Bill, Thank you for all your wonderful work on the photographs of the local area. I have traveled frequently to Auburn, NY on Genealogy Trips using: 1. The Court House Records ex. the City Directories, indexes, grave diagrams, files, etc. 2. We visited the early Catholic Cemetery on State Street and St. Joseph Cemetery Office helped me locate family members' graves: O'Connor & Byrnes 3. The History Room in the Seemore Library (open Thursdays then), has been visited. There I found the Irish Famine Immigrants Shiplists, newspapers, etc. FAMILY OF: Mary Lenahan (November 17, 1793 - February 15, 1881) and Peter O'Connor (Abt. 1780- Bef. June 13, 1865) This Family came from Tralee, County Kerry, Ireland to Cayuga County before 1860. They stayed pretty much in the local area. FAMILY OF THEIR SON: Anne Byrnes (June 4, 1822 - November 23, 1896) and Michael O'Connor (September 1825 - May 20, 1908) I've deeply appreciated the Cayuga County Website with its Cemetery Lists, Church Records, Auburn & Town Census, etc. Without them I would never have ventured into doing Genealogy. Now I try to fill in missing pieces on Vacations in the area. Thank you, Sister Susan Marie O'Connor, CSJ Albany, NY area about 3 hours away -----Original Message----- From: Bill Hecht [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:18 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [NYCAYUGA] Family History Travel To Cayuga County and Central NY

Dear Bill, What a great idea! It would be like a working genealogy "reunion" of various families -- with a chance to exchange research with folks whose groups yours married into, etc. I like it. Take a look at the website for the "Berne History Project" http://www.bernehistory.org This is an award-winning, cooperative effort by one Albany County town. It includes building a town-wide family tree (see "Berne Genealogy") and a recurring summer weekend event called "Berne Heritage Days." A model, already up and running, for something along the lines you are imagining. The Berne events are not so much geared for working research days, though, as for shared exhibitions, open houses, special tours etc. So what you're considering for Cayuga has different dimensions -- that I like. Regards, Susan (Van Wie) Kastan, New York City Researching VAN WIE and related families. FYI no-one of my direct line was in Cayuga though collateral lines were. I would still be interested though! Also my paternal grandmother was baptized in Auburn on November 30, 1887. Her parents traveled from Hazleton, Luzerne Co, Penna for the occasion. She was christened by Dr. William Henry Hubbard, a star preacher of the day, as I understand it. Dr. Hubbard, pastor of the First Presbyterian Church, was also the inventor of "Systematic Beneficence," i.e., the weekly church-offering envelope. I think the Presbyterian printing operation is to this day known as the Hubbard Press? (Anyone with info, do please share.) Bill Hecht <[email protected]> wrote: >Someone suggested a week where one could travel to Cayuga County and do >research. >Now this sounds like a great idea ! >What would all of you out there want and expect when you got here? > >1-Could a bunch of rooms be booked at a local motel bee reserved so you >could get good rates? >2-Coupons for discount meals at certain restaurants? >3-Extended hours at the historical societies, museums and historians office? >4-Would you want County Records open on the weekend (unlikely) or could >you do your research during their normal hours? >5-Cemetery tours? >6- Would you want extended hours at town and village offices? > >bill hecht __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp

Someone suggested a week where one could travel to Cayuga County and do research. Now this sounds like a great idea ! What would all of you out there want and expect when you got here? 1-Could a bunch of rooms be booked at a local motel bee reserved so you could get good rates? 2-Coupons for discount meals at certain restaurants? 3-Extended hours at the historical societies, museums and historians office? 4-Would you want County Records open on the weekend (unlikely) or could you do your research during their normal hours? 5-Cemetery tours? 6- Would you want extended hours at town and village offices? bill hecht

Dear Cayuga listers, I am new to your list, but do receive other states lists. My Brown family is associated with the Arnold, Sweet, VanBlaricum, Christian families of Cayuga County, NY. I have collected MUCH data & am willing to share. My cousins & I are looking for siblings of Charles Brown born ca 1774 in "Conn" per his 1860 Owasco, NY census. Charles & Ann (Christian) Brown had 11 children. We know all children & their spouses & children. Many of the sons & grandsons moved to Steuben Co., IN by 1870's. I have the Christian family history. Charles Brown is my gg grandfather & his son, Harmon Gilson Brown, b. Feb. 10th, 1830 in Mexico, Oswego Co., NY is my g grandfather, he was married 3 times to women who were born in Cayuga County: Harmon's wives: 1st: Harriet Louis Vanblaricum (have her hx) from ca 1851-1865, when she died while he was away in the "Rebellion". NY 16th HA. His brother, Calvin Brown m. Mary VanBlaricum. Yes, I have seen the Biographical Review, plus have much more hx. on VanBlaricum's. 2. Margaret Melissa Tanner m. in Nov. 1867. I have some Tanner hx, her parents, gparents & siblings. She lived in Weedsport prior to her marriage. Then they moved to Steuben Co., IN. She died in Dec. 1878. 3. Carrie M. Wallin b. 1847 in Cayuga Co. to Joseph & Susannah (Cook) Wallin, she married him in 1879 in MI at home of Calvin & Mary (VB) Brown. Her sister, Mary Ann Wallin m. Horace John Christian. I have their hx. I am willing to share all hx. I know there must be a connection somewhere of my Charles Brown to another Brown family. We believe his father's name is "John" or Jonathan Brown, but family in the 1930's confused hx of John Christian for John Brown. Sincerely, Marilyn LeVeque [email protected]

Robert Akin wrote: >Hi, Bill. I have traveled to Cayuga County three times over the past few years to do genealogy research about Port Byron and Throopsville. I certainly hope to return at some point since, as you point out, there is no substitute for on-site research. > >Bill Hecht <[email protected]> wrote: >I would be interested in knowing how many out there have traveled to >Cayuga County or are planning a trip to Cayuga County to research their >family history. Such information would be usefull in showing the powers >that be, that "in spite" of the perception that the internet 'reduces' >the need to actually come to a place, that it stimulates the desire to >return to ones roots and to do on site research. > >It is my contention that the internet fosters the sharing of data and >the desire to stay in contact with the place you are from and the people >who still live there. > >That the internet is a tool for bringing people together. >That it can promote tourism. > >Many can no longer travel due to distance and health constraints. Sites >such as the Cayuga County GenWeb site, the County Historians site and >the message lists allow those who can no longer travel to SHARE their >knowledge with all. Knowledge that is normally lost in time. Sharing >through the internet should not be looked upon as a "Loss in Revenue" >but as an opportunity to save and record the history of our area the is >scattered to the four corners of the globe. > >I look forward to hearing of your plans and previous trips to Cayuga >County and experiences here. > >Sincerely > >Bill Hecht > > >==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== >Going on vacation? Unsubscribe from NYCayuga-L by sending a message >to [email protected] (or NYCayuga-D-request.com if you >receive the digest) with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > >==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== >Going on vacation? Unsubscribe from NYCayuga-L by sending a message >to [email protected] (or NYCayuga-D-request.com if you >receive the digest) with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) > >============================== >Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > Hi Bill and all, Please keep up the wonderful work. I live in Wisconsin, researching on the web is right now, my only option regarding Cayuga Co. However, my dream vacation would be a visit to Cayuga Co, spending several weeks just visiting the places that I am researching, to walk the same roads that my ancestors once traveled............. Internet research really does stimulate and helps you keep in touch with the places that one day you might visit. It whetts the appetite, and is a great tool for tourism. just my two cents worth tracy reinhardt

I would travel any day rather than the internet. But $ constrains. But this way- doing back bround work on the internet- I'll know better just where to go and what to look for when I do come there. I do like the large formats of images you've done for us - it is great! I'm not yet shure where to look for in the inages for my peoples area as of yet. I believe it was some place like IRA or Cato but I've been saving the images for later study. blocked @1820 Erastus Graves Cayuga Co. happy hunting ed graves jr > Maybe I should also ask the question: > > How many out there DO NOT travel to Cayuga County, the County Offices, or > to Museums here because "everything" is on the web? > > and while I am asking > > How many would rather see images on the web in enlarged formats > rather than > small, one size images in a book ? > > I contend that there is a place for both and that there is no way the > pictures will ever be published in a paper format so that people can see > the enlarged images. Who is ever going to publish a 40-50 inch print of a > picture ? > The only way to see these "pictures-in-pictures", that huge web > enlargement provide, is on the web. Thus; to not publish on the web is to > keep from the public their heritage. The best way to see the detail in old > maps and images is on the web through enlargements. Pictures and maps we > have looked at for years reveal new information when enlarged.

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My husband and I were in Cayuga County several years ago. We didn't have much time, but we did go to the county office where they have maps, and the gentlemen there was very helpful. We also drove south of Auburn to the farm on Silver Street where my husband's father, James W. W. WALKER Jr., and grandparents, Drs. James W. W. WALKER, Sr., and Luli Belle Richens WALKER lived. They also had a houses at various times on William Street, Genesee Street and South Street. Since then I have found other family members by the name of BUNDY. My husband's great-grandmother, Prudence BUNDY, was the sister of Willard Legrand BUNDY, who invented the time recording clock, and Harlow E. BUNDY, who marketed the clock. I understand that once of Willard's clocks is in the museum in Auburn and I would love to go to Cayuga County again and see it, as well as do other research. I don't believe that a person can sit at home and get all their information from the internet. There's nothing like visiting the place where you are researching. If we travel to Cayuga County again we would definately stay overnight at least one night. Someday... Cindy in NC > > > I would be interested in knowing how many out there have traveled to > Cayuga County or are planning a trip to Cayuga County to research their > family history. Such information would be usefull in showing the powers > that be, that "in spite" of the perception that the internet 'reduces' > the need to actually come to a place, that it stimulates the desire to > return to ones roots and to do on site research. > > It is my contention that the internet fosters the sharing of data and > the desire to stay in contact with the place you are from and the people > who still live there. > > That the internet is a tool for bringing people together. > That it can promote tourism. > > Many can no longer travel due to distance and health constraints. Sites > such as the Cayuga County GenWeb site, the County Historians site and > the message lists allow those who can no longer travel to SHARE their > knowledge with all. Knowledge that is normally lost in time. Sharing > through the internet should not be looked upon as a "Loss in Revenue" > but as an opportunity to save and record the history of our area the is > scattered to the four corners of the globe. > > I look forward to hearing of your plans and previous trips to Cayuga > County and experiences here. > > Sincerely > > Bill Hecht > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Unsubscribe from NYCayuga-L by sending a message > to [email protected] (or NYCayuga-D-request.com if you > receive the digest) with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn > more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Bill- I'll reply to this. I have "traveled" to Cayuga County in the past to do research. I have visited many of the cemeteries and criss-crossed the country roads countless times. I have visited the Historian's Office, Seymour Library and Owasco-Cayuga Lakes Historical Society a few times. The last three very little, because of the hours they are open, or more precisely those they are not. It is hard to find them open, particularly on a weekend and I don't like to take off a day from work just to go there. I was once told at Seymour that nobody would ever research genealogy for more than a couple hours at a time, that's why they're open such short hours!! I'm afraid though, that my trips won't do much for the economy of Cayuga County. I do not stay in a motel, but return home that night. I may buy a lunch there I wouldn't have otherwise, but that's about it. I'm one of the fortunate few on this list that live nearby-- I live in Syracuse-- however, as I mentioned above, find the hours frustrating. I work full-time and go to school as well. The internet is a wonderful tool. One that I love and use greatly. However, it is just that. One tool in our genealogical toolbox. We need to keep reminding ourselves and others, particularly some of the historians and librarians that are dazzled by it's powers. Okay, I'm starting up on my soapbox, so will stop now. Nancy Ward [email protected] On Mar 3, 2005, at 9:17 AM, Bill Hecht wrote: > I would be interested in knowing how many out there have traveled to > Cayuga County or are planning a trip to Cayuga County to research > their family history. Such information would be usefull in showing > the powers that be, that "in spite" of the perception that the > internet 'reduces' the need to actually come to a place, that it > stimulates the desire to return to ones roots and to do on site > research. > > It is my contention that the internet fosters the sharing of data and > the desire to stay in contact with the place you are from and the > people who still live there. > > That the internet is a tool for bringing people together. > That it can promote tourism. > > Many can no longer travel due to distance and health constraints. > Sites such as the Cayuga County GenWeb site, the County Historians > site and the message lists allow those who can no longer travel to > SHARE their knowledge with all. Knowledge that is normally lost in > time. Sharing through the internet should not be looked upon as a > "Loss in Revenue" but as an opportunity to save and record the history > of our area the is scattered to the four corners of the globe. > > I look forward to hearing of your plans and previous trips to Cayuga > County and experiences here. > > Sincerely > > Bill Hecht > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Unsubscribe from NYCayuga-L by sending a message > to [email protected] (or NYCayuga-D-request.com if you > receive the digest) with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Last summer my sister and I made a trip to Cayuga County. My gggGrandfather, Charles Babcock and his family moved there from Columbia County in 1797. They first lived in Scipio. We visited Auburn, also where we visited the William H. Seward mansion, which was really fascinating. There is possibly a family connection to the Sewards. We visited the Rose Hill Mansion where we found the name of a Henrietta Babcock and a Joseph Strong carved under the eaves of the veranda. I haven't found exactly what family Henrietta (Babcock) Strong belonged to. From the Census it looks like her father's name was Alvin. The Babcocks first settled in MA, RI and CT in the 1600's. The Babcocks comprise a really large clan today and they are all related if you can trace back far enough. They migrated before and after the Revolutionary War to the East and West side of the Hudson River and then to Central NY and then out West. Laurien Babcock Fan

Hi: Read your letter with interest. I have a great deal of information about Clark's in Cayuga Co., and if you'd like to compare notes let me know. My family came primarily from Sempronius. Bill Clark ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [NYCAYUGA] Family History Travel To Cayuga County and Central NY > In my research of my own family, which is not easy even though I live > within > 4-6 hours of most of the places where my ancestors lived, have > 90-something > year old living relatives who remember a lot of the people, and have the > SC > Historical Society in my back yard with all of its manuscripts and > recorded > family histories, I still have had to travel to find some details. I > traveled > to visit our State Archives on more than one occasion and have made side > trips to little towns that I never would have visited otherwise in order > to look > for cemeteries and property and to read historical markers! We have a > tremendous amount of data on line for the area of SC where the majority > of my > family lived for the last 200 years or so, some since before the American > Revolution, and I still want to see for myself the places where my family > lived, walk > around and take my own pictures. I will most likely travel to Maryland > and > Massachusetts to visit the places some of my family lived back in the > 1600s > and also to see some Civil War prison camps. I firmly believe that > genealogical research stimulates travel to places significant to the > history of the > family. My husband is from Union Springs and until he saw my research of > my own > family, he was never that interested in his family history. He has > wanted > to take me to Union Springs to see where he grew up since we married, but > we > have been unable to make the trip so far. Now he wants to know about his > own > family! I have just started the research after much prodding of siblings > and cousins to try to determine just two generations back. Now when I > find one > of his ancestors, he wants to go see the cemetery where that person or > family is buried. I also wanted to thank you for posting the Civil War > enlistment > records for Springport. My husband thought it was neat that we found his > great grandfather's and other family members' records on line. That was > a > wonderful thing to actually see the document! It also helped me to > determine > that particular great grandfather's mother's maiden name and led me to > another > 200 years in of that family's history! PLEASE keep posting information > as > this helps those of us who live 1000 miles away to continue with research > and > YES, it DOES develop interest in tourism, especially the old pictures. > They > have made my husband remember things that he did growing up and want to > see his > home town again. > > Also, if you have any SHANK, CLARK, TRIPP, ALEXANDER, GILBERT, > CRISE/CRISSE > researchers, I would like to compare notes with them. > > Carla Padgett Clark (Mrs. David H Clark) > > > ==== NYCAYUGA Mailing List ==== > Going on vacation? Unsubscribe from NYCayuga-L by sending a message > to [email protected] (or NYCayuga-D-request.com if you > receive the digest) with just the word "unsubscribe" (no quotes) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

<< It reduces the need, but increases the desire. >> Very well said! Pat

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Well put!

No, my husband's stayed in Union Springs and did not arrive until 1800 from England. Don't know if yours are the same family or not.

Bill, I can't say how many people come to Cayuga County to do research, but I can sure testify about how many $$$ I've spent visiting other locales away from my home in Cayuga County. We've visited Civil War Battlefields where some ancestor fought only after finding records on the web. I've visited small towns, big cities, and tromped through obscure cemeteries in the US and Ireland based solely on some information that I've found on the Internet, not always in pursuit of records, but sometimes just to see a house or gravestone in person. Looking at maps just doesn't show you how two houses, apparently miles apart, were just a pasture away through back fields when two lovestuck teenagers were courting. Were it not for the internet, I would never have found information solid enough for me to invest the time and money to go see these places for myself, and I'm sure the same goes for the people who have traveled to Cayuga County for the same purposes. It's a shame that the tourism people don't promote the family history resources available and make that a big tourism selling point. With all the history that we have behind us in this county, it would sure get me to town a whole lot faster than a Bass Pro Shop! As for the size of the picture files, I couldn't agree more that priceless information is gained through the enlargements possible on there internet. My eyes often water from trying to read the faded details on those old maps and in just a click or two, every name and detail is crystal clear. My only big fear is that the repositories for the original hard copies of all the pictures and books will destroy the originals once they have been digitalized. A digital image is great, but there's a big responsibility that is passed along to subsequent archivists to keep the data in an up-to-date format as data storage media changes. Once an original is lost, it's lost forever.

Well Bill, I for one can't wait to go to Cayuga Co. I have a genealogist, Alice Warren in New York helping me with my research. Until she was able to find the farms and cemeteries of my ancestors I didn't see the need to go. Now, I can't wait to walk the ground my ancestors did. The internet has been of great value to me. I found my genealogist through the Cayuga Co. web site. Colleen Rowe

Hello, Several people wrote asking me for the pictures of the Cayuga Home for Children that I had. Bill has graciously uploaded some of them to his site. Some have been there for a few years, (black and white photos) and others are newer scans that I made from my grandfather's old slides. The color slides are mostly dated 1949, I think, and the photographs are probably from the same era, but a few years earlier. I have other slides that show many many children at various outings with the Children's Home. I would be glad to send jpg files to anyone who would like them. You can email me at [email protected] and I'll be glad to send them out. I also had a couple slides of the front and side stained glass windows on the old Disciples of Christ Church on Division Street and some of the Firemen at the station on Fulton St. down the street from the Children's Home. Bill has also uploaded some of them to his site as well Kathy. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures37/00003798.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures37/00003799.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures37/00003797.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures114/CHC.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures114/CHC2.jpg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures114/CHCHalloween.j pg http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures114/CHCSideYard.jp g http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures114/CHCThanksgivin g.JPG http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures114/CHCThanksgivin g2.JPG http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures114/DisciplesChris tChurchDivision..JPG http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures114/FirechiefNo2Ju ne1949.JPG http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures114/FiremenNo2June 1949.JPG http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~springport/pictures114/No2FiremenJune1949.JPG

Maybe I should also ask the question: How many out there DO NOT travel to Cayuga County, the County Offices, or to Museums here because "everything" is on the web? and while I am asking How many would rather see images on the web in enlarged formats rather than small, one size images in a book ? I contend that there is a place for both and that there is no way the pictures will ever be published in a paper format so that people can see the enlarged images. Who is ever going to publish a 40-50 inch print of a picture ? The only way to see these "pictures-in-pictures", that huge web enlargement provide, is on the web. Thus; to not publish on the web is to keep from the public their heritage. The best way to see the detail in old maps and images is on the web through enlargements. Pictures and maps we have looked at for years reveal new information when enlarged.