGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >in the subject and the body of the message > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCAYUGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

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Here is my Brown line in Cayuga County, NY. Town Of Aurelius - Cayuga County, NY 1855 New York State Census Election District #1 & 2 Surname Section "B" 2/48 Brown David 40 m Penn m 10 shoe maker 2/171 Brown George 20 m domestic Sckenich 2/12 2/48 Brown Henry P. 9 m child Cayuga 9 2/141 Brown Joseph m border Germany 2/12 2/48 Brown Marlott 39 f wife Cayuga m 10 2/233 Brown Pardon 51 m domestic Conn 22 carpenter 2/48 Brown Samuel P. 7 m child Cayuga 7 2/48 Brown Sevellon A. 11 m child Tomkins 10 2/48 Brown Shalott A. 3 f child Cayuga 3 http://www.rootsweb.com/~nycayuga/census/1855/aurelius/aur1855b.htm Since you have Elijah being born in 1823, I don't think this is a match. On 7/14/07, kenneth brown <kbrown3869@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > I am trying to find information on a Joseph Brown who was married to a > Clarissa. they had a son Elijah Barton Brown who was born in 1823. After > this they seemed to have moved to Mich as this is where I have Elijah > marrying any one know of this family? Ken Brown > > >

Bill. Breathtaking photos. The library was able to get the book on the Fingers Lakes geology. It came from the U of Arkansas library. I was in the process of moving the month of June and wasn't able to study very much of it. It is my opinion that I would have to see the area and comprehend the lay of the land in order to envision the changes made by the glaciers. Do you believe erosion is still taking place as the book said (thirty years ago) and if so, is the effect even more spectacular? I say that because erosion in Nebraska is not a good thing--the creeks deepen, are less accessible, and the best Nebraska soil makes up the Mississippi delta. I live in an area of Missouri that I imagine must be a little like central NY in that there are many trees, rolling hills, bluffs and antebellum homes. Where the Nebraska prairie was once intersected with roads squarely girding the sections of land, Missouri roads in this area are thrown down like ribbons. Although I don't see it, my son says this area is a bowl in the land--claustrophobic for him (and I have no desire to learn where that trait originates)--and he prefers the level plains and open skies. Did get take the trip across Nebraska this summer and what did you think of it? Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hecht" <wsh6@cornell.edu> To: "CAYUGA Message Board" <NYCayuga@rootsweb.com>; "CENTRAL NY Message Board" <NY-CENTRA@rootsweb.com>; "TOMPKINS CO. LISTSERVE" <NYTOMPKI@rootsweb.com>; "Eschenbrenner,Donna (Dewitt Historical)" <archives@TheHistoryCenter.net> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Pulpit Falls -what creek ? > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705crop.jpg > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705small.jpg > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures207/20705.jpg > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to NYCAYUGA-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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I am trying to find information on a Joseph Brown who was married to a Clarissa. they had a son Elijah Barton Brown who was born in 1823. After this they seemed to have moved to Mich as this is where I have Elijah marrying any one know of this family? Ken Brown

it looks like you are trying to cancel your subscription. If you are trying to correct a document you must copy the text and paste it into a new email to have it available for editing. Then you can edit and send. Paulette

Rich...are you typing in the text box? and pressing "send"? Paulette